Obsession - the tears of my enemies.

That familiarity got worse Wednesday, when several other college programs closed the 2018 recruiting cycle stronger than the Wolverines, and Michigan dropped to No. 21 in the 247sports composite rankings on national signing day. Harbaugh’s four recruiting classes have now been ranked 37th, eighth, fifth and 21st by the 247sports composite.

His predecessor, Brady Hoke, followed the exact same pattern: a sluggish start after the coaching change (30th in 2011), followed by two big years (sixth and fourth), followed by a big fade (20th in 2014). The Wolverines also faded on the field, dropping to 5-7 in Hoke’s fourth year. He did not get a fifth.

Harbaugh’s on-field results also have been similar to Hoke’s. The Wolverines slipped from back-to-back 10-3 seasons to 8-5 in 2017. Harbaugh has won two more games than Hoke did through three seasons, but Hoke also finished higher than third in his division — twice, in fact

MattyFresh wrote:those guys can't catch a break

LooseGoose wrote:Jim Harbaugh is a big loser on national signing day

That familiarity got worse Wednesday, when several other college programs closed the 2018 recruiting cycle stronger than the Wolverines, and Michigan dropped to No. 21 in the 247sports composite rankings on national signing day. Harbaugh’s four recruiting classes have now been ranked 37th, eighth, fifth and 21st by the 247sports composite.

His predecessor, Brady Hoke, followed the exact same pattern: a sluggish start after the coaching change (30th in 2011), followed by two big years (sixth and fourth), followed by a big fade (20th in 2014). The Wolverines also faded on the field, dropping to 5-7 in Hoke’s fourth year. He did not get a fifth.

Harbaugh’s on-field results also have been similar to Hoke’s. The Wolverines slipped from back-to-back 10-3 seasons to 8-5 in 2017. Harbaugh has won two more games than Hoke did through three seasons, but Hoke also finished higher than third in his division — twice, in fact

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steveschneider wrote:Did we get a better class than them? It’s fucking hilarious to see their recruiting championship go down the toilet.

LooseGoose wrote:Jim Harbaugh is a big loser

tGreenWay wrote:

steveschneider wrote:Did we get a better class than them? It’s fucking hilarious to see their recruiting championship go down the toilet.

Oh no, as usual, they beat us in recruiting, which must drive them nuts, since it doesn’t translate into actual wins.

tGreenWay wrote:

steveschneider wrote:Did we get a better class than them? It’s fucking hilarious to see their recruiting championship go down the toilet.

Oh no, as usual, they beat us in recruiting, which must drive them nuts, since it doesn’t translate into actual wins.

steveschneider wrote:Did we get a better class than them? It’s fucking hilarious to see their recruiting championship go down the toilet.

InTenSity wrote:

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

No... yet we somehow have room to talk....while downplaying recruiting ranking.....#Sports

Its probably that whole winning on the field while not having any recruiting class ranked higher than theirs.

Hot takes!

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

steveschneider wrote:Did we get a better class than them? It’s fucking hilarious to see their recruiting championship go down the toilet.

No... yet we somehow have room to talk....while downplaying recruiting ranking.....#Sports

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

InTenSity wrote:
Its probably that whole winning on the field while not having any recruiting class ranked higher than theirs.

Hot takes!

So recruiting rankings don’t matter... unless Michigan doesn’t have a top 10 class ... then they do and should be laughed at.

#SportsLogic

steveschneider wrote:

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

No... yet we somehow have room to talk....while downplaying recruiting ranking.....#Sports

I have never given a shit about rankings. When the old board moved to 247 and it started to become a big recruiting board I looked up Michigans recruiting rankings, Notre Dames and the Wisconsins. Wisconsin was a much better football team at the time but had 2 and 3 star recruits...how could that be since they don't have great recruits? Right then I knew something about those sites was fishy. If those guys at the sites could actually rate talent they'd be scouts in the pros or at a University.

DWags wrote:

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

So recruiting rankings don’t matter... unless Michigan doesn’t have a top 10 class ... then they do and should be laughed at.

#SportsLogic

Jesus, isn't this titled "the tears of my enemies"?   Just start ta thread about the tears of Spartans.   They've always valued their top ten rankings.  Now they don't have them, after a fairly disapointing year.  

Don't be such a debbie downer.   Wait, forget it, do what you got to do.

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

InTenSity wrote:
Its probably that whole winning on the field while not having any recruiting class ranked higher than theirs.

Hot takes!

So recruiting rankings don’t matter... unless Michigan doesn’t have a top 10 class ... then they do and should be laughed at.

#SportsLogic

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

steveschneider wrote:

I have never given a shit about rankings. When the old board moved to 247 and it started to become a big recruiting board I looked up Michigans recruiting rankings, Notre Dames and the Wisconsins. Wisconsin was a much better football team at the time but had 2 and 3 star recruits...how could that be since they don't have great recruits? Right then I knew something about those sites was fishy. If those guys at the sites could actually rate talent they'd be scouts in the pros or at a University.

Yup it’s a $ grab. Oh so you’re telling me Clemson, Georgia, Alabama , and Ohio State along with all of the other traditional powers in football rich states have the best recruits? Can you also tell me water is wet for $9.99 a month? Thank you !!!

DWags wrote:

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

So recruiting rankings don’t matter... unless Michigan doesn’t have a top 10 class ... then they do and should be laughed at.

#SportsLogic

Jesus, isn't this titled "the tears of my enemies"?   Just start ta thread about the tears of Spartans.   They've always valued their top ten rankings.  Now they don't have them, after a fairly disapointing year.  

Don't be such a debbie downer.   Wait, forget it, do what you got to do.

MattyFresh wrote:NSIAP

http://picksixpreviews.com/how_to_win_in_recruiting.html
https://spartanavenue.com/2018/02/08/michigan-state-football-ranked-no-11-brand-recruits/

MattyFresh wrote:NSIAP

http://picksixpreviews.com/how_to_win_in_recruiting.html
https://spartanavenue.com/2018/02/08/michigan-state-football-ranked-no-11-brand-recruits/

steveschneider wrote:

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

Yup it’s a $ grab. Oh so you’re telling me Clemson, Georgia, Alabama , and Ohio State along with all of the other traditional powers in football rich states have the best recruits? Can you also tell me water is wet for $9.99 a month? Thank you !!!

Or “Tells me he had a great time on his visit”.

Floyd Robertson wrote:

MattyFresh wrote:NSIAP

http://picksixpreviews.com/how_to_win_in_recruiting.html
https://spartanavenue.com/2018/02/08/michigan-state-football-ranked-no-11-brand-recruits/

NSIAP

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:

MattyFresh wrote:NSIAP

http://picksixpreviews.com/how_to_win_in_recruiting.html
https://spartanavenue.com/2018/02/08/michigan-state-football-ranked-no-11-brand-recruits/

I don't see how they have ND so low. They have a major fucking network to themselves.

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:

DWags wrote:


Jesus, isn't this titled "the tears of my enemies"?   Just start ta thread about the tears of Spartans.   They've always valued their top ten rankings.  Now they don't have them, after a fairly disapointing year.  

Don't be such a debbie downer.   Wait, forget it, do what you got to do.

OTPT has an insatiable desire to make sure none of us get too happy with MSU athletics.

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

steveschneider wrote:

I have never given a shit about rankings. When the old board moved to 247 and it started to become a big recruiting board I looked up Michigans recruiting rankings, Notre Dames and the Wisconsins. Wisconsin was a much better football team at the time but had 2 and 3 star recruits...how could that be since they don't have great recruits? Right then I knew something about those sites was fishy. If those guys at the sites could actually rate talent they'd be scouts in the pros or at a University.

Yup it’s a $ grab. Oh so you’re telling me Clemson, Georgia, Alabama , and Ohio State along with all of the other traditional powers in football rich states have the best recruits? Can you also tell me water is wet for $9.99 a month? Thank you !!!

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

DWags wrote:


Jesus, isn't this titled "the tears of my enemies"?   Just start ta thread about the tears of Spartans.   They've always valued their top ten rankings.  Now they don't have them, after a fairly disapointing year.  

Don't be such a debbie downer.   Wait, forget it, do what you got to do.

If utilizing logic is being a Debbie downer, i apologize.

LooseGoose wrote:

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

Yup it’s a $ grab. Oh so you’re telling me Clemson, Georgia, Alabama , and Ohio State along with all of the other traditional powers in football rich states have the best recruits? Can you also tell me water is wet for $9.99 a month? Thank you !!!

OTPT mocks others while his account is being deducted $15.99 a month for the Swill.

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

DWags wrote:


Jesus, isn't this titled "the tears of my enemies"?   Just start ta thread about the tears of Spartans.   They've always valued their top ten rankings.  Now they don't have them, after a fairly disapointing year.  

Don't be such a debbie downer.   Wait, forget it, do what you got to do.

If utilizing logic is being a Debbie downer, i apologize.