Wakes: God bless you, but this is exactly why I've discouraged my kids from going into education.

it's a tough profession and is only likely to get tougher as society turns its priorities away from the most vulnerable among us.

sad and unfortunate.

One of my good friends is happy his son has deferred his student teaching at WMU and decided to continue working full time for the Kzoo based office furniture distributor first as a grunt and now as a delivery/set up supervisor.

His father is a 35 year teacher with a masters and had advised him not to major in education.

The entire education system in the US is completely fucked. People always bitch about funding but don't realize the root cause of the problem is more about structure and method than how much money we're spending (though I think money is a smaller part of the problem for sure).

AnomanderRake wrote:The entire education system in the US is completely fucked. People always bitch about funding but don't realize the root cause of the problem is more about structure and method than how much money we're spending (though I think money is a smaller part of the problem for sure).

money and funding is an issue, for sure - but you're correct about educational structure and methodology. Often, though, it's difficult to reassess and restructure when you're underfunded.

which is the whole point of the modern anti-education movement. They set public education up to fail and then highlight the failures of a system they intentionally subverted as a crumbling entity that needs to be completely remodeled in a predetermined vision that disenfranchises the most vulnerable.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

AnomanderRake wrote:The entire education system in the US is completely fucked. People always bitch about funding but don't realize the root cause of the problem is more about structure and method than how much money we're spending (though I think money is a smaller part of the problem for sure).

money and funding is an issue, for sure - but you're correct about educational structure and methodology. Often, though, it's difficult to reassess and restructure when you're underfunded.

which is the whole point of the modern anti-education movement. They set public education up to fail and then highlight the failures of a system they intentionally subverted as a crumbling entity that needs to be completely remodeled in a predetermined vision that disenfranchises the most vulnerable.

This . It's insane what I had to deal with in high school. Northwest (Jackson) was falling apart everywhere, yet the bonds would fail to pass every year. And you would see large signs in people's yards to vote no for the school bonds because their taxes would go up a whole $10. Except we literally had ceiling tiles fall on our heads, very few working toilets (and even most in the women's didn't have doors), furnace was always broken (wearing winter coats in class was necessary), and they turned janitors closets into small classrooms. These were just a few things that I had to deal with. While Northwest wasn't an amazing school, it wasn't in a terrible ghetto area. This shit shouldn't happen. In addition to the shit salaries that teachers make as well. I wouldn't advise my daughter to get into teaching either. Even though I highly respect and appreciate what they do for students.

For the record, a bond finally passed after I graduated.