tOfficial NBA Draft Thread

by **Turtleneck** Wed 25 Jun 2014 - 14:53

So, if you're Cleveland, do you take Parker or Wiggins at the #1 spot?

NBADraft.net has Harris going to Denver at #11 and Payne to Chicago at #19.

http://www.nbadraft.net/2014mock_draft

by SpartanJD01 Wed 25 Jun 2014 - 15:23

I take whoever LeBron wants to play with.

by **Turtleneck** Wed 25 Jun 2014 - 16:58

SpartanJD01 wrote:I take whoever LeBron wants to play with.

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I plan to opt out if Miami is unwilling to draft that McGary kid from Michigan.

by **StylesGShmooth** Wed 25 Jun 2014 - 23:45

Embid

by **Turtleneck** Wed 25 Jun 2014 - 23:52

He will be out through December and then will need to be worked in gradually. No way I take a guy that will be unable to do any real work in his first year when Wiggins and Parker are available. Then there is the issue of taking a big man that has already developed foot problems.

by **steveschneider** Wed 25 Jun 2014 - 23:53

Question, what the hell is up with the lottery. If you finish last shouldn't you pick first?

by **Turtleneck** Thu 26 Jun 2014 - 0:03

steveschneider wrote:Question, what the hell is up with the lottery. If you finish last shouldn't you pick first?

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The NBA likes to be different/or the whole thing is rigged. Not sure which.

by **StylesGShmooth** Thu 26 Jun 2014 - 0:29

steveschneider wrote:Question, what the hell is up with the lottery. If you finish last shouldn't you pick first?

The lottery is supposed to discourage tanking. Works well.

by **steveschneider** Thu 26 Jun 2014 - 0:33

StylesGShmooth wrote:

The lottery is supposed to discourage tanking. Works well.

I can't remember who but didn't some teams get accused of tanking it recently? If true not sure it'a that good at discouraging.

by **steveschneider** Thu 26 Jun 2014 - 0:36

http://www.businessinsider.com/nba-gm-admits-he-created-a-plan-for-his-team-to-tank-2013-10

Looks like a gm planned for his team to tank it before the season even started.

by MJ Thu 26 Jun 2014 - 0:50

Always a sad night for me. Spend a couple years watching some guys develop and become great players, then they enter the NBA and I never see them again.

by **StylesGShmooth** Thu 26 Jun 2014 - 0:55

steveschneider wrote:

I can't remember who but didn't some teams get accused of tanking it recently? If true not sure it'a that good at discouraging.

Several teams blatantly tanked this year. 6ers and Jazz fans waving their hands right nowl. Some were better than others at it. Some had coaches who weren't on board, sup Thibs.

I was being very sarcastic when I said 'works well'.

by **NigelUno** Thu 26 Jun 2014 - 1:00

StylesGShmooth wrote:

Several teams blatantly tanked this year. 6ers and Jazz fans waving their hands right nowl. Some were better than others at it. Some had coaches who weren't on board, sup Thibs.

I was being very sarcastic when I said 'works well'.

The Hawks tried to tank games, and couldn't tank as well as other teams. They ended up making the playoffs as an 8 seed and almost beat the 1 seed in the first round. That's how bad the NBA is.

by **Turtleneck** Thu 26 Jun 2014 - 1:01

NigelUno wrote:

The Hawks tried to tank games, and couldn't tank as well as other teams. They ended up making the playoffs as an 8 seed and almost beat the 1 seed in the first round. That's how bad the NBA's Eastern Conference is.

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by **StylesGShmooth** Thu 26 Jun 2014 - 1:09

NigelUno wrote:

The Hawks tried to tank games, and couldn't tank as well as other teams. They ended up making the playoffs as an 8 seed and almost beat the 1 seed in the first round. That's how bad the NBA is.

Yup, despite every effort to not make the playoffs the Knicks just refused to take that spot from them. Phoenix was an original tank job too, but Hornacek coached his ass off and those guys played awesome this year. Dragic's stock went through the roof. Just remember that Houston let him & Kyle Lowry go to overpay Jeremy Lin. Bulls decided to tank once Rose went down but Thibs wasn't having it. Ironically Cleveland & Milwaukee were legitimately trying to compete.

by **duffy munn** Thu 26 Jun 2014 - 1:26

StylesGShmooth wrote:

Yup, despite every effort to not make the playoffs the Knicks just refused to take that spot from them. Phoenix was an original tank job too, but Hornacek coached his ass off and those guys played awesome this year. Dragic's stock went through the roof. Just remember that Houston let him & Kyle Lowry go to overpay Jeremy Lin. Bulls decided to tank once Rose went down but Thibs wasn't having it. Ironically Cleveland & Milwaukee were legitimately trying to compete.

Here's what I don't get about tanking: the guys that are on the floor are fighting for a paycheck and have pride. Regardless of the plan by management, every player in the league has talent.

In this sense, it's impossible to truly tank a game unless the players are in on it.

by **StylesGShmooth** Thu 26 Jun 2014 - 3:44

duffy munn wrote:

Here's what I don't get about tanking: the guys that are on the floor are fighting for a paycheck and have pride. Regardless of the plan by management, every player in the league has talent.

In this sense, it's impossible to truly tank a game unless the players are in on it.

Players are never really in on it. They just assemble terrible teams. Take Philly, where they slowly traded away every semi-decent player they had. Never let Noel play even after he finally recovered from the injury. Eventaully guys like Thad Young say **** it and stop giving a ****. Hope they didn't ruin him. Can't imagine his thought process as he watched them let every other legit NBA player on the roster go as the season progressed. Gotta be hard to go into the office and actually give your all like it matters, That atmosphere can create really bad habits. MCW was visibly a much worse player by the end of the season as well. Be interesting to see if all those bad habits he developed stuck.

by **I.B. Fine** Thu 26 Jun 2014 - 14:25

I just looked at SI's player ranking by position and they have Parker at a #3 and Wiggins at the 2, I thought it was the other way around? They're both 6'8", so I guess I can see it either way, but was Wiggins really a 2 at Kansas?

by **Turtleneck** Thu 26 Jun 2014 - 14:31

I.B. Fine wrote:I just looked at SI's player ranking by position and they have Parker at a #3 and Wiggins at the 2, I thought it was the other way around? They're both 6'8", so I guess I can see it either way, but was Wiggins really a 2 at Kansas?

Parker comes off as a 2, but has the size of the 3 at 6'9 240lbs. Wiggins is actually smaller. He is a 3 but might be listed as a 2 because he is 6'8 200lbs.

by **StylesGShmooth** Thu 26 Jun 2014 - 17:30

Parker is a 3/4. He jumped Center for Duke several times last year.

by BtothejizA Thu 26 Jun 2014 - 19:07

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76ers offered Cavs 3, 10 and 32 for 1. I take that all day if I'm the Cavs, not sold that Wiggins and Parker are the next LBJ/KD.

by Cosmo_Kramer Thu 26 Jun 2014 - 19:10

Cavs will take Parker. Fits a need and is the safer bet. I think Wiggins is overrated too.

by dubie7006 Thu 26 Jun 2014 - 19:15

AP looking dapper as hell. Love it.

by **The Pantry** Thu 26 Jun 2014 - 21:24

Stauskas over Harris? tOfficial NBA Draft Thread 1494614055

by **Turtleneck** Thu 26 Jun 2014 - 21:26

dubie7006 wrote:AP looking dapper as hell. Love it.

Stauskas off the board. I am not sold on his " total offensive game" translating to the NBA like we were just told.

by **Turtleneck** Thu 26 Jun 2014 - 21:28

The Pantry wrote:Stauskas over Harris?

I don't see him getting to the basket as much in the NBA. He surprised me this year, and by the end of the year was more than a shooter. But I do not see him making plays off the dribble in the NBA.

by BtothejizA Thu 26 Jun 2014 - 21:31

Turtleneck wrote:

I don't see him getting to the basket as much in the NBA. He surprised me this year, and by the end of the year was more than a shooter. But I do not see him making plays off the dribble in the NBA.

Agree. I think the same about Gary, but Gary can play defense.

by **Turtleneck** Thu 26 Jun 2014 - 21:35

BtothejizA wrote:

Agree. I think the same about Gary, but Gary can play defense.

I think Harris is a bit more athletic, and that is what makes him a better defender.

by BtothejizA Thu 26 Jun 2014 - 21:37

Turtleneck wrote:

I think Harris is a bit more athletic, and that is what makes him a better defender.

Yeah, idk if he's quick enough off the dribble to get into the lane though.

by BtothejizA Thu 26 Jun 2014 - 21:39

These players all look like they're 15.

by **Turtleneck** Thu 26 Jun 2014 - 21:39

Probably not, but he can do more around the rim and might be a decent rebounding guard.

by **Turtleneck** Thu 26 Jun 2014 - 21:43

BtothejizA wrote:These players all look like they're 15.

McDermott has a little kid haircut

by BtothejizA Thu 26 Jun 2014 - 21:53

Nuggets get 16th and 19th picks for McDermott.

They worked out Gary and AP...

by **WhiteBoyHatcher** Thu 26 Jun 2014 - 21:55

1 more pick in the lottery.

by **Turtleneck** Thu 26 Jun 2014 - 21:58

BtothejizA wrote:Nuggets get 16th and 19th picks for McDermott.

They worked out Gary and AP...

That would be awesome. Rexrode said something about Harris at 16
to Denver on Twitter. They need a SG.

by **The Pantry** Thu 26 Jun 2014 - 22:03

Exum cashed in quick with the Footlocker gig

by **Turtleneck** Thu 26 Jun 2014 - 22:03

Thought Payne might go there since Suns needed a PF.

by **Turtleneck** Thu 26 Jun 2014 - 22:07

Bill Simmons is a complete idiot.

Says no players have slipped...10 seconds later says Vonleh slipping.

Says nothing about the Philly and Orlando picks, they announce trade, and then he say they seemed like odd picks.

Now says Harris is slipping. He was projected between 11-16. The draft is still in that range.

He is almost as dumb as Jalen.

by Stoops21 Thu 26 Jun 2014 - 22:08

Msu fucked once again in the drafts

by **The Pantry** Thu 26 Jun 2014 - 22:08

BtothejizA wrote:Nuggets get 16th and 19th picks for McDermott.

They worked out Gary and AP...

Harris and AP both to Denver would be awesome

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