Dear young people, "Don't Vote" Ad

Thought this was relevant to post, considering the demographics of the board and your attitudes toward younger people.

(also, as fucked as I think the system is, I will be voting. )

It’s pretty true. Older richer and whiter people vote.

Last midterm

18-29: 13%
30-44: 22%
45-64: 43%
65 and up: 22%

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2014/11/05/midterm-election-turnout/18537907/

I'm getting awfully close to that 45-64 demographic. :(

Seems like a pretty realistic ad to me. It will have little effect on those who see it.

I hate saying this, but this is the most important election I can ever remember. I have never been so fired up to vote. Have 4 millennial kids. 8 if you count spouses. 5 I won't have trouble encouraging them to vote and vote against the asshole in the oval office. 3 think the system is rigged and their votes don't count. Yep, they don't count if you don't vote. I'll try to convince them anyways.

I'm tired of these demonstrations. They have their place. But they don't mean a fucking thing if these people jamming the hallways of congress and filling the streets don't vote.

Dr. Strangelove wrote:Last midterm

18-29: 13%
30-44: 22%
45-64: 43%
65 and up: 22%

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2014/11/05/midterm-election-turnout/18537907/

Why is the 45-64 group sample size bigger than the others? Seems it would naturally make up a bigger %

kingstonlake wrote:

Dr. Strangelove wrote:Last midterm

18-29: 13%
30-44: 22%
45-64: 43%
65 and up: 22%

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2014/11/05/midterm-election-turnout/18537907/

Why is the 45-64 group sample size bigger than the others? Seems it would naturally make up a bigger %

Look at the date on the article. Those are exit polls and the article is from the day after the 2014 election. That link should be treated with almost nothing more than a grain of salt 4 years later.

Frank Ricard wrote:I hate saying this, but this is the most important election I can ever remember. I have never been so fired up to vote. Have 4 millennial kids. 8 if you count spouses. 5 I won't have trouble encouraging them to vote and vote against the asshole in the oval office. 3 think the system is rigged and their votes don't count. Yep, they don't count if you don't vote. I'll try to convince them anyways.

I'm tired of these demonstrations. They have their place. But they don't mean a fucking thing if these people jamming the hallways of congress and filling the streets don't vote.

While I always vote, that's the problem with the generation. They think it's rigged anyway, so why bother. We know theres a lot wrong with that thought process, but we also know there is truth in voter hacking. It's unfortunately a lose lose.

My thought it, what do you have to lose by voting? More than if you dont. If only they all thought that way.

Dendrobates wrote:but we also know there is truth in voter hacking.

We do?? I know there is a huge problem in the voter registration process:

https://ktla.com/2018/10/08/california-dmv-finds-another-1500-people-it-wrongly-registered-to-vote-among-them-non-citizens/

But then you guys are all against showing proof of identity at the polls. Weird hypocrisy.

TheReal_LWS wrote:

Dendrobates wrote:but we also know there is truth in voter hacking.

We do?? I know there is a huge problem in the voter registration process:

https://ktla.com/2018/10/08/california-dmv-finds-another-1500-people-it-wrongly-registered-to-vote-among-them-non-citizens/

But then you guys are all against showing proof of identity at the polls. Weird hypocrisy.

Huh?

TheReal_LWS wrote:

Dendrobates wrote:but we also know there is truth in voter hacking.

We do?? I know there is a huge problem in the voter registration process:

https://ktla.com/2018/10/08/california-dmv-finds-another-1500-people-it-wrongly-registered-to-vote-among-them-non-citizens/

But then you guys are all against showing proof of identity at the polls. Weird hypocrisy.

Who are "you guys", Bee? Also, who is against showing at least one form of ID? Quit trying to be the dumbest person in the room.

TheReal_LWS wrote:

Dendrobates wrote:but we also know there is truth in voter hacking.

We do?? I know there is a huge problem in the voter registration process:

https://ktla.com/2018/10/08/california-dmv-finds-another-1500-people-it-wrongly-registered-to-vote-among-them-non-citizens/

But then you guys are all against showing proof of identity at the polls. Weird hypocrisy.

At least one non-citizen and perhaps many more were improperly registered to vote in California by the Department of Motor Vehicles

Since then, people have newly registered or updated their voter registration more than a million times

So literally one in a million confirmed.

TheReal_LWS wrote:

Dendrobates wrote:but we also know there is truth in voter hacking.

We do?? I know there is a huge problem in the voter registration process:

https://ktla.com/2018/10/08/california-dmv-finds-another-1500-people-it-wrongly-registered-to-vote-among-them-non-citizens/

But then you guys are all against showing proof of identity at the polls. Weird hypocrisy.

Huh? We know for a fact (not opinion) that our polling system was/is compromised. 

I don’t mind showing my ID for voting. It’s tjose in poor areas/low points in their life where they don’t have a valid ID. That’s where the issue is.

And side note.... I really had no idea how many people don’t have IDs/expired IDs until I started watching livePD.

America is a stupid country.

It costs money to get an ID, so technically requiring an ID to vote is a voting tax.

Yeah, I have a ton of friends from the homogenous north who live a pretty sheltered life. They want a wall built, because they're afraid of brown people, and the worst part is, they have no idea some of the lives peopel other than then the one they are living and can't figure out why they just can't show I.D. for voting or get themselves to polls during the day. I used to try to explain it to them, but it's always the same answer. It's frustrating on both ends. Stubborn sheltered people on one end that don't know what's going on with people on the other end, and yes, some people who ar too lazy to get an I.D. from the secretary of state. But many have enough money in their pocket for food or i.d., what do you choose.

My life was pretty sheltered too. I came from two college educated peopel who knew how to navigate h.s. and how to get into college. Never had too much problem with putting food on the table and paying electric bills and water bills. It's hard to convince a lot of people like me that everyone just can't do what I'm doing or have done. I don't know how you do that either.

Dendrobates wrote:Huh? We know for a fact (not opinion) that our polling system was/is compromised. 

I've seen no hard evidence of this. In fact, everything I've seen is that there is no evidence of this. I know Hillary voters like to tell themselves that the Russians hacked into voting machines and added millions of votes for Trump, but yeah that didn't happen.

TheReal_LWS wrote:

Dendrobates wrote:Huh? We know for a fact (not opinion) that our polling system was/is compromised. 

I've seen no hard evidence of this. In fact, everything I've seen is that there is no evidence of this. I know Hillary voters like to tell themselves that the Russians hacked into voting machines and added millions of votes for Trump, but yeah that didn't happen.

Yet you take it as a fact that voter fraud is a huge problem.

Kingston, hadn't you heard? 3 million illegal aliens voted for Hills in 2016. Trump set up a commission.

TheReal_LWS wrote:

Dendrobates wrote:Huh? We know for a fact (not opinion) that our polling system was/is compromised. 

I've seen no hard evidence of this. In fact, everything I've seen is that there is no evidence of this. I know Hillary voters like to tell themselves that the Russians hacked into voting machines and added millions of votes for Trump, but yeah that didn't happen.

I think there's a lot you don't see Bee.

DWags wrote:Kingston, hadn't you heard? 3 million illegal aliens voted for Hills in 2016. Trump set up a commission.

InTenSity wrote:It costs money to get an ID, so technically requiring an ID to vote is a voting tax.

Takes money to get to the polling place too. Is that a voting tax?

TheReal_LWS wrote:

InTenSity wrote:It costs money to get an ID, so technically requiring an ID to vote is a voting tax.

Takes money to get to the polling place too. Is that a voting tax?

Lyft and Uber are offering free rides to polling stations.

InTenSity wrote:

TheReal_LWS wrote:

Takes money to get to the polling place too. Is that a voting tax?

Lyft and Uber are offering free rides to polling stations.

there is also this thing called "walking" too.

some people even do it every now and then.