Ezra Robinson Transferring

by **InTenSity** 2014-07-11, 14:47

Joe's reporting that E. Robinson is gone. How does this affect our backfield? I thought he was one of the guys who was supposed to step up this year. Does this hurt, or do we have guys to take his place?

by **Giant Moose** 2014-07-11, 15:00

I'm not worried. Our program is better than Ezra.

by Cool Runnings 2014-07-11, 15:07

It's disappointing for sure but we still some depth. Hicks was the #1 opposite of Waynes to this point so as it was Robinson was battling for a back-up spot. Between Colquhoun and Edmondson we should be able to get a suitable #3. Colquhoun was in the two-deeps last season and got some playing time before getting injured. 6'1 193 and a burner. Didn't play in the spring game from a minor tweak but should be healthy for the season I believe. Edmondson looked solid in the spring game. Good awareness and coverage ability. Behind them there's Justin Williams who's a tall speedster coming off of a redshirt and true FR Vayante Copeland who could redshirt but will be given the opportunity to compete. Robinson looked pretty damn good in the Spring game but we aren't hurting for depth yet. Very interested to see where he goes. Looks like he could be a real good player.

by **SeeRockCity** 2014-07-11, 15:08

Giant Moose wrote:I'm not worried. Our program is better than Ezra.

by CrazySparty 2014-07-11, 15:19

Believe he was in line to be the starter ahead of Waynes in 2013 before he got into some legal trouble.

We would've been in great shape had Robinson been the first corner off the bench for us. So while it's certainly a blow depth-wise, we still have enough pieces at that position to where there's no real reason to panic unless we see multiple injuries at CB.

by SawGreen 2014-07-11, 16:16

Giant Moose wrote:I'm not worried. Our program is better than Ezra.

by **NigelUno** 2014-07-11, 16:39

Roster management.

by **Mentalstate** 2014-07-11, 16:42

And then comes a rumor that others (not starters) in the DB might also be gone come fall....this is a big hit to our depth.

by **InTenSity** 2014-07-11, 16:52

Is that because these kids want to play now and not wait for their turn? That would suck if a strength turned into a weakness. Pretty sure you can post rumors here.

by **NigelUno** 2014-07-11, 16:57

This must be the story that was a rumor a few days ago.

by SpartanMikey 2014-07-11, 17:27

NigelUno wrote:This must be the story that was a rumor a few days ago.

Please do speculate.

by Rodeo Burger 2014-07-11, 17:38

Mentalstate wrote:And then comes a rumor that others (not starters) in the DB might also be gone come fall....this is a big hit to our depth.

Please don't be that guy. Either say what the rumor is, or don't mention it at all. Thank you.

by **Mentalstate** 2014-07-11, 18:14

Rodeo Burger wrote:

Please don't be that guy. Either say what the rumor is, or don't mention it at all. Thank you.

That is the rumor. Other non-starters, no names were named, in the DB backfield.

by **NigelUno** 2014-07-11, 19:34

Mentalstate wrote:

That is the rumor. Other non-starters, no names.

I think we need to lose one more guy anyway for scholly numbers.

by **tGreenWay** 2014-07-11, 20:38

NigelUno wrote:

I think we need to lose one more guy anyway for scholly numbers.

Let's announce that JJ McGrath has been dismissed from the team just to make his head explode.

by JEK 2014-07-11, 20:41

tGreenWay wrote:

Let's announce that JJ McGrath has been dismissed from the team just to make his head explode.

"When you do the math, you cut McGrath."

http://mcgrathimports.com/

by CrazySparty 2014-07-11, 21:40

Mentalstate wrote:

That is the rumor. Other non-starters, no names were named, in the DB backfield.

Link to "rumor"?

by **GRR Spartan** 2014-07-11, 21:56

As MSU gets better, better athletes want to come here. It's too bad Robinson has decided to leave but some players handle fighting for a starting spot better than others.

I know some people who played Big Ten football and the one constant is no matter how tough they were told it would be, getting to be a starter is brutal. Everyone on the team was one of their HS best players , one of the best players in their conference and at worst all region.

I hope he finds a school that will get him the PT he seeks.

by Larry Kazamias 2014-07-12, 10:10

Giant Moose wrote:I'm not worried. Our program is better than Ezra.

Uh huh he was good

by CrazySparty 2014-07-12, 11:05

So, was this Robinson leaving because of playing time issues, or MSU essentially forcing him out to cut down to 85 scholarship players?

by Herbie Green 2014-07-12, 16:15

Rodeo Burger wrote:

Sorry but that is premium content

Please don't be that guy. Either say what the rumor is, or don't mention it at all. Thank you.

by **WhiteBoyHatcher** 2014-07-12, 18:44

I checked the thread in question. They're taking about Arjen Colquolquohounquoquen

by Macks 2014-07-12, 23:48

Interesting....Robinson looked pretty good in the two spring games he played and seemed to be neck and neck with Darian Hicks for that 2nd CB spot. All indications were that he was getting good reviews from the coaches too. This hints at a few things:

- Darian Hicks won the starting spot opposite Waynes
- Coaches are sold on using a safety for the nickel (they usually tend to anyway). With Drummond at FS and one of Williamson/Cox at SS, the odd man out would be the nickel. Jalyn Powell might even have the inside track as the 6th DB.
- Edmonson may have made some strides as well which made Robinson's chance at playing time even more scarce.

Overall this isn't the worst news, and understandable that he would go elsewhere for playing time. But with Colquhoun's constant injury issues (he's missed the past 2 spring games with injuries, IIRC) this makes our CB depth a little thinner. Hope we don't lose Colquhoun as well.

by CrazySparty 2014-07-12, 23:56

CrazySparty wrote:So, was this Robinson leaving because of playing time issues, or MSU essentially forcing him out to cut down to 85 scholarship players?

Bueller?

by **Heat Miser** 2014-07-13, 01:21

CrazySparty wrote:
CrazySparty wrote:So, was this Robinson leaving because of playing time issues, or MSU essentially forcing him out to cut down to 85 scholarship players?

Bueller?

The lack of a response should indicate to you the idiocy of your query.

by CrazySparty 2014-07-13, 01:31

Heat Miser wrote:

The lack of a response should indicate to you the idiocy of your query.

So, it's idiotic to point out the fact that MSU was over the scholarship limit before Robinson transferred(I think we still might be, too)?

Interesting. Please continue.

by **Heat Miser** 2014-07-13, 01:36

CrazySparty wrote:
Heat Miser wrote:

The lack of a response should indicate to you the idiocy of your query.

So, it's idiotic to point out the fact that MSU was over the scholarship limit before Robinson transferred(I think we still might be, too)?

Interesting. Please continue.

There are plenty of less "useful" players that are better candidates to be "forced out". Again...your ignorance and trolling is obvious. Hence the lack of response.

by CrazySparty 2014-07-13, 01:40

Heat Miser wrote:

There are plenty of less "useful" players that are better candidates to be "forced out". Again...your ignorance and trolling is obvious. Hence the lack of response.

So, it's trolling to suggest that Dantonio and co. may have at least had a conversation with Robinson regarding issues surrounding the scholarship issues and playing time(Or lack there of)?

Weird, that sounds fairly plausible to me.

by **Heat Miser** 2014-07-13, 01:55

CrazySparty wrote:
Heat Miser wrote:

There are plenty of less "useful" players that are better candidates to be "forced out". Again...your ignorance and trolling is obvious. Hence the lack of response.

So, it's trolling to suggest that Dantonio and co. may have at least had a conversation with Robinson regarding issues surrounding the scholarship issues and playing time(Or lack there of)?

Weird, that sounds fairly plausible to me.

Yes...it's clearly trolling. And ignorant trolling at that.

by CrazySparty 2014-07-13, 02:03

Heat Miser wrote:

Yes...it's clearly trolling. And ignorant trolling at that.

Let me get this straight... I'm supposed to believe Robinson took nearly three months(between now and the Spring Game) to realize he wasn't going to see much playing time, and for me to wonder otherwise is trolling? It's ignorant for me to wonder if something else came into the equation during that time frame, and pointing out the fact that MSU was over the scholly limit is idiotic?

So you're telling me there's no way MSU being over the scholly limit with just weeks to go until Fall Camp, which just so happens to be the deadline for MSU to cut down to 85 scholly players, had anything to do with Robinson's transfer?

And you think I'm ignorant?

by **Heat Miser** 2014-07-13, 02:09

CrazySparty wrote:
Heat Miser wrote:

Yes...it's clearly trolling. And ignorant trolling at that.

Let me get this straight... I'm supposed to believe Robinson took nearly three months(between now and the Spring Game) to realize he wasn't going to see much playing time, and for me to wonder otherwise is trolling? It's ignorant for me to wonder if something else came into the equation during that time frame, and pointing out the fact that MSU was over the scholly limit is idiotic?

So you're telling me there's no way MSU being over the scholly limit with just weeks to go until Fall Camp, which just so happens to be the deadline for MSU to cut down to 85 scholly players, had anything to do with Robinson's transfer?

And you think I'm ignorant?

Yes. You're ignorant. Robinson was in the running for a starting position. Failing that, he was a tweaked hammy away from a starting spot our at worst the first guy of the bench. If you think Coach D is running guys off who are that close to significant playing time then yes, you're a fucking ignorant moran. Congratulations.

by CrazySparty 2014-07-13, 02:11

Heat Miser wrote:

Yes. You're ignorant. Robinson was in the running for a starting position. Failing that, he was a tweaked hammy away from a starting spot our at worst the first guy of the bench. If you think Coach D is running guys off who are that close to significant playing time then yes, you're a fucking ignorant moran. Congratulations.

So, he was in the running for a starting spot, or at worst, first guy off of the bench,... Yet transferred because of PT issues, and nothing else? scratch

by **Heat Miser** 2014-07-13, 02:27

CrazySparty wrote:
Heat Miser wrote:

Yes. You're ignorant. Robinson was in the running for a starting position. Failing that, he was a tweaked hammy away from a starting spot our at worst the first guy of the bench. If you think Coach D is running guys off who are that close to significant playing time then yes, you're a fucking ignorant moran. Congratulations.

So, he was in the running for a starting spot, or at worst, first guy off of the bench,... Yet transferred because of PT issues, and nothing else?

Yeah...that's never happened before. Dumbfuck..

by CrazySparty 2014-07-13, 02:33

Heat Miser wrote:

Yeah...that's never happened before. Dumbfuck..

It wouldn't be the first time, and it certainly wouldn't be the last.

However, I don't recall too many of those instances occurring in mid-July. They're usually much closer to the end of Spring Practice.

I find the timing and surrounding circumstances to be curious. You don't. That's fine, though I can't help but notice you're hurling insults more than actual constructive counter-points. Personally, I find that rather telling.

by **Heat Miser** 2014-07-13, 02:48

CrazySparty wrote:
Heat Miser wrote:

Yeah...that's never happened before. Dumbfuck..

It wouldn't be the first time, and it certainly wouldn't be the last.

However, I don't recall too many of those instances occurring in mid-July. They're usually much closer to the end of Spring Practice.

I find the timing and surrounding circumstances to be curious. You don't. That's fine, though I can't help but notice you're hurling insults more than actual constructive counter-points. Personally, I find that rather telling.

That's because you're a troll. If I was Coach D and I was looking to "run somebody off", I'd start with Mylan Hicks. Not a near starter with 3 years of eligibility left.

If your dumbfuck conjecture had any merit, Jeremy Langford would've transferred prior to last season.

by CrazySparty 2014-07-13, 02:51

Heat Miser wrote:

That's because you're a troll. If I was Coach D and I was looking to "run somebody off", I'd start with Mylan Hicks. Not a near starter with 3 years of eligibility left.

If your dumbfuck conjecture had any merit, Jeremy Langford would've transferred prior to last season.

Were we even over the scholly limit at this point in time last year?

And you're comparing Langford, who was competing for PT at a spot that was surrounded with question marks(running back), to Robinson, who was competing for PT at a spot that we seem to be pretty set at?

Care to try again?

by **NigelUno** 2014-07-13, 09:23

CrazySparty wrote:

So, it's trolling to suggest that Dantonio and co. may have at least had a conversation with Robinson regarding issues surrounding the scholarship issues and playing time(Or lack there of)?

Weird, that sounds fairly plausible to me.

You think the coaches discussed scholarship numbers with him?

by Gus Chiggins 2014-07-13, 10:12

Heat Miser wrote:

That's because you're a troll. If I was Coach D and I was looking to "run somebody off", I'd start with Mylan Hicks. Not a near starter with 3 years of eligibility left.

If your dumbfuck conjecture had any merit, Jeremy Langford would've transferred prior to last season.

Not to mention, MSU isn't over the scholarship limit with players brought in as scholarship players. Before the transfer, MSU was at exactly 85 of those players. It's only when you add the three former walk-ons that you go over the limit. Obviously, those kids have earned it, but they don't have an expectation of keeping their scholarship. So, it's not like MSU couldn't take them off scholarship for a semester if absolutely necessary.

And as you've mentioned, if MSU was going to force or help push a player out, it wouldn't be a rising sophomore in the two deep. It would be a Nick Tompkins, Mylan Hicks, David Fennell, Paul Lang type.

by Guest 2014-07-13, 10:24

Gus Chiggins wrote:

Not to mention, MSU isn't over the scholarship limit with players brought in as scholarship players. Before the transfer, MSU was at exactly 85 of those players. It's only when you add the three former walk-ons that you go over the limit. Obviously, those kids have earned it, but they don't have an expectation of keeping their scholarship. So, it's not like MSU couldn't take them off scholarship for a semester if absolutely necessary.

And as you've mentioned, if MSU was going to force or help push a player out, it wouldn't be a rising sophomore in the two deep. It would be a Nick Tompkins, Mylan Hicks, David Fennell, Paul Lang type.

Damn you and your logic.

by Martin Spartan 2014-07-13, 10:40

CrazySparty wrote:

Were we even over the scholly limit at this point in time last year?

And you're comparing Langford, who was competing for PT at a spot that was surrounded with question marks(running back), to Robinson, who was competing for PT at a spot that we seem to be pretty set at?

Care to try again?

We are 1-3 over the scholarship limit on an annual basis in July. With transfers and Medical DQ's it always works its self out.

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