2020 Swill Bin Democratic Caucus

by **Cameron** 2020-02-03, 09:43

Fuck Iowa.

Vote cancelling allowed, feel free to update your choice. I think I got everyone still in it, let me know if I missed one.

by **steveschneider** 2020-02-03, 09:54

Voted.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2020-02-03, 09:57

Voted.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** 2020-02-03, 10:14

John Delaney dropped out Cameron I know it’s upsetting for everyone

by **Cameron** 2020-02-03, 10:40

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:John Delaney dropped out Cameron I know it’s upsetting for everyone

Oh, cool. I just listed all the ones that popped up when I googled 2020 demo candidates or whatever, but I thought maybe some of them were done already. I was surprised to see Deval Patrick's name, for one. I had hoped to continually update this by removing candidates as they drop out, but apparently I can't edit choices after people have voted, so we'll just have to manually avoid the losers.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** 2020-02-03, 10:44

I’m going to vote for Delany

by **Cameron** 2020-02-03, 11:05

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:I’m going to vote for Delany

#teampylon

by **Floyd Robertson** 2020-02-03, 11:05

Caucuses seem weird to me. Too much talking, not enough pulling the voting machine lever. What can be gained by people talking to one another and trying to sway the opinions of others?

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** 2020-02-03, 11:16

Wish it was multiple choice. YANG & PETE

by **NigelUno** 2020-02-03, 11:23

Voted.

No love for Bernie in the poll.

by **Cameron** 2020-02-03, 12:45

NigelUno wrote:Voted.

No love for Bernie in the poll.

He would be my 2nd choice, currently.

by **Watch Out Pylon!** 2020-02-03, 13:07

Cameron wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:I’m going to vote for Delany

#teampylon

You guys should listen to Cameron. He's a smart dude.

by **Cameron** 2020-02-03, 15:07

I'm guessing Nigel is our Bloomberg vote.

I'm very surprised that Tulsi has 1 and Bernie has 0.

My ranked choice looks like this:
1: Yang
2: Bernie
3: Pete
4: Warren
5: Tulsi
6: the rest about equal

by **Travis of the Cosmos** 2020-02-03, 15:36

1- Warren
2- Bernie
3- John Delaney
4- Yang
5- Large gap
6- A bunch that are unidentifiable from each other
7- Pete
8- Tulsi

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2020-02-03, 15:42

if anyone is wondering, I'm a staunch supporter of #TeamWarren

by **Travis of the Cosmos** 2020-02-03, 15:47

Robert J Sakimano wrote:if anyone is wondering, I'm a staunch supporter of #TeamWarren

by **Cameron** 2020-02-03, 16:07

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:1- Warren
2- Bernie
3- John Delaney
4- Yang
5- Large gap
6- A bunch that are unidentifiable from each other
7- Pete
8- Tulsi

I think I (mostly) know why you don't like Tulsi. Give me a reason to move Pete down, I don't know a whole lot about him.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** 2020-02-03, 16:16

I just find him to be the most disingenuous person in the primary. Really it started early in the primary when he was a big Medicare for all guy then backed right off of that when he realized there wouldn’t be room for him there between Bernie and warren and moved into the more moderate lane when it became apparent that Biden was gonna have some struggles. Then when you look at his whole story, up to and especially including the 6 month stint in the military after he had already gone to Harvard, it’s like it’s all one big set up to run for President (that he might find himself wishing he had put another 10 years into before doing it.) It leaves me with a big feeling of “I don’t really know who you are, I don’t trust you, and I have no idea what you’d actually do in office but I’m pretty sure it won’t be what you say it will be.”

If I’m gonna have to vote for a moderate type in the general.... well probably would have preferred booker of the unidentifiable bunch, but since that’s out all I can say among them is that Pete comes in last.

by **Cameron** 2020-02-03, 16:49

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:I just find him to be the most disingenuous person in the primary. Really it started early in the primary when he was a big Medicare for all guy then backed right off of that when he realized there wouldn’t be room for him there between Bernie and warren and moved into the more moderate lane when it became apparent that Biden was gonna have some struggles. Then when you look at his whole story, up to and especially including the 6 month stint in the military after he had already gone to Harvard, it’s like it’s all one big set up to run for President (that he might find himself wishing he had put another 10 years into before doing it.) It leaves me with a big feeling of “I don’t really know who you are, I don’t trust you, and I have no idea what you’d actually do in office but I’m pretty sure it won’t be what you say it will be.”

If I’m gonna have to vote for a moderate type in the general.... well probably would have preferred booker of the unidentifiable bunch, but since that’s out all I can say among them is that Pete comes in last.

Got it.

I kinda liked Booker, too.

by **kingstonlake** 2020-02-03, 18:21

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:I just find him to be the most disingenuous person in the primary. Really it started early in the primary when he was a big Medicare for all guy then backed right off of that when he realized there wouldn’t be room for him there between Bernie and warren and moved into the more moderate lane when it became apparent that Biden was gonna have some struggles. Then when you look at his whole story, up to and especially including the 6 month stint in the military after he had already gone to Harvard, it’s like it’s all one big set up to run for President (that he might find himself wishing he had put another 10 years into before doing it.) It leaves me with a big feeling of “I don’t really know who you are, I don’t trust you, and I have no idea what you’d actually do in office but I’m pretty sure it won’t be what you say it will be.”

If I’m gonna have to vote for a moderate type in the general.... well probably would have preferred booker of the unidentifiable bunch, but since that’s out all I can say among them is that Pete comes in last.

PB joined the reserves in 2009 and was discharged in 2017. 9 months of active duty.

by **Rocinante** 2020-02-03, 18:23

Yeah, Pete is slimy.

If he got the nom, I’d vote for him though.

by **Rocinante** 2020-02-03, 18:24

Heard some Yangers on a podcast saying if Yang doesn’t get the nomination they’re going to vote for Trump. So. Yeah. Cool.

by **kingstonlake** 2020-02-03, 18:27

Rocinante wrote:Heard some Yangers on a podcast saying if Yang doesn’t get the nomination they’re going to vote for Trump. So. Yeah. Cool.

I think thats slimy..... Razz

by **kingstonlake** 2020-02-03, 18:27

I know this isn't a hot take or anything but the caucus system is ignorant. "Satellite" caucuses in Arizona, counties in fla, etc. Dumb

by **Travis of the Cosmos** 2020-02-03, 18:56

Rocinante wrote:Yeah, Pete is slimy.

If he got the nom, I’d vote for him though.

Yeah definitely. Any of them. Except tulsi but I haven’t really gone through that thought experiment yet and I suspect I won’t have to

by **Cameron** 2020-02-03, 18:58

Rocinante wrote:Heard some Yangers on a podcast saying if Yang doesn’t get the nomination they’re going to vote for Trump. So. Yeah. Cool.

You can look at that two ways:
1) those Yang supporters are petty asshole "liberals"
2) those are people who would otherwise be Trump supporters who find Yang's message appealing enough to support a Democrat

1 is slimy, 2 is encouraging, I would argue.

by **kingstonlake** 2020-02-03, 20:59

These pundits are hilarious. Writing off candidates in the race one hour into the first primary/caucus in whitey McWhiterson, Iowa. There should be at least three states involved on primary nights.

by **Rocinante** 2020-02-03, 21:52

Cameron wrote:
Rocinante wrote:Heard some Yangers on a podcast saying if Yang doesn’t get the nomination they’re going to vote for Trump. So. Yeah. Cool.

You can look at that two ways:
1) those Yang supporters are petty asshole "liberals"
2) those are people who would otherwise be Trump supporters who find Yang's message appealing enough to support a Democrat

1 is slimy, 2 is encouraging, I would argue.

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It just doesn’t represent in the least bit where I think the country needs to go.

by **DWags** 2020-02-04, 01:27

Rocinante wrote:Yeah, Pete is slimy.

If he got the nom, I’d vote for him though.

This.

by **kingstonlake** 2020-02-04, 05:46

kingstonlake wrote:I know this isn't a hot take or anything but the caucus system is ignorant. "Satellite" caucuses in Arizona, counties in fla, etc. Dumb

The prosecution rests its case

by **Jake from State Farm** 2020-02-04, 06:21

Looks like this caucus is light years ahead of Iowa. Who the heck thought it was good idea to put a bunch of old white balding boomers in charge of phone apps to report the results?

by **DWags** 2020-02-04, 06:45

Jake from State Farm wrote:Looks like this caucus is light years ahead of Iowa. Who the heck thought it was good idea to put a bunch of old white balding boomers in charge of phone apps to report the results?

Try to find ten people in Iowa that don’t fit the demographic you just described. Good luck.

by **kingstonlake** 2020-02-04, 07:22

Jake from State Farm wrote:Looks like this caucus is light years ahead of Iowa. Who the heck thought it was good idea to put a bunch of old white balding boomers in charge of phone apps to report the results?

The same people who stage a caucus weighted heavily with college students still suckling on mommy and daddies tits who want everything for free and if they don’t get their way will sit out the general election or vote for Trump.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** 2020-02-04, 07:51

Seems to me that next time we should stop having the first primary be in a red state that keeps sending a nazi to Congress that also has an asinine system for voting. Of course the Iowa Democratic Party is a shit show, they can’t beat, again, a literal nazi. Don’t waste time building their infrastructure to handle this appropriately next time, that’s a waste of money. Have the first primary be in a state that matters in the end and build up their infrastructure.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** 2020-02-04, 07:59

by **DWags** 2020-02-04, 08:45

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:Seems to me that next time we should stop having the first primary be in a red state that keeps sending a nazi to Congress that also has an asinine system for voting. Of course the Iowa Democratic Party is a shit show, they can’t beat, again, a literal nazi. Don’t waste time building their infrastructure to handle this appropriately next time, that’s a waste of money. Have the first primary be in a state that matters in the end and build up their infrastructure.

Fucking Travis for President!

Why, why, why, is my life plagued with the constant need for stepping on our own dick? MSU football, dick steppers, MSU general campus and population, dick steppers, MSU basketball and layups against Wisconsin, dick steppers. There is also plenty of examples in my personal life I've been stepping on my own dick,but I don't want to go into them here. Suffice it to say, my penis is flat as a pancake. And sore.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2020-02-04, 08:52

DWags wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:Seems to me that next time we should stop having the first primary be in a red state that keeps sending a nazi to Congress that also has an asinine system for voting. Of course the Iowa Democratic Party is a shit show, they can’t beat, again, a literal nazi. Don’t waste time building their infrastructure to handle this appropriately next time, that’s a waste of money. Have the first primary be in a state that matters in the end and build up their infrastructure.

Fucking Travis for President!

Why, why, why, is my life plagued with the constant need for stepping on our own dick? MSU football, dick steppers, MSU general campus and population, dick steppers, MSU basketball and layups against Wisconsin, dick steppers. There is also plenty of examples in my personal life I've been stepping on my own dick,but I don't want to go into them here. Suffice it to say, my penis is flat as a pancake. And sore.

I wish I could step on my own dick.

to make up for it, I just go out and buy guns.

by **kingstonlake** 2020-02-04, 09:15

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:Seems to me that next time we should stop having the first primary be in a red state that keeps sending a nazi to Congress that also has an asinine system for voting. Of course the Iowa Democratic Party is a shit show, they can’t beat, again, a literal nazi. Don’t waste time building their infrastructure to handle this appropriately next time, that’s a waste of money. Have the first primary be in a state that matters in the end and build up their infrastructure.

Exactly. 5 primary dates. 10 states each primary. Make each primary representative. Done by the end of March.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** 2020-02-04, 09:21

kingstonlake wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:Seems to me that next time we should stop having the first primary be in a red state that keeps sending a nazi to Congress that also has an asinine system for voting. Of course the Iowa Democratic Party is a shit show, they can’t beat, again, a literal nazi. Don’t waste time building their infrastructure to handle this appropriately next time, that’s a waste of money. Have the first primary be in a state that matters in the end and build up their infrastructure.

Exactly. 5 primary dates. 10 states each primary. Make each primary representative. Done by the end of March.

Why do you only want already famous billionaires to have a chance?

It’s fine to be one state at a time, and have one be the primary focus for a long time going into it, it makes a ton of sense in fact, but there’s no sense in having that state be Iowa. I was on the fence on the issue before yesterday, but now that they fucked up its time to change it.

by **Cameron** 2020-02-04, 10:07

Pete declaring victory without the results in is rather off-putting. Especially so if he doesn't actually end up winning.

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