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Post by DWags Wed 23 Mar 2022 - 18:21

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/indiana/2022/03/23/indiana-basketball-assistant-dane-fife-wont-return-iu-coaching-staff/7145383001/
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Post by tGreenWay Wed 23 Mar 2022 - 18:35

Weird to think how there was a time early in his career at MSU that many fans, including myself, thought Fife’s trajectory would land him in Izzo’s seat once TI retired. Now—not so much.
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Post by tGreenWay Wed 23 Mar 2022 - 18:36

Also, can somebody give me a +1 for that run-on sentence I posted?
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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That Wed 23 Mar 2022 - 18:41

has anyone noticed that guy's body language on the bench?
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Post by GRR Spartan Wed 23 Mar 2022 - 18:52

Fife was recruited by Izzo as a player and then a coach to become an MSU assistant.  Izzo had about 15 years HC experience at MSU when Fife came on board.  

Mike Woodson was a first year HC with no college coaching experience.  We’ll never know any terms regarding coaching were discussed when Fife decided to leave MSU for IU.  

Maybe Woodson needed a scape goat.  Maybe Fife didn’t transition to being an assistant to a rookie HC or maybe Woodson didn’t appreciate the Fife as Woodson’s successor as soon as Fife’s IU hiring was announced.
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Post by DWags Wed 23 Mar 2022 - 18:56

tGreenWay wrote:Also, can somebody give me a +1 for that run-on sentence I posted?

Looked and read normal to me.
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Post by Floyd Robertson Wed 23 Mar 2022 - 18:58

tGreenWay wrote:Also, can somebody give me a +1 for that run-on sentence I posted?

Is it really a run-on sentence if there are two commas? Wouldn't it be a compound sentence?

I'm no English major, trust me.
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Post by NigelUno Wed 23 Mar 2022 - 19:06

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:has anyone noticed that guy's body language on the bench?

I haven't.

Tell me about it.
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Post by tGreenWay Wed 23 Mar 2022 - 19:45

DWags wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:Also, can somebody give me a +1 for that run-on sentence I posted?

Looked and read normal to me.



How dare you call me normal.
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Post by tGreenWay Wed 23 Mar 2022 - 19:46

Floyd Robertson wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:Also, can somebody give me a +1 for that run-on sentence I posted?

Is it really a run-on sentence if there are two commas? Wouldn't it be a compound sentence?

I'm no English major, trust me.


Thanks, Floyd. I feel better now.
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Post by tGreenWay Wed 23 Mar 2022 - 19:50

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:has anyone noticed that guy's body language on the bench?


You mean when he sits and does nothing? Or when he sits and doesn’t engage anyone, looks completely uninterested in the game or, you know, actually coaching players going into or out of said games? Like the body language indicates he’s given up even trying to coach?

No, I haven’t noticed any of that. You must be mistaken.
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Post by Trapper Gus Thu 24 Mar 2022 - 11:45

tGreenWay wrote:
Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:has anyone noticed that guy's body language on the bench?


You mean when he sits and does nothing? Or when he sits and doesn’t engage anyone, looks completely uninterested in the game or, you know, actually coaching players going into or out of said games? Like the body language indicates he’s given up even trying to coach?

No, I haven’t noticed any of that. You must be mistaken.

If there is a serious clash between Woodson & Fife he may be doing what Woodson wants him to do.
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Post by DWags Thu 24 Mar 2022 - 12:13

Reading IU Tweets there are some people who thought he didn’t recruit well. Some thought he didn’t coach well. Who knows. At the age he’s at, I really think you slow down, look around put the clutch in and make the decision in your field: do I shift from fourth gäl. to fifth gear and go out the next ten years in a blaze, or do I shift down to 3rd and start looking at other options. He’s got the clutch pressed, we’ll see what he decides I guess.
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Post by Motown Spartan Thu 24 Mar 2022 - 13:29

DWags wrote:Reading IU Tweets there are some people who thought he didn’t recruit well. Some thought he didn’t coach well. Who knows. At the age he’s at, I really think you slow down, look around put the clutch in and make the decision in your field: do I shift from fourth gäl. to fifth gear and go out the next ten years in a blaze, or do I shift down to 3rd and start looking at other options. He’s got the clutch pressed, we’ll see what he decides I guess.

There's a decent chance that at his age, he never learned how to drive a stick.
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Post by tGreenWay Thu 24 Mar 2022 - 20:45

DWags wrote:Reading IU Tweets there are some people who thought he didn’t recruit well. Some thought he didn’t coach well.  Who knows. At the age he’s at, I really think you slow down, look around put the clutch in and make the decision in your field: do I shift from fourth gäl. to fifth gear and go out the next ten years in a blaze, or do I shift down to 3rd and start looking at other options.  He’s got the clutch pressed, we’ll see what he decides I guess.  


It’s unfair for IU fans to suggest he didn’t recruit well after less than a year in the position. Were they expecting three or four 5-stars already?

I read on TOB that one rumor is DF and Woodson have divergent political opinions as well as different views on Covid. Again, that’s just one rumor, so it’s more likely just another fan speculating like we do on all things MSU. If it’s true, we Spartan fans know what a divided locker room can do to team cohesion on the field.
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Post by tGreenWay Thu 24 Mar 2022 - 20:47

Trapper Gus wrote:
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You mean when he sits and does nothing? Or when he sits and doesn’t engage anyone, looks completely uninterested in the game or, you know, actually coaching players going into or out of said games? Like the body language indicates he’s given up even trying to coach?

No, I haven’t noticed any of that. You must be mistaken.

If there is a serious clash between Woodson & Fife he may be doing what Woodson wants him to do.


He’s def doing what the head coach wanted, because Woodson wanted him gone. Hence, the dismissal.
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Post by DWags Sun 27 Mar 2022 - 22:02

Fife situation could have been handled better. The Daily Hoosier



nd with no further information, a flood of rumors filled the void and hit the message boards that painted Fife as insubordinate, disrespectful and out of touch. To be sure, no one actually published anything substantiating those rumors, and that should tell you something about the validity of what is circulating. The real story is a bit more basketball related than what is out there. But the damage was done. And it was completely unnecessary.
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Post by tGreenWay Sun 27 Mar 2022 - 22:34

DWags wrote:Fife situation could have been handled better. The Daily Hoosier



nd with no further information, a flood of rumors filled the void and hit the message boards that painted Fife as insubordinate, disrespectful and out of touch. To be sure, no one actually published anything substantiating those rumors, and that should tell you something about the validity of what is circulating. The real story is a bit more basketball related than what is out there. But the damage was done. And it was completely unnecessary.



The author is spot on.
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Post by GRR Spartan Mon 28 Mar 2022 - 13:17

Rumors are spreading like wildfire but at the end of the day it’s damned curious that IU / Woodson would would actively pursue alum/former player Fife, make him the highest paid assistant with a two year contract @ $375K per year and release him with such a bare knuckle boiler plate press release.

Fife did or didn’t do things that made Woodson want him gone in less than a year.
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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That Mon 28 Mar 2022 - 13:34

Maybe he tried recruiting Loyer and Kithier to IU
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Post by I.B. Fine Mon 28 Mar 2022 - 15:42

tGreenWay wrote:Also, can somebody give me a +1 for that run-on sentence I posted?
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Post by tGreenWay Mon 28 Mar 2022 - 16:30

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tGreenWay wrote:Also, can somebody give me a +1 for that run-on sentence I posted?
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Post by NigelUno Sun 3 Apr 2022 - 13:11

Thad Matta to Butler. Maybe Fife will go there.
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