10-2 with losses to Ohio St and Oregon

Successful season or no?

I'd say no because the 3 biggest B1G games are at home. Need to win the East.

I'd say anything less than 15-0 and this season is an absolute failure, and Dantonio should be on the hot seat.

Serious?

JLS & Bobby wasn't that long ago.

The_Dude wrote:by The_Dude on Thu Jul 31, 2014 4:53 pm

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It would be a lot better with a bowl win. I think everyone can agree that this team can be a championship caliber team, so it would be a bitter pill to swallow knowing they didn't win the big Ten or garner national title consideration.

This is msu's year to legitimize itself in the eyes of the National media, rather than wilt the way that a team like Oklahoma state or ucla would be expected to do, where they may have a good year and then come on Apple sauce the following season. Have to back up last year with a really really strong performance in my mind.

That said, i would always take 10-2 with no upsets. Georgia does that each season and everyone there seems hunky dory.

Ass Dan wrote:It would be a lot better with a bowl win. I think everyone can agree that this team can be a championship caliber team, so it would be a bitter pill to swallow knowing they didn't win the big Ten or garner national title consideration.

This is msu's year to legitimize itself in the eyes of the National media, rather than wilt the way that a team like Oklahoma state or ucla would be expected to do, where they may have a good year and then come on Apple sauce the following season. Have to back up last year with a really really strong performance in my mind.

That said, i would always take 10-2 with no upsets. Georgia does that each season and everyone there seems hunky dory.

Yep I agree with most of your post. A bowl win always has a way of putting a sweet finish to a long year. Crazy that 10-2 in the regular season could actually be viewed as disappointing to MSU football but this year that would be the case a little bit.

I will say that an 11-2 year would definitely still help towards our image nationally too so that would help. That would include taking care of PSU, UM and Nebraska so all in all still a solid year.

Too early to say. While it would be disappointing to lose to Ohio State in East Lansing, it is possible where we could be 7-1 and still make the Big Ten championship game.

Now, I'm sure people will say that there's no way tOSU loses two Big Ten games. But I see that tOSU is prone to being undisciplined, and it could cost them eventually.

They are still the team that was losing to Northwestern in the 4th quarter last year, still the team that was tied with Iowa in the 4th quarter last year, and still the team that very nearly lost to a terrible scUM team.

Ass Dan wrote:It would be a lot better with a bowl win. I think everyone can agree that this team can be a championship caliber team, so it would be a bitter pill to swallow knowing they didn't win the big Ten or garner national title consideration.

This is msu's year to legitimize itself in the eyes of the National media, rather than wilt the way that a team like Oklahoma state or ucla would be expected to do, where they may have a good year and then come on Apple sauce the following season. Have to back up last year with a really really strong performance in my mind.

That said, i would always take 10-2 with no upsets. Georgia does that each season and everyone there seems hunky dory.

Georgia's record the last 5 years:

8-5, 12-2, 10-4, 6-7, 8-5

Things aren't hunky dory in Athens. Georgia has a bad problem with kids getting arrested. If Georgia loses some early game, Richt might find himself on the hot seat. Georgia fans are getting sick of watching other SEC teams win National Championships.

10-2 and winning a bowl game is huge. Finish 11-2. Yeah losing to osu would blow but finishing 11-2 would be amazing after losing half our defense.
No upsets as well. I don't see how doing this would do anything but help our national image.

NigelUno wrote:

Georgia's record the last 5 years:

8-5, 12-2, 10-4, 6-7, 8-5

Things aren't hunky dory in Athens.  Georgia has a bad problem with kids getting arrested.  If Georgia loses some early game, Richt might find himself on the hot seat.  Georgia fans are getting sick of watching other SEC teams win National Championships.

yeah they are!

NigelUno wrote:

Georgia's record the last 5 years:

8-5, 12-2, 10-4, 6-7, 8-5

Things aren't hunky dory in Athens. Georgia has a bad problem with kids getting arrested. If Georgia loses some early game, Richt might find himself on the hot seat. Georgia fans are getting sick of watching other SEC teams win National Championships.

Shows how much I know about Georgia football, i guess. Who gets fired first, Paul Johnson or mark richt?

Ass Dan wrote:

NigelUno wrote:

Georgia's record the last 5 years:

8-5, 12-2, 10-4, 6-7, 8-5

Things aren't hunky dory in Athens.  Georgia has a bad problem with kids getting arrested.  If Georgia loses some early game, Richt might find himself on the hot seat.  Georgia fans are getting sick of watching other SEC teams win National Championships.

Shows how much I know about Georgia football, i guess. Who gets fired first, Paul Johnson or mark richt?

I think Ga Tech will have trouble with Johnson's buyout IIRC. They'll let his contract play out (which is done after next year I think) before they do anything.

Ass Dan wrote:

Shows how much I know about Georgia football, i guess. Who gets fired first, Paul Johnson or mark richt?

Richt has a knack for coming up with a trip to the SEC Championship every time people get restless. That might happen this year.

GT is a hard program to win at. I would guess Johnson will go first.

NigelUno wrote:

Richt has a knack for coming up with a trip to the SEC Championship every time people get restless. That might happen this year.

GT is a hard program to win at. I would guess Johnson will go first.

How do people feel about the triple option down there?

Does that mean we don't go to the Big Ten Title game?

10-2 wouldn't be ideal, but it wouldn't be unsuccessful.

NigelUno wrote:

Richt has a knack for coming up with a trip to the SEC Championship every time people get restless. That might happen this year.

GT is a hard program to win at. I would guess Johnson will go first.

Also, why is GT hard to win at? Seems like they play in an easy division, they've got a pretty stadium and they're right in Atlanta. Seems like there's nice tradition there as well. When i think "hard to win at", i think Minnesota or Washington state. Talentless states where people don't want to play

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Does that mean we don't go to the Big Ten Title game?

10-2 wouldn't be ideal, but it wouldn't be unsuccessful.

Well, I'd lock in 9-3 if that means we make the B1G title game.

If we lose to Ohio St, it;s tough seeing them lose two more games considering they dont play any of the top 3 teams from the West. But you never know.

Ass Dan wrote:

Also, why is GT hard to win at? Seems like they play in an easy division, they've got a pretty stadium and they're right in Atlanta. Seems like there's nice tradition there as well. When i think "hard to win at", i think Minnesota or Washington state. Talentless states where people don't want to play

It's an ACC school in the heart of SEC country. GT games are an after thought in Atlanta.

Johnson also runs some type of option offense which isn't seen as something that would prepare players for the NFL (that's the perception anyway, I tend to think that the NFL will find talent if it's there, but it might drop your stock a few rounds, or delay your pro development if you've never known a more traditional offense).

Ass Dan wrote:

Also, why is GT hard to win at? Seems like they play in an easy division, they've got a pretty stadium and they're right in Atlanta. Seems like there's nice tradition there as well. When i think "hard to win at", i think Minnesota or Washington state. Talentless states where people don't want to play

I think part of it has to do with the fact that they wear Russell Athletic. Recruits like Nike, Under Armour and sometimes adidas. Them going with Russell just screams afterthought college.

Plus when Russell tried to do their version of pro combats, they were mocked heavily. Honeycomb!

Giant Moose wrote:
I think part of it has to do with the fact that they wear Russell Athletic. Recruits like Nike, Under Armour and sometimes adidas. Them going with Russell just screams afterthought college.

Plus when Russell tried to do their version of pro combats, they were mocked heavily. Honeycomb!

I love the uniforms. I love the offense. I would happily play for Georgia Tech. Idk.

What if we go 11-1 with a loss only to OSU?

InTenSity wrote:What if we go 11-1 with a loss only to OSU?

  

I can never play this game as a fan. 10-2 is a great season but I am not about to start singing for losses before the season starts.

OP sucks ass

Rodeo Burger wrote:

It's an ACC school in the heart of SEC country.  GT games are an after thought in Atlanta.

GT at best is the 4th most popular school in Atlanta after UGA, Bama, and Auburn.

And they close their season every year with Georgia (which in most cases is an automatic loss).

Herbie Green wrote:I can never play this game as a fan.  10-2 is a great season but I am not about to start singing for losses before the season starts.

This all day. I'll tip my hat to anyone who beats us (unless it happens under the circumstances of the ND game last year), but I don't concede anything to anyone. They have to come take the victory from us.

The_Dude wrote:Successful season or no?

I'd say no because the 3 biggest B1G games are at home. Need to win the East.

Well we're not losing to either of those teams so go **** yourself.

Snake Plissken wrote:Well we're not losing to either of those teams so go **** yourself.

Fo sho

Giant Moose wrote:Too early to say. While it would be disappointing to lose to Ohio State in East Lansing, it is possible where we could be 7-1 and still make the Big Ten championship game.

Now, I'm sure people will say that there's no way tOSU loses two Big Ten games. But I see that tOSU is prone to being undisciplined, and it could cost them eventually.

They are still the team that was losing to Northwestern in the 4th quarter last year, still the team that was tied with Iowa in the 4th quarter last year, and still the team that very nearly lost to a terrible scUM team.

tOSU may have an edge in recruiting, but we more than make up for it with the coaching staff we have. I don't see anyone running through walls for Urb (maybe a little assault & battery). That's why losing to them in EL would be very disappointing.
Oregon is going to be the big test. If Cook continues his growth from last year, it could be a very fun game.

it's going to depend on the officiating, so I'm going to reserve judgment for now.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:it's going to depend on the officiating, so I'm going to reserve judgment for now.

It might. Good call.

NigelUno wrote:

It might.  Good call.  

no problem.. I'm known throughout the realm of sports for my keen insight..

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