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Post by MiamiSpartan 2023-01-06, 06:45

Unless the FBI gets involved for some reason, I'm skeptical that the NCAA will find anything.
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Post by Trapper Gus 2023-01-06, 09:00

Turtleneck wrote:How many wins will the NCAA take from MSU over this?

The B1G will probably reduce the number of MSU scholarships.
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Post by NigelUno 2023-01-06, 09:11

Nordic wrote:Obsession - the tears of my enemies. - Page 2 2599972566

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Would love to know his source on this.

Warde?
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Post by Trapper Gus 2023-01-06, 09:22

Nordic wrote:Obsession - the tears of my enemies. - Page 2 2599972566

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So the NCAA slaps Harbs wrist as he bolts for the NFL?
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Post by NigelUno 2023-01-06, 09:30

Probably not good for UM, if even Angelique is reporting on it.

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Post by Turtleneck 2023-01-06, 09:34

MiamiSpartan wrote:Unless the FBI gets involved for some reason, I'm skeptical that the NCAA will find anything.  



I don’t think the recruiting violations are the real problem. The primary issue is that the arrogant and entitled Jim Harbaugh lied and intentionally misled investigators because he thinks rules don’t apply to him.

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Post by kingstonlake 2023-01-06, 09:39

He'd never lie about Bo or Dr Anderson, though.
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Post by Turtleneck 2023-01-06, 09:40

NigelUno wrote:Probably not good for UM, if even Angelique is reporting on it.

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I wonder how many apology emails she sent to UM people after submitting the article to the editor for publication.

“I didn’t want to write the article, I preferred to help you sweep it under the rug, but my horrible employer decided to make me cover the actual news this time. It’s horrible and please understand how difficult it was for me to report on this.”
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Post by Dendrobates 2023-01-06, 10:05

Trapper Gus wrote:
Nordic wrote:Obsession - the tears of my enemies. - Page 2 2599972566

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So the NCAA slaps Harbs wrist as he bolts for the NFL?

I want the book thrown at UM no matter what.
But from what I heard of the violations, they really seem lame. Unless I am misunderstanding something. It seems like it blown up unnecessarily.
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Post by Trapper Gus 2023-01-06, 10:09

Dendrobates wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

So the NCAA slaps Harbs wrist as he bolts for the NFL?

I want the book thrown at UM no matter what.
But from what I heard of the violations, they really seem lame. Unless I am misunderstanding something. It seems like it blown up unnecessarily.

We all do, I think, but it isn't going to happen, they are the protected darlings of the B1G and the NCAA.
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Post by kingstonlake 2023-01-06, 10:17

Please take into account coach Harbaugh is on record as willing to adopt any children his players father while at UM instead of them choosing abortion. They will he raised properly without chicken and plenty of milk. They will also be given drivers education classes at age sixteen at the Warde Manuel school of driving. Head instructor the highly accredited Jeff Jackson.

Please keep this in mind when speaking ill of coach.
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Post by NigelUno 2023-01-06, 10:33

Dendrobates wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

So the NCAA slaps Harbs wrist as he bolts for the NFL?

I want the book thrown at UM no matter what.
But from what I heard of the violations, they really seem lame. Unless I am misunderstanding something. It seems like it blown up unnecessarily.

It's the cover up. Not the crime.

Sounds like Harbaugh lied to investigators (and my guess is he lied to UM's investigators as well). Harbaugh is probably pissed that UM wouldn't lie for him (and reported the violations). His relationship with Warde is already tenuous at best. Seems like someone at UM is releasing the details. This may not end well for one of them.
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Post by Dendrobates 2023-01-06, 10:49

NigelUno wrote:
Dendrobates wrote:

I want the book thrown at UM no matter what.
But from what I heard of the violations, they really seem lame. Unless I am misunderstanding something. It seems like it blown up unnecessarily.

It's the cover up.  Not the crime.  

Sounds like Harbaugh lied to investigators (and my guess is he lied to UM's investigators as well).  Harbaugh is probably pissed that UM wouldn't lie for him (and reported the violations).  His relationship with Warde is already tenuous at best.  Seems like someone at UM is releasing the details.  This may not end well for one of them.  

I get that violation is bad, lying about the other stuff. My question is, why lie about the other violations? They’re so minor, and frankly, seem pointless for anyone.

And the media is hyping this up so much. Why this thing, over all the other stuff? I just don’t get it. Fuck Michigan. I hope they get shit fucked up regardless.
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Post by Trapper Gus 2023-01-06, 11:03

Dendrobates wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

It's the cover up.  Not the crime.  

Sounds like Harbaugh lied to investigators (and my guess is he lied to UM's investigators as well).  Harbaugh is probably pissed that UM wouldn't lie for him (and reported the violations).  His relationship with Warde is already tenuous at best.  Seems like someone at UM is releasing the details.  This may not end well for one of them.  

I get that violation is bad, lying about the other stuff. My question is, why lie about the other violations? They’re so minor, and frankly, seem pointless for anyone.

And the media is hyping this up so much. Why this thing, over all the other stuff? I just don’t get it. Fuck Michigan. I hope they get shit fucked up regardless.

Someone at M wants Harbs gone?
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Post by NigelUno 2023-01-06, 11:05

Dendrobates wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

It's the cover up.  Not the crime.  

Sounds like Harbaugh lied to investigators (and my guess is he lied to UM's investigators as well).  Harbaugh is probably pissed that UM wouldn't lie for him (and reported the violations).  His relationship with Warde is already tenuous at best.  Seems like someone at UM is releasing the details.  This may not end well for one of them.  

I get that violation is bad, lying about the other stuff. My question is, why lie about the other violations? They’re so minor, and frankly, seem pointless for anyone.

And the media is hyping this up so much. Why this thing, over all the other stuff? I just don’t get it. Fuck Michigan. I hope they get shit fucked up regardless.

Harbaugh would lie to protect the brand (his and UM's).  And maybe he lied because he thought they would just get away with it, and that any potential violations would impact his contract negotiations/extension with UM (last year).  

Harbaugh admittedly eventually rubs people the wrong way.  Maybe Warde has reached that point and is releasing the details, because he's sick of Harbaugh (again) basically using the NFL to get a better deal from UM.

I would be shocked if he's given a suspension.  But, if he is...Warde has an out as far as giving him (another) raise.  Maybe that makes Harbaugh beg for the Colts job.

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Post by NigelUno 2023-01-06, 11:08

Trapper Gus wrote:
Dendrobates wrote:

I get that violation is bad, lying about the other stuff. My question is, why lie about the other violations? They’re so minor, and frankly, seem pointless for anyone.

And the media is hyping this up so much. Why this thing, over all the other stuff? I just don’t get it. Fuck Michigan. I hope they get shit fucked up regardless.

Someone at M wants Harbs gone?

That certainly makes sense if someone at UM is releasing the details. Or at minimum they just want Harbaugh to look bad (and not have to give him more cash).
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Post by NigelUno 2023-01-06, 11:16

Or maybe someone at UM releases the details in an effort to show how ridiculous the violations are, and then UM makes a big stink about it if Harbaugh is suspended (as a show of support to keep him around).

I could see Angelique working this angle as part of their PR machine.
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Post by Turtleneck 2023-01-06, 11:34

Dendrobates wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

It's the cover up.  Not the crime.  

Sounds like Harbaugh lied to investigators (and my guess is he lied to UM's investigators as well).  Harbaugh is probably pissed that UM wouldn't lie for him (and reported the violations).  His relationship with Warde is already tenuous at best.  Seems like someone at UM is releasing the details.  This may not end well for one of them.  

I get that violation is bad, lying about the other stuff. My question is, why lie about the other violations? They’re so minor, and frankly, seem pointless for anyone.

And the media is hyping this up so much. Why this thing, over all the other stuff? I just don’t get it. Fuck Michigan. I hope they get shit fucked up regardless.

It's easy to do when you don't think the rules apply to you.
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Post by Dendrobates 2023-01-06, 12:45

NigelUno wrote:Or maybe someone at UM releases the details in an effort to show how ridiculous the violations are, and then UM makes a big stink about it if Harbaugh is suspended (as a show of support to keep him around).  

I could see Angelique working this angle as part of their PR machine.

Now this is what I see happening.
Best damn PR.
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Post by Turtleneck 2023-01-06, 12:52

NigelUno wrote:Or maybe someone at UM releases the details in an effort to show how ridiculous the violations are, and then UM makes a big stink about it if Harbaugh is suspended (as a show of support to keep him around).  

I could see Angelique working this angle as part of their PR machine.

The problem is, while the violations are minor, releasing the details also means outing him for lying to investigators. That is harder to downplay.
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Post by NigelUno 2023-01-06, 14:12

Turtleneck wrote:
NigelUno wrote:Or maybe someone at UM releases the details in an effort to show how ridiculous the violations are, and then UM makes a big stink about it if Harbaugh is suspended (as a show of support to keep him around).  

I could see Angelique working this angle as part of their PR machine.

The problem is, while the violations are minor, releasing the details also means outing him for lying to investigators. That is harder to downplay.

Downplay: How am I supposed to remember who I had lunch with? I don't remember what I had for breakfast.

(Media laughs uproariously.)

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Post by Floyd Robertson 2023-01-06, 14:29

NigelUno wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:

The problem is, while the violations are minor, releasing the details also means outing him for lying to investigators. That is harder to downplay.

Downplay:  How am I supposed to remember who I had lunch with?   I don't remember what I had for breakfast.  

(Media laughs uproariously.)


I thought it was always a bowl of cheerios swimming in OJ?
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Post by AvgMSUJoe 2023-01-06, 15:02

NigelUno wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:

The problem is, while the violations are minor, releasing the details also means outing him for lying to investigators. That is harder to downplay.

Downplay:  How am I supposed to remember who I had lunch with?   I don't remember what I had for breakfast.  

(Media laughs uproariously.)


Wojo blushes a bit. Mitch punches him on the shoulder... ha,ha,ha that Jim... amiright?

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Shit, that's what they did when it was brought up Bo sent kids to the sexual assault doc as punishment.

ha, ha, ha... that wacky Jim wouldn't lie to us... amiright?
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Post by NigelUno 2023-01-06, 15:44

AvgMSUJoe wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

Downplay:  How am I supposed to remember who I had lunch with?   I don't remember what I had for breakfast.  

(Media laughs uproariously.)


Wojo blushes a bit. Mitch punches him on the shoulder... ha,ha,ha that Jim... amiright?

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Shit, that's what they did when it was brought up Bo sent kids to the sexual assault doc as punishment.

ha, ha, ha... that wacky Jim wouldn't lie to us... amiright?  

The guy stood at a podium and railed about MSU players being punished to the fullest extent of the law, while he (and the AD and school President) played a part in squashing a felony charge from their own guy.

They've lost any moral high ground, but they don't care. They'll just PR spin some whataboutism to maintain their holier than thou bullshit.
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Post by Trapper Gus 2023-01-06, 18:31

NigelUno wrote:
AvgMSUJoe wrote:

Wojo blushes a bit. Mitch punches him on the shoulder... ha,ha,ha that Jim... amiright?

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Shit, that's what they did when it was brought up Bo sent kids to the sexual assault doc as punishment.

ha, ha, ha... that wacky Jim wouldn't lie to us... amiright?  

The guy stood at a podium and railed about MSU players being punished to the fullest extent of the law, while he (and the AD and school President) played a part in squashing a felony charge from their own guy.  

They've lost any moral high ground, but they don't care.  They'll just PR spin some whataboutism to maintain their holier than thou bullshit.  

Michigan should be banned for football for 5 years.
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Post by NigelUno 2023-01-06, 18:39

Trapper Gus wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

The guy stood at a podium and railed about MSU players being punished to the fullest extent of the law, while he (and the AD and school President) played a part in squashing a felony charge from their own guy.  

They've lost any moral high ground, but they don't care.  They'll just PR spin some whataboutism to maintain their holier than thou bullshit.  

Michigan should be banned for football for 5 years.

At least.
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Post by Floyd Robertson 2023-01-06, 18:54

They should get the death penalty. In other words, when I'm dead, they can resurrect their football program.
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Post by gomersbro 2023-01-08, 09:57

Floyd Robertson wrote:They should get the death penalty. In other words, when I'm dead, they can resurrect their football program.

And may you live to be 1000 years old.
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Post by NigelUno 2023-01-08, 10:34

Cancel the Broncos/Harbaugh interview?

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Post by AvgMSUJoe 2023-01-08, 10:43

Rumors are like assholes, everyo.... wait, that's not right.
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Post by Turtleneck 2023-01-08, 10:59

gomersbro wrote:
Floyd Robertson wrote:They should get the death penalty. In other words, when I'm dead, they can resurrect their football program.

And may you live to be 1000 years old.

Screw that. May you live forever, Floyd.
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Post by Turtleneck 2023-01-08, 11:04

NigelUno wrote:[tw]1612042092905111552[/tw]


Lol. He is actively trying to find a new job.

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Post by NigelUno 2023-01-09, 11:11

Michigan to lose top TE Luke Schoonmaker to 2023 NFL draft

Maybe re-thinking acting like jackasses and shoving All into the portal.
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Post by DWags 2023-01-09, 16:37

NigelUno wrote:Michigan to lose top TE Luke Schoonmaker to 2023 NFL draft

Maybe re-thinking acting like jackasses and shoving All into the portal.

Their freshman is real good. Plus Blake Corum just said he’s coming back. Good I want to beat him at Spartan Stadium
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Post by NigelUno 2023-01-09, 18:28

DWags wrote:
NigelUno wrote:Michigan to lose top TE Luke Schoonmaker to 2023 NFL draft

Maybe re-thinking acting like jackasses and shoving All into the portal.

Their freshman is real good. Plus Blake Corum just said he’s coming back. Good I want to beat him at Spartan Stadium

We'll have to see if the OL and his knee are the same.
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Post by Nordic 2023-01-09, 19:20

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OTPT, you gotta take one for the team
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Mazi Six Shooter Smith and Mike Morris are both declaring for the draft.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/2023/01/09/edge-rusher-mike-morris-leaves-michigan-wolverines-for-nfl-draft/69792555007/
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