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Local (Queer Owned) Coffee Shop - Strange Matter - Closes After Receiving a 10 Page Letter Threatening Violence
Hey, everyone.
Out of an abundance of caution, we'll be closed at both of our shops for a few days.
We received a ten page letter, postmarked over two weeks ago, containing specific dates, images of hate, and threatening phrases.
Another queer-identified coffee shop received a similar letter in Detroit. While several of the dates identified in the letter have already passed, we are opting for caution for the sake of our staff and customers.
We will update our Instagram account when we have more information about reopening. - Cara
I'm sure 'pro-life' republicans are outraged by this.
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What’s the coffee shop Bob
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Wow. Two options, don’t go in the shop, or write a ten page letter filled with hate and threats. Hmmmm. Not surprised by the choice. I’d be more surprised if it wasn’t from a Christian who loves Trump.
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I might be safer to reopen next week. If I'm not mistaken, this Saturday is actually the Nazi national day of hate and many organizations have issued warnings.
It's sad that they win when they cause this change in behavior just to be safe.
It's sad that they win when they cause this change in behavior just to be safe.
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Probably just someone at Beaner's trying to boost their business.
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Strange Matter.Travis of the Cosmos wrote:What’s the coffee shop Bob
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and with all of the hate-filled, bigoted legislation being introduced and signed into law by mainstream christian republicans, this sort of thing is not at all shocking.
in fact, this sort of thing is a promoted feature of their language, their ideology. As we've seen with mass shootings, school shootings, etc - they absolve themselves of any responsibility for sewing the seeds of hate and then nurturing them into violence.
this is what the mainstream christian republican party stands for.. this is what they want.
don't believe me? Sit back and wait for one of our upstanding republican posters to unequivocally denounce this sort of thing without caveat or qualification.
in fact, this sort of thing is a promoted feature of their language, their ideology. As we've seen with mass shootings, school shootings, etc - they absolve themselves of any responsibility for sewing the seeds of hate and then nurturing them into violence.
this is what the mainstream christian republican party stands for.. this is what they want.
don't believe me? Sit back and wait for one of our upstanding republican posters to unequivocally denounce this sort of thing without caveat or qualification.
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Robert J Sakimano wrote:
don't believe me?
Nope.
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RQA wrote:Robert J Sakimano wrote:
don't believe me?
Nope.
You don’t believe the story?
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Motown Spartan wrote:RQA wrote:
Nope.
You don’t believe the story?
Oh, I believe the story. I just don't believe Bob's narrative about all the hate legislation being passed by Republicans and signed into law.
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RQA wrote:Motown Spartan wrote:
You don’t believe the story?
Oh, I believe the story. I just don't believe Bob's narrative about all the hate legislation being passed by Republicans and signed into law.
Tell me you’re out of touch with reality by actually telling me you’re out of touch with reality.
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The mainstream media finally picked up the story.
Caution: Mainstream Media Link
Caution: Mainstream Media Link
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Motown Spartan wrote:RQA wrote:
Oh, I believe the story. I just don't believe Bob's narrative about all the hate legislation being passed by Republicans and signed into law.
Tell me you’re out of touch with reality by actually telling me you’re out of touch with reality.
Seems like he has been posted in another thread defending laws being passed which do what he is claiming here do not exist. His lack of awareness is astounding.
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RQA wrote:Motown Spartan wrote:
You don’t believe the story?
Oh, I believe the story. I just don't believe Bob's narrative about all the hate legislation being passed by Republicans and signed into law.
Where can we find proof?
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How about this link
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told ya.Robert J Sakimano wrote:and with all of the hate-filled, bigoted legislation being introduced and signed into law by mainstream christian republicans, this sort of thing is not at all shocking.
in fact, this sort of thing is a promoted feature of their language, their ideology. As we've seen with mass shootings, school shootings, etc - they absolve themselves of any responsibility for sewing the seeds of hate and then nurturing them into violence.
this is what the mainstream christian republican party stands for.. this is what they want.
don't believe me? Sit back and wait for one of our upstanding republican posters to unequivocally denounce this sort of thing without caveat or qualification.
Seems like it should pretty easy for decent people to denounce threats of violence.
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Trapper Gus wrote:Motown Spartan wrote:
Tell me you’re out of touch with reality by actually telling me you’re out of touch with reality.
Seems like he has been posted in another thread defending laws being passed which do what he is claiming here do not exist. His lack of awareness is astounding.
There is also a second possibility. He knows and he’s lying. Hmmmm does he have a proclivity for that?
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DWags wrote:Trapper Gus wrote:
Seems like he has been posted in another thread defending laws being passed which do what he is claiming here do not exist. His lack of awareness is astounding.
There is also a second possibility. He knows and he’s lying. Hmmmm does he have a proclivity for that?
He never seems to address what the Republicans are doing, good or bad, only mocks the liberals, why is that?
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Robert J Sakimano wrote:told ya.Robert J Sakimano wrote:and with all of the hate-filled, bigoted legislation being introduced and signed into law by mainstream christian republicans, this sort of thing is not at all shocking.
in fact, this sort of thing is a promoted feature of their language, their ideology. As we've seen with mass shootings, school shootings, etc - they absolve themselves of any responsibility for sewing the seeds of hate and then nurturing them into violence.
this is what the mainstream christian republican party stands for.. this is what they want.
don't believe me? Sit back and wait for one of our upstanding republican posters to unequivocally denounce this sort of thing without caveat or qualification.
Seems like it should pretty easy for decent people to denounce threats of violence.
You seem really big on people making declarations about common sense things. What's next? Clean air and water is good? Violence is bad? Kittens are cute?
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TravelinMan wrote:Robert J Sakimano wrote:
told ya.
Seems like it should pretty easy for decent people to denounce threats of violence.
You seem really big on people making declarations about common sense things. What's next? Clean air and water is good? Violence is bad? Kittens are cute?
When there is one political party declaring that common sense things are not only bad, but must be destroyed, someone has to stand up and oppose them.
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I agree.TravelinMan wrote:Robert J Sakimano wrote:
told ya.
Seems like it should pretty easy for decent people to denounce threats of violence.
You seem really big on people making declarations about common sense things. What's next? Clean air and water is good? Violence is bad? Kittens are cute?
see.. when you're a decent person with a respect for humanity and not beholden to political/religious ideology, it's pretty easy to just say "I agree" with the "common sense" things you speak of.
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Robert J Sakimano wrote:I agree.TravelinMan wrote:
You seem really big on people making declarations about common sense things. What's next? Clean air and water is good? Violence is bad? Kittens are cute?
see.. when you're a decent person with a respect for humanity and not beholden to political/religious ideology, it's pretty easy to just say "I agree" with the "common sense" things you speak of.
Also, if one doesn’t denounce racism and hate, don’t tell me their silence does.
It doesn’t.
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the silence from the 'pro-life' christian right says everything.DWags wrote:Robert J Sakimano wrote: I agree.
see.. when you're a decent person with a respect for humanity and not beholden to political/religious ideology, it's pretty easy to just say "I agree" with the "common sense" things you speak of.
Also, if one doesn’t denounce racism and hate, don’t tell me their silence does.
It doesn’t.
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Robert J Sakimano wrote:the silence from the 'pro-life' christian right says everything.DWags wrote:
Also, if one doesn’t denounce racism and hate, don’t tell me their silence does.
It doesn’t.
Again, other than possibly RQA, I'm not sure there's anyone here posting that matches your description.
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I suspect there are handful of knuckle-scrapers floating around here. Some got tired of having to defend their racist, bigoted, christian heroes and left. I imagine it would be exhausting having a bright light shining on your christian nationalism, racism and bigotry.TravelinMan wrote:Robert J Sakimano wrote: the silence from the 'pro-life' christian right says everything.
Again, other than possibly RQA, I'm not sure there's anyone here posting that matches your description.
others tell us exactly who they are with their silence. And as much as it hurts their feelings and folks like you, for whatever reason, don't understand it, I will always shine a light on their disgusting christian brand that promotes violence via racism, bigotry and hate.
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TravelinMan wrote:Robert J Sakimano wrote: the silence from the 'pro-life' christian right says everything.
Again, other than possibly RQA, I'm not sure there's anyone here posting that matches your description.
Pantry is conservative in belief, and politically seems programed by the right-wing media, though I haven't noticed a Christian streak from him.
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Trapper Gus wrote:TravelinMan wrote:
Again, other than possibly RQA, I'm not sure there's anyone here posting that matches your description.
Pantry is conservative in belief, and politically seems programed by the right-wing media, though I haven't noticed a Christian streak from him.
But the 'pro-life Christians' are driving the bus.
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Motown Spartan wrote:Trapper Gus wrote:
Pantry is conservative in belief, and politically seems programed by the right-wing media, though I haven't noticed a Christian streak from him.
But the 'pro-life Christians' are driving the bus.
Excellent point - plus one
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and they're as far from 'pro-life' as one could possibly be... as evidenced even in this thread.Motown Spartan wrote:Trapper Gus wrote:
Pantry is conservative in belief, and politically seems programed by the right-wing media, though I haven't noticed a Christian streak from him.
But the 'pro-life Christians' are driving the bus.
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