Re: tOfficial 2024 Celebrity/Notable Deaths Thread

[tGreenWay]

First, you bring up a great point about who her nda is with. As for paying off people to keep quiet? I have a feeling that’s been going on as long as there’s been rich people.

Here's the other thing that makes this seem a bit sus. I assume her boss signed an NDA to get the check....and then 2 minutes later he breaks that and spills the beans to her?

Also, while you're right that bribing has been going on forever, I don't know that they would care about bribing the families in an age where no one believed the woman when accusing someone famous. Bribe the cops, prosecutors, etc.? Sure. Hell, probably wouldn't even need to spend anything. Work the old boys network, maybe give out a few comp tickets or have OJ attend someone's kid's birthday party, and poof! "Sorry, ma'am, there isn't enough evidence, so it would just be your word against his and no jury is going to convict him." A fucked up time, but that's how it was.

The way I interpreted it, her NDA was simply about the two lawyers ever being there. She got paid to forget there was ever a meeting.

[tGreenWay]

Kato Kaelin thinks O.J. Simpson was guilty, wonders if he did penance before his death

Still blows my mind he was acquitted of murder charges but found liable in civil court?  How the hell can that happen?  

O.J. Simpson Died $114M in Debt to Ron Goldman’s Family — and Legal Battle Looms, Attorney Says

There’s a higher threshold for a criminal conviction. It has to be ‘beyond a reasonable doubt’. I think the threshold in civil trials is ‘a preponderance of evidence’ but I could be wrong about that.
In criminal cases, the jury verdict must be unanimous. I don’t know if that’s the same in civil trials.

[The Pantry]

Did not know Simpson had a daughter that drowned in a pool before she was 2 years old.

O.J. Simpson, football great whose trial for murder became a phenomenon, dies at 76

[tGreenWay]

Pretty sure I didn’t know that, either.

[Trapper Gus]

ROME (AP) — Italian fashion designer Roberto Cavalli, known for a flamboyant, glamorous style and textile innovations, has died at age 83, his company announced Friday.

[Pervis Muldoon]

ROME (AP) — Italian fashion designer Roberto Cavalli, known for a flamboyant, glamorous style and textile innovations, has died at age 83, his company announced Friday.

He said, "If it's not crazy, it's not fashion." Which is exactly what I say when I wear my crotchless corduroys.

[tGreenWay]

ROME (AP) — Italian fashion designer Roberto Cavalli, known for a flamboyant, glamorous style and textile innovations, has died at age 83, his company announced Friday.

He said, "If it's not crazy, it's not fashion." Which is exactly what I say when I wear my crotchless corduroys.

Cords and crotchless? That’s a lot of unnecessary friction.

[Pervis Muldoon]

He said, "If it's not crazy, it's not fashion." Which is exactly what I say when I wear my crotchless corduroys.

Cords and crotchless? That’s a lot of unnecessary friction.

Unnecessary but delicious.

[tGreenWay]

Cords and crotchless? That’s a lot of unnecessary friction.

Unnecessary but delicious.

Skin rash in the crotch smells especially scrumptious. And if you can get your head down there, you can really feel the heat radiating.

[Trapper Gus]

Faith Ringgold, an American artist best known for her "story quilts," passed away yesterday at her home in Englewood, New Jersey. She was 93.

[kingstonlake]

Whitey Herzog.

[Trapper Gus]

https://apnews.com/article/bob-graham-dies-obituary-florida-senator-governor-80c4f1609e314eff981fcfae7d0b32ba

[kingstonlake]

Dickie Betts.

https://www.guitarplayer.com/news/dickey-betts-dies-age-80

[Floyd Robertson]

Dickie Betts.

https://www.guitarplayer.com/news/dickey-betts-dies-age-80

Guitar God. RIP.

[Zurn]

Betts wrote and was the lead vocal on the great Allman Brothers hit "Ramblin' Man". It topped the charts at #2, kept out of #1 by Cher and "Half Breed". Betts was born close to Hwy 41.

[tGreenWay]

RIP. Dude was a legend.

[tGreenWay]

Dr. Werner Spitz, forensic pathologist and professor at Wayne State University.

Dr. Spitz became something of a celebrity medical examiner throughout his career, having consulted on and/or testified in some of the most covered deaths and biggest trials in our nation’s history, including JFK, MLK Jr., OJ Simpson, Caylee Anthony, JonBenet Ramsay, and Phil Spector. He was 97.


https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2024/04/17/werner-spitz-forensic-pathologists-death/73330715007/

[Trapper Gus]

https://www.turfnet.com/news.html/vargas-made-a-career-of-defying-the-status-quo-r1985/

[DWags]

Roman Gabriel

[MiamiSpartan]

Roman Gabriel

Also known as a headhunter on Gilligan's Island.

[tGreenWay]

Roman Gabriel

Also known as a headhunter on Gilligan's Island.

Also promoter of fine foods:

[tGreenWay]

Terry Anderson, former AP reporter. He was 76. Anderson was held hostage for seven years by Shiite Muslims in Lebanon affiliated with Hezbollah.


https://apnews.com/article/c266353298c04dbf874ab4d94536f2b3

[tGreenWay]

Larry Dalrymple, aka Larry the Barfly. Larry was found dead while sitting at the bar in Moe’s Tavern on Sunday night, surrounded — though ignored — by his friends, including Homer Simpson. Larry was one of the original characters on The Simpson’s, though making only a couple of appearances over the 34 year run of the series.


https://nypost.com/2024/04/23/entertainment/the-simpsons-killed-off-a-34-year-old-character-and-fans-are-shocked/amp/

[kingstonlake]

Peter Oosterhuis, two time open championship runner up, longtime voice at the masters.

[Floyd Robertson]

Groundbreaking American guitarist Duane Eddy dies age 86

[Trapper Gus]

https://apnews.com/article/bernard-hill-actor-dies-lord-rings-titanic-e361747aabebbd998edc0431199cb96e

[Robert J Sakimano]

https://apnews.com/article/bernard-hill-actor-dies-lord-rings-titanic-e361747aabebbd998edc0431199cb96e

for a long time, up until maybe 4-5 years ago, I thought "Lord of the Rings" and "Harry Potter" were the same thing.

kinda like.. "Lord of the Rings - The Legend of Harry Potter's Sword".

not really my genre.

[Zurn]

Darrius Morris, former Michigan basketball player, died over the weekend at the age of 33. Cause of death was not released. Had a middling NBA career tainted by domestic abuse accusations that were later recanted by the accuser.

[Trapper Gus]

https://apnews.com/article/bernard-hill-actor-dies-lord-rings-titanic-e361747aabebbd998edc0431199cb96e

for a long time, up until maybe 4-5 years ago, I thought "Lord of the Rings" and "Harry Potter" were the same thing.

kinda like.. "Lord of the Rings - The Legend of Harry Potter's Sword".

not really my genre.

There are two fantasy stories that most teenage boys read, The Fountainhead & Lord of the Rings.  One has unbelievable hero's doing impossible things which has no connections to reality, and the other has orcs.

[Robert J Sakimano]

for a long time, up until maybe 4-5 years ago, I thought "Lord of the Rings" and "Harry Potter" were the same thing.

kinda like.. "Lord of the Rings - The Legend of Harry Potter's Sword".

not really my genre.

There are two fantasy stories that most teenage boys read, The Fountainhead & Lord of the Rings.  One has unbelievable hero's doing impossible things which has no connections to reality, and the other has orcs.

pretty sure the kid read Harry Potter stuff. Probably the Lord of the Rings stuff, too.

and my wife has read the Lord of the Rings books (I think there's more than one) - I went with her to see one of the movies and every time I woke up this group of dudes were walking. And they'd keep walking.

even an hour later, I'd wake up again and they were still walking.

[Trapper Gus]

There are two fantasy stories that most teenage boys read, The Fountainhead & Lord of the Rings.  One has unbelievable hero's doing impossible things which has no connections to reality, and the other has orcs.

pretty sure the kid read Harry Potter stuff. Probably the Lord of the Rings stuff, too.

and my wife has read the Lord of the Rings books (I think there's more than one) - I went with her to see one of the movies and every time I woke up this group of dudes were walking. And they'd keep walking.

even an hour later, I'd wake up again and they were still walking.

Both the Potter series & the LOTR series are analogies of the Christ story. Both of them intentionally.

[Robert J Sakimano]

pretty sure the kid read Harry Potter stuff. Probably the Lord of the Rings stuff, too.

and my wife has read the Lord of the Rings books (I think there's more than one) - I went with her to see one of the movies and every time I woke up this group of dudes were walking. And they'd keep walking.

even an hour later, I'd wake up again and they were still walking.

Both the Potter series & the LOTR series are analogies of the Christ story. Both of them intentionally.

not familiar with that one, either.

[Heat Miser]

There are two fantasy stories that most teenage boys read, The Fountainhead & Lord of the Rings.  One has unbelievable hero's doing impossible things which has no connections to reality, and the other has orcs.

pretty sure the kid read Harry Potter stuff. Probably the Lord of the Rings stuff, too.

and my wife has read the Lord of the Rings books (I think there's more than one) - I went with her to see one of the movies and every time I woke up this group of dudes were walking. And they'd keep walking.

even an hour later, I'd wake up again and they were still walking.

Both the Potter series & the LOTR series are analogies of the Christ story. Both of them intentionally.

Christianity is a central theme in J. R. R. Tolkien's fictional works about Middle-earth, but the specifics are always kept hidden. This allows for the books' meaning to be personally interpreted by the reader, instead of the author detailing a strict, set meaning.

J. R. R. Tolkien was a devout Roman Catholic from boyhood, and he described The Lord of the Rings in particular as a "fundamentally religious and Catholic work; unconsciously so at first, but consciously in the revision".[1][T 1] While he insisted it was not an allegory, it contains numerous themes from Christian theology. These include the battle of good versus evil, the triumph of humility over pride, and the activity of grace. A central theme is death and immortality, with light as a symbol of divine creation, but Tolkien's attitudes as to mercy and pity, resurrection, the Eucharist, salvation, repentance, self-sacrifice, free will, justice, fellowship, authority and healing can also be detected. Divine providence appears indirectly as the will of the Valar, godlike immortals, expressed subtly enough to avoid compromising people's free will. The Silmarillion embodies a detailed narrative of the splintering of the original created light, and of the fall of man in the shape of several incidents including the Akallabêth (The Downfall of Númenor).

There is no single Christ-figure comparable to C. S. Lewis's Aslan in his Narnia books, but the characters of Gandalf, Frodo, and Aragorn exemplify the threefold office, the prophetic, priestly, and kingly aspects of Christ respectively.

[Motown Spartan]

Both the Potter series & the LOTR series are analogies of the Christ story. Both of them intentionally.

Christianity is a central theme in J. R. R. Tolkien's fictional works about Middle-earth, but the specifics are always kept hidden. This allows for the books' meaning to be personally interpreted by the reader, instead of the author detailing a strict, set meaning.

J. R. R. Tolkien was a devout Roman Catholic from boyhood, and he described The Lord of the Rings in particular as a "fundamentally religious and Catholic work; unconsciously so at first, but consciously in the revision".[1][T 1] While he insisted it was not an allegory, it contains numerous themes from Christian theology. These include the battle of good versus evil, the triumph of humility over pride, and the activity of grace. A central theme is death and immortality, with light as a symbol of divine creation, but Tolkien's attitudes as to mercy and pity, resurrection, the Eucharist, salvation, repentance, self-sacrifice, free will, justice, fellowship, authority and healing can also be detected. Divine providence appears indirectly as the will of the Valar, godlike immortals, expressed subtly enough to avoid compromising people's free will. The Silmarillion embodies a detailed narrative of the splintering of the original created light, and of the fall of man in the shape of several incidents including the Akallabêth (The Downfall of Númenor).

There is no single Christ-figure comparable to C. S. Lewis's Aslan in his Narnia books, but the characters of Gandalf, Frodo, and Aragorn exemplify the threefold office, the prophetic, priestly, and kingly aspects of Christ respectively.

Sam > Frodo

[Trapper Gus]

Both the Potter series & the LOTR series are analogies of the Christ story.  Both of them intentionally.

Christianity is a central theme in J. R. R. Tolkien's fictional works about Middle-earth, but the specifics are always kept hidden. This allows for the books' meaning to be personally interpreted by the reader, instead of the author detailing a strict, set meaning.

J. R. R. Tolkien was a devout Roman Catholic from boyhood, and he described The Lord of the Rings in particular as a "fundamentally religious and Catholic work; unconsciously so at first, but consciously in the revision".[1][T 1] While he insisted it was not an allegory, it contains numerous themes from Christian theology. These include the battle of good versus evil, the triumph of humility over pride, and the activity of grace. A central theme is death and immortality, with light as a symbol of divine creation, but Tolkien's attitudes as to mercy and pity, resurrection, the Eucharist, salvation, repentance, self-sacrifice, free will, justice, fellowship, authority and healing can also be detected. Divine providence appears indirectly as the will of the Valar, godlike immortals, expressed subtly enough to avoid compromising people's free will. The Silmarillion embodies a detailed narrative of the splintering of the original created light, and of the fall of man in the shape of several incidents including the Akallabêth (The Downfall of Númenor).

There is no single Christ-figure comparable to C. S. Lewis's Aslan in his Narnia books, but the characters of Gandalf, Frodo, and Aragorn exemplify the threefold office, the prophetic, priestly, and kingly aspects of Christ respectively.

A better word I should have used would have been "copies".  JRR hate "allegory" as a form of writing. JRR likely would consider it sacrilegious to write an allegory of the Chirt story.

I feel that Frodo is close enough to a Christlike figure to make JRR's protestations somewhat weak, though as the author he may have created something he didn't intend to create.

The Narnia series is also different in detail from the Christ story, though the Lion, is it God or is it Christ, and its Island, are a closer copy to a Christian "God".

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