Motion to remove Nigel Uno as Spartan Swill Secretary-General

Rook wrote:SRC:  The Charter Reads:

The Ephorate, will be elected by the Gerousia every even year, in the first month of OT season.  The process is TBD but voting will be conducted in the same way we always do.  There are no limits to the number of terms an Ephor can server, nor the sequence in which he/she serves them.  ALL EPHORATE POSTIONS ARE GRANTED BY ELECTION (yes, including mine) except in special circumstances, including, but not limited to, the resignation or early termination of a standing Ephor, the formation of the initial Ephorate, the replacement of an Ephor in the case of negligence or apathy toward his or her duty, the replacement of an Ephor due to a permaban.  


See my underlines.  The Charter clear anticipates the ability to remove a Ephor early in the case of negligence or apathy toward his/her duty.  Otherwise why have a provision to select a new Ephor in such events.    There are gaps in the language or the charter on how such removal is performed, but when powers are not specified to a managing body, the Members retain such powers.  Thus the only logical reading of this language is that the voting members have the authority to remove any standing Ephor if they collectively deem there to be negligence or apathy toward duties.  Being there is no provision to create supermajority voting on this issue (being silent) simple majority rules.

Rook wrote:SRC:  The Charter Reads:

The Ephorate, will be elected by the Gerousia every even year, in the first month of OT season.  The process is TBD but voting will be conducted in the same way we always do.  There are no limits to the number of terms an Ephor can server, nor the sequence in which he/she serves them.  ALL EPHORATE POSTIONS ARE GRANTED BY ELECTION (yes, including mine) except in special circumstances, including, but not limited to, the resignation or early termination of a standing Ephor, the formation of the initial Ephorate, the replacement of an Ephor in the case of negligence or apathy toward his or her duty, the replacement of an Ephor due to a permaban.  


See my underlines.  The Charter clear anticipates the ability to remove a Ephor early in the case of negligence or apathy toward his/her duty.  Otherwise why have a provision to select a new Ephor in such events.    There are gaps in the language or the charter on how such removal is performed, but when powers are not specified to a managing body, the Members retain such powers.  Thus the only logical reading of this language is that the voting members have the authority to remove any standing Ephor if they collectively deem there to be negligence or apathy toward duties.  Being there is no provision to create supermajority voting on this issue (being silent) simple majority rules.

Rook wrote:that's a different question.  My response would apply to all Ephor, not just you.  and Permaban, rightfully, requires a higher vote percentage.

Rook wrote:charter needs revisions.  BUT, we didn't vote on the original or the several updates.  If I get bored, and drunk, I'll rewrite it to try and fix gaps.

Rook wrote:charter needs revisions.  BUT, we didn't vote on the original or the several updates.  If I get bored, and drunk, I'll rewrite it to try and fix gaps.

Blanch32 wrote:

What is the role of sec gen?

Heat Miser wrote:

TANFAN...has run back to tRCMB where the troll competition is not quite as stiff.

SeeRockCity wrote:

The sitting board steward governs the Ephorate.  This is not a Gerousia thing except for elections or perma-bans.

The language of the Charter is somewhat open to interpretation by design.  That is why Nigel has room for interpretation.  If you don't like the way he, or any of the Ephorate conduct their assigned roles, you may vote them out of office in 2016 on the first day of OT season.

Heat Miser wrote:

I don't think Nigel's posting habits would be much different if he was not the Sec Gen. He has no special powers or protections that enable him to be an "annoying little bitch". He's not a mod, so I believe he can be put on ignore. He can't ban anybody, so you're all welcome to DSF him at will. I find it kinda funny that he's basically taken the Tanfan/Bob/Ghost/Blanch playbook & turned against you people. So much so that Tanfan...TANFAN...has run back to tRCMB where the troll competition is not quite as stiff. Hell, nobody has even bothered to hijack his avatar. If he annoys you so much, band together & change his avatar to "annoying little bitch" or something for the next 6 months. Or find the votes & ban him.

The whole purpose of the Swill is to have a place where people can say whatever they want without fear of random banning or censorship. Where the inmates run the asylum and as Tanner himself said "police themselves". All this bitching about Nigel is rather ironic in that regard.

Tanfan! wrote:


But, but, if he gets a perma ban and it is looking it is heading in that direct, then his powers have been neutered? Nes Pas?

Blanch32 wrote:

Hence the reason I voted no.  A yes vote legalized witch hunts which turns msg boards into police states

Heat Miser wrote:Hell, nobody has even bothered to hijack his avatar. If he annoys you so much, band together & change his avatar to "annoying little bitch" or something for the next 6 months.

Heat Miser wrote:

Gus Chiggins wrote:

Blanch32 wrote:

What is the role of sec gen?

Based on my observations, it looks like the job description is being an annoying little bitch who attempts to ruin the board at every given opportunity. I could be wrong, though.

I don't think Nigel's posting habits would be much different if he was not the Sec Gen. He has no special powers or protections that enable him to be an "annoying little bitch". He's not a mod, so I believe he can be put on ignore. He can't ban anybody, so you're all welcome to DSF him at will. I find it kinda funny that he's basically taken the Tanfan/Bob/Ghost/Blanch playbook & turned against you people. So much so that Tanfan...TANFAN...has run back to tRCMB where the troll competition is not quite as stiff. Hell, nobody has even bothered to hijack his avatar. If he annoys you so much, band together & change his avatar to "annoying little bitch" or something for the next 6 months. Or find the votes & ban him.

The whole purpose of the Swill is to have a place where people can say whatever they want without fear of random banning or censorship. Where the inmates run the asylum and as Tanner himself said "police themselves". All this bitching about Nigel is rather ironic in that regard.

Heat Miser wrote:

I don't think Nigel's posting habits would be much different if he was not the Sec Gen. He has no special powers or protections that enable him to be an "annoying little bitch". He's not a mod, so I believe he can be put on ignore. He can't ban anybody, so you're all welcome to DSF him at will. I find it kinda funny that he's basically taken the Tanfan/Bob/Ghost/Blanch playbook & turned against you people. So much so that Tanfan...TANFAN...has run back to tRCMB where the troll competition is not quite as stiff. Hell, nobody has even bothered to hijack his avatar. If he annoys you so much, band together & change his avatar to "annoying little bitch" or something for the next 6 months. Or find the votes & ban him.

The whole purpose of the Swill is to have a place where people can say whatever they want without fear of random banning or censorship. Where the inmates run the asylum and as Tanner himself said "police themselves". All this bitching about Nigel is rather ironic in that regard.

Heat Miser wrote:

Where the inmates run the asylum and as Tanner himself said "police themselves". All this bitching about Nigel is rather ironic in that regard.

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
What exactly do you think Tanner is doing right now? Have you not noticed that nigel has been slightly less of a douchtard this week? What is your definition of policing themselves if not bitching and calling out people? Can we have Ferguson PD style hardware? Do you even think nigel knows he is being manipulated? If not then can you make sure he doesn't see this post? Would you like me to put in another question?