Ridiculous - Brady suspended & a 1st rounder docked.

by Guest 2015-05-11, 17:40

For deflategate.......

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 7m7 minutes ago
Filed to ESPN: Tom Brady suspended four games, Pats lose 1st round pick in 2016 and a 4th in 2017, and team fined $1 million, per source:

by **Turtleneck** 2015-05-11, 17:45

LooseGoose wrote:For deflategate.......

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 7m7 minutes ago
Filed to ESPN: Tom Brady suspended four games, Pats lose 1st round pick in 2016 and a 4th in 2017, and team fined $1 million, per source:

Do not like the Pats. Do not like Brady. I think this is over the top.

Other teams have been caught tampering recently and received only fines (nowhere near $1 million).

Was there any direct evidence tying Brady to the deflated footballs?

by **The Pantry** 2015-05-11, 17:51

Was hoping Brady would get more but that's about what I expected

by **I.B. Fine** 2015-05-11, 17:55

Should have worded it differently:

'One game for tampering, 3 games, draft picks & fine for the orchestrated charade and generally being a douche about getting caught'

by Guest 2015-05-11, 18:09

Pete Abraham ‏@PeteAbe 10m10 minutes ago

Odds of Goodell being commissioner in 18 months? Kraft’s vengeance is going to make Michael Corleone look forgiving.

by Guest 2015-05-11, 18:11

I don't care for the Patriots and really don't like Brady, but.....

I'm not a lawyer but if I spent a night at a Holiday Inn Express I could shred the NFL's case in court. The report they put out is a fucking farce.

by **Floyd Robertson** 2015-05-11, 18:12

How much do you get for domestic violence, two games?

by **The_Dude** 2015-05-11, 18:19

Well the thing is the Pats are repeat offenders and Brady was a dick about the whole thing refusing to cooperate, etc.

by **steveschneider** 2015-05-11, 18:23

Good fuck em.

by **Dr. Strangelove** 2015-05-11, 18:30

That opening game outta be something. The Steelers minus Bell at the Pats minus Brady.

by **The Pantry** 2015-05-11, 18:41

Pats will be minus Blount also

by **tGreenWay** 2015-05-11, 19:15

steveschneider wrote:Good fuck em.

This. He's scum. Good fucking riddance. And Belichick can chow a bag of AIDS fire.

by **kingstonlake** 2015-05-11, 20:26

The league obviously has more on the Pats than they are going public with. Deflate gate, Spy gate, Hernandez, etc. Etc. League probably told them to knock it the fuck off and they just keep on cheating. Lowered the boom this time.

by **NigelUno** 2015-05-11, 20:28

LooseGoose wrote:I don't care for the Patriots and really don't like Brady, but.....

I'm not a lawyer but if I spent a night at a Holiday Inn Express I could shred the NFL's case in court. The report they put out is a fucking farce.

In what court?

by Guest 2015-05-11, 21:19

NigelUno wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:I don't care for the Patriots and really don't like Brady, but.....

I'm not a lawyer but if I spent a night at a Holiday Inn Express I could shred the NFL's case in court. The report they put out is a fucking farce.

In what court?

Whatever court they'd let me appear in....

Ridiculous - Brady suspended & a 1st rounder docked. 1833121890

by **kingstonlake** 2015-05-11, 21:23

It's the NFL, son. That "report" was for public consumption.

by **Ass Dan** 2015-05-11, 21:37

steveschneider wrote:Good fuck em.

Shittiest poster on this board. Including Blanche

by Guest 2015-05-11, 21:39

The stupidity is this - the balls were an average of 2/100ths of a pound under inflated. Christ they could have leaked that much air out while testing them.

Couple that with the possibility that they used DIFFERENT gauges for the readings and it's all a steaming pile of shit for "evidence".

Pressure gauge discrepancies undermine Wells report

by **steveschneider** 2015-05-11, 21:44

Ass Dan wrote:
steveschneider wrote:Good fuck em.

Shittiest poster on this board. Including Blanche

You definitely are.

by **Cym Jim** 2015-05-11, 21:45

Preseason doesn't count I hope?

by **Ass Dan** 2015-05-11, 21:50

steveschneider wrote:
Ass Dan wrote:

Shittiest poster on this board. Including Blanche

You definitely are.

Holy shit. you're a grown man who actually used the "I know you are but what am I?" Move.

You should be ashamed of yourself

by **Snake Plissken** 2015-05-11, 21:57

LooseGoose wrote:The stupidity is this - the balls were an average of 2/100ths of a pound under inflated. Christ they could have leaked that much air out while testing them.

Couple that with the possibility that they used DIFFERENT gauges for the readings and it's all a steaming pile of shit for "evidence".

Pressure gauge discrepancies undermine Wells report

1 or 2 balls maybe but all the balls? C'mon now. Let's get real. Them are some cheating fuckers.

by Guest 2015-05-11, 22:02

Snake Plissken wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:The stupidity is this - the balls were an average of 2/100ths of a pound under inflated. Christ they could have leaked that much air out while testing them.

Couple that with the possibility that they used DIFFERENT gauges for the readings and it's all a steaming pile of shit for "evidence".

Pressure gauge discrepancies undermine Wells report

1 or 2 balls maybe but all the balls? C'mon now. Let's get real. Them are some cheating fuckers.

They weren't all under inflated, that's the point.

As those of you who were visiting PFT frequently in the early days of #DeflateGate may recall, the Ideal Gas Law refers to the formula that determines the changes in gases based on various factors, including but not limited to volume, pressure, and temperature. And the Wells report concludes that all Patriots footballs should have measured between 11.52 and 11.32 PSI at halftime.

But that observation hinges on the question of which gauge was used to set the PSI prior to kickoff. If the gauge that generates the higher numbers was used, the measurements of the Patriots footballs taken by that gauge are mostly consistent with the 11.52-11.32 PSI range at halftime: (1) 11.8; (2) 11.2; (3) 11.5; (4) 11.0; (5) 11.45; (6) 11.95; (7) 12.3; (8) 11.55; (9) 11.35; (10) 10.9; and (11) 11.35.

Based on those readings, three of the footballs were above the predicted range, five were in the predicted range, and three were below the predicted range.

by Rodeo Burger 2015-05-11, 22:08

Floyd Robertson wrote:How much do you get for domestic violence, two games?

Initially that's what Ray Rice got. When the video surfaced, he was suspended indefinitely, but that was overturned in late November. He still hasn't been signed by anyone I don't think.

One distinction is that Ray Rice cooperated with the investigation and didn't lie. Brady didn't cooperate, and lied repeatedly.

by **Snake Plissken** 2015-05-11, 22:09

Ridiculous - Brady suspended & a 1st rounder docked. 01-816

LooseGoose wrote:

They weren't all under inflated, that's the point.

As those of you who were visiting PFT frequently in the early days of #DeflateGate may recall, the Ideal Gas Law refers to the formula that determines the changes in gases based on various factors, including but not limited to volume, pressure, and temperature. And the Wells report concludes that all Patriots footballs should have measured between 11.52 and 11.32 PSI at halftime.

But that observation hinges on the question of which gauge was used to set the PSI prior to kickoff. If the gauge that generates the higher numbers was used, the measurements of the Patriots footballs taken by that gauge are mostly consistent with the 11.52-11.32 PSI range at halftime: (1) 11.8; (2) 11.2; (3) 11.5; (4) 11.0; (5) 11.45; (6) 11.95; (7) 12.3; (8) 11.55; (9) 11.35; (10) 10.9; and (11) 11.35.

Based on those readings, three of the footballs were above the predicted range, five were in the predicted range, and three were below the predicted range.

by **steveschneider** 2015-05-11, 22:10

Ass Dan wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

You definitely are.

Holy shit. you're a grown man who actually used the "I know you are but what am I?" Move.

You should be ashamed of yourself

Well you don't like Seinfeld Star Wars or me. I'm flattered to be in such good company.

by Guest 2015-05-11, 22:14

Snake Plissken wrote:

They're ignoring the IGL, so shit "science" equals bad facts. You did note the NFL concluded that this was the correct range for the balls at 1/2 time?

And the Wells report concludes that all Patriots footballs should have measured between 11.52 and 11.32 PSI at halftime.

by **Ass Dan** 2015-05-11, 22:16

steveschneider wrote:
Ass Dan wrote:

Holy shit. you're a grown man who actually used the "I know you are but what am I?" Move.

You should be ashamed of yourself

Well you don't like Seinfeld Star Wars or me. I'm flattered to be in such good company.

I don't like Michigan or cancer either, so throw those into that category as well.

by **Snake Plissken** 2015-05-11, 22:18

LooseGoose wrote:
Snake Plissken wrote:

They're ignoring the IGL, so shit "science" equals bad facts. You did note the NFL concluded that this was the correct range for the balls at 1/2 time?

And the Wells report concludes that all Patriots footballs should have measured between 11.52 and 11.32 PSI at halftime.

I think it's all stupid to begin with. IF they did it and got away with it good for them.

by **Turtleneck** 2015-05-11, 22:24

Ass Dan wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

Well you don't like Seinfeld Star Wars or me. I'm flattered to be in such good company.

I don't like Michigan or cancer either, so throw those into that category as well.

But you went to Michigan, right? So you would appear in a Seinfeld reboot or maybe become a cancer cell?

by **NigelUno** 2015-05-11, 22:58

LooseGoose wrote:The stupidity is this - the balls were an average of 2/100ths of a pound under inflated. Christ they could have leaked that much air out while testing them.

Couple that with the possibility that they used DIFFERENT gauges for the readings and it's all a steaming pile of shit for "evidence".

Pressure gauge discrepancies undermine Wells report

So, you don't think they cheated? Or you don't think it can be proven they cheated?

by **DWags** 2015-05-11, 23:07

LooseGoose wrote:I don't care for the Patriots and really don't like Brady, but.....

I'm not a lawyer but if I spent a night at a Holiday Inn Express I could shred the NFL's case in court. The report they put out is a fucking farce.

The dick head called and texted the meat head who was deflating his balls for him. Should have just paid the guy when he saw him and enough with the texts and shit. Then the dick head lied to the NFL. Fuck him. Even if it gives zero advantage, the guy was trying to manipulate the rules to an advantage, and he's dumb enough to get caught. Id' have given him more. Fuck New Orleans lost a whole year.

by **Ass Dan** 2015-05-11, 23:22

Turtleneck wrote:
Ass Dan wrote:

I don't like Michigan or cancer either, so throw those into that category as well.

But you went to Michigan, right? So you would appear in a Seinfeld reboot or maybe become a cancer cell?

Save your energy for an argument about the merits of Wegmans. This is between Steve and I.

by **Turtleneck** 2015-05-11, 23:26

Ass Dan wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:

But you went to Michigan, right? So you would appear in a Seinfeld reboot or maybe become a cancer cell?

Save your energy for an argument about the merits of Wegmans. This is between Steve and I.

Steve is winning.

by **tGreenWay** 2015-05-11, 23:37

Turtleneck wrote:
Ass Dan wrote:

Save your energy for an argument about the merits of Wegmans. This is between Steve and I.

Steve is winning.

Ridiculous - Brady suspended & a 1st rounder docked. 502811600

by **steveschneider** 2015-05-12, 00:51

Ass Dan wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

Well you don't like Seinfeld Star Wars or me. I'm flattered to be in such good company.

I don't like Michigan or cancer either, so throw those into that category as well.

Liar, you love cancer and Michigan.

by LoneWolfSparty 2015-05-12, 07:09

Love it. Wish he'd been suspended longer. The entire Pats organization are cheaters. Belicheat should have received a year as a repeat offender. (And before anyone argues he knew nothing about it, either did Sean Payton in Bountygate.)

by Guest 2015-05-12, 07:10

NigelUno wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:The stupidity is this - the balls were an average of 2/100ths of a pound under inflated. Christ they could have leaked that much air out while testing them.

Couple that with the possibility that they used DIFFERENT gauges for the readings and it's all a steaming pile of shit for "evidence".

Pressure gauge discrepancies undermine Wells report

So, you don't think they cheated? Or you don't think it can be proven they cheated?

I don't think that report proved anything. I'm pretty sure they deflated the balls to the very minimum. The other part of the report I'm not sure on is that he could deflate 12 balls in a minute or so.

Either way I feel like I need a shower again after defending Brady and the Patriots.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2015-05-12, 07:19

the real question is.. what did Delaney know about this and when did he know it...

oh - and screw scUM. I hate them.

by **Dr. Strangelove** 2015-05-12, 07:32

Fire Comley

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