Democratic debate

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** 13/10/15, 08:34 pm

I know Robert is watching.

by **InTenSity** 13/10/15, 08:41 pm

I'm watching Shrek the third.

by **kingstonlake** 13/10/15, 08:43 pm

Dan Quayle.

by **StylesGShmooth** 13/10/15, 09:31 pm

I'm going to equal my viewership of the GOP debate and continue to not join or root for the blue gang or red gang.

by **The Pantry** 13/10/15, 09:32 pm

Dan Quayl

by **Watch Out Pylon!** 13/10/15, 09:43 pm

Potatoe.

by CheesySpartan 13/10/15, 10:01 pm

I'm watching. These idiots seem no better then the Republican option...Ugh

by **CORNER BLITZ** 13/10/15, 10:04 pm

CheesySpartan wrote:I'm watching. These idiots seem no better then the Republican option...Ugh

There's a shocker

by CheesySpartan 13/10/15, 10:05 pm

StylesGShmooth wrote:I'm going to equal my viewership of the GOP debate and continue to not join or root for the blue gang or red gang.

Unfortunately those are our only options...again UGH

by CheesySpartan 13/10/15, 10:12 pm

Free college? ...LMFAO

by **The Pantry** 13/10/15, 10:15 pm

CheesySpartan wrote:Free college? ...LMFAO

Dems think everything is free

by **Vlad** 13/10/15, 11:16 pm

The Pantry wrote:
CheesySpartan wrote:Free college? ...LMFAO
Dems think everything is free

What do Republicans think?

by **The Pantry** 13/10/15, 11:36 pm

Vlad wrote:
The Pantry wrote:Dems think everything is free

What do Republicans think?

They know Democrats think everything should be free

by **Nordic** 14/10/15, 01:14 am

Vlad wrote:
The Pantry wrote:Dems think everything is free

What do Republicans think?

Guns should be free

- Bob Sak

by **Tim Wakefield** 14/10/15, 01:55 am

Pretty weak debate I thought. Hillary is the devil and Bernie... Well that's not gonna happen Democratic debate 502811600

Who were those other 3 clowns? Felt uncomfortable even watching them speak.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** 14/10/15, 01:57 am

Still riding the Bernie train. Hillary sucks

by **Jaheab** 14/10/15, 02:04 am

Vlad wrote:
The Pantry wrote:Dems think everything is free

What do Republicans think?

If he bothered to pay attention he would have realized that the crux of the question was how do we pay for it. The (only) dem that has advocated for the program offered a specific plan for paying for it. But lets not let that get in the way of intentionally misrepresenting the arguement and thus dismissing the point the canidate was trying to make.

Jesus Christos, if the current political climate is any indication this country is fucked.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** 14/10/15, 02:09 am

CheesySpartan wrote:Free college? ...LMFAO

Hilarious until you see other countries do it.

by **Jaheab** 14/10/15, 02:30 am

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:
CheesySpartan wrote:Free college? ...LMFAO

Hilarious until you see other countries do it.

The intellectual disconnect is mind blowing. From the right: "We can't do that!! It'd be suicide!! How would we compete internationally? "

Yet somehow dozens of much poorer and 'inferior' countries find a way to make paid maternity leave, free quality education (including college), universal health care, gun control, ect work.

If we are truly the greatest country in the world then we should be able to find a way to extend programs that have been shown to increase quality of life around the globe to our citizens.

If we are really as great as we say we are we should be able to take the best ideas from around the world, improve on them and create the greatest society the world has known.

by **StylesGShmooth** 14/10/15, 02:50 am

So, obviously didn't watch; because screw both those gangs. I guess I'll have to start watching around next summer.

Free college though? Are we not aware how well that is working in other countries? That are quickly moving to surpass us, btw.

We are beholden to self interest though I guess. We're late to the party on the most modest of gun control and health care issues as well.

The real question people should ask though is; Why hasn't something as obvious as campaign reform not been passed? The fact that eliminating all the special interest money from out election process doesn't get unanimous support is more telling than anything. In general the best fundraiser wins his/her election and that doesn't seem to be a problem with far too many people.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** 14/10/15, 02:51 am

StylesGShmooth wrote:So, obviously didn't watch; because screw both those gangs. I guess I'll have to start watching around next summer.

Free college though? Are we not aware how well that is working in other countries? That are quickly moving to surpass us, btw.

We are beholden to self interest though I guess. We're late to the party on the most modest of gun control and health care issues as well.

The real question people should ask though is; Why hasn't something as obvious as campaign reform not been passed? The fact that eliminating all the special interest money from out election process doesn't get unanimous support is more telling than anything. In general the best fundraiser wins his/her election and that doesn't seem to be a problem with far too many people.

All of you guys sound like you would vote for the socialist Bernie Sanders.. Hmm

by **StylesGShmooth** 14/10/15, 03:04 am

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:
StylesGShmooth wrote:So, obviously didn't watch; because screw both those gangs. I guess I'll have to start watching around next summer.

Free college though? Are we not aware how well that is working in other countries? That are quickly moving to surpass us, btw.

We are beholden to self interest though I guess. We're late to the party on the most modest of gun control and health care issues as well.

The real question people should ask though is; Why hasn't something as obvious as campaign reform not been passed? The fact that eliminating all the special interest money from out election process doesn't get unanimous support is more telling than anything. In general the best fundraiser wins his/her election and that doesn't seem to be a problem with far too many people.

All of you guys sound like you would vote for the socialist Bernie Sanders.. Hmm

Meh, I have liberal beliefs, I have conservative beliefs (So awesome what free thought feels like when you're not beholden to one of those gangs or tied to the talking points from some pundit)0. We haven't had anything close to a Socialist in mainstream American politcis in a long time though. Hell, the Socialist Obama is a Right Centrist if you actually look at his track record. I feel pretty safe anyway that we're sticking with this Capitalsm thing we have going.

No idea who I'm voting for yet, btw.

by **DWags** 14/10/15, 05:26 am

After watching both sides.

We're fucked.

by Guest 14/10/15, 05:52 am

I'm trying to figure out which party our current President belongs to.

The Republicans are darned unhappy with him. After the recitations of our country's woes last night and the repeated calls for new leadership it seems the Democrats don't care for him much either.

When does his party hold their debate?

by tanfan! 14/10/15, 06:14 am

Jaheab wrote:
Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

Hilarious until you see other countries do it.

The intellectual disconnect is mind blowing. From the right: "We can't do that!! It'd be suicide!! How would we compete internationally? "

Yet somehow dozens of much poorer and 'inferior' countries find a way to make paid maternity leave, free quality education (including college), universal health care, gun control, ect work.

If we are truly the greatest country in the world then we should be able to find a way to extend programs that have been shown to increase quality of life around the globe to our citizens.

If we are really as great as we say we are we should be able to take the best ideas from around the world, improve on them and create the greatest society the world has known.

You should move

by tanfan! 14/10/15, 06:16 am

StylesGShmooth wrote:
Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

All of you guys sound like you would vote for the socialist Bernie Sanders.. Hmm

Meh, I have liberal beliefs, I have conservative beliefs (So awesome what free thought feels like when you're not beholden to one of those gangs or tied to the talking points from some pundit)0. We haven't had anything close to a Socialist in mainstream American politcis in a long time though. Hell, the Socialist Obama is a Right Centrist if you actually look at his track record. I feel pretty safe anyway that we're sticking with this Capitalsm thing we have going.

No idea who I'm voting for yet, btw.

What up, g?

by **Jake from State Farm** 14/10/15, 06:23 am

LooseGoose wrote:I'm trying to figure out which party our current President belongs to.

The Republicans are darned unhappy with him. After the recitations of our country's woes last night and the repeated calls for new leadership it seems the Democrats don't care for him much either.

When does his party hold their debate?

Good question. Hillary used to be a republican, maybe she knows. One or two of the other master debaters were also republicans at one point in their political careers.

by **The_Dude** 14/10/15, 10:31 am

StylesGShmooth wrote:So, obviously didn't watch; because screw both those gangs. I guess I'll have to start watching around next summer.

Free college though? Are we not aware how well that is working in other countries? That are quickly moving to surpass us, btw.

We are beholden to self interest though I guess. We're late to the party on the most modest of gun control and health care issues as well.

The real question people should ask though is; Why hasn't something as obvious as campaign reform not been passed? The fact that eliminating all the special interest money from out election process doesn't get unanimous support is more telling than anything. In general the best fundraiser wins his/her election and that doesn't seem to be a problem with far too many people.

Other countries are passing us K-12 but no one can even sniff hiow good our colleges and unviersities are.

by **AMwood** 14/10/15, 10:35 am

if college is free will there be reparations for those of us who had to pay for it?

by **The_Dude** 14/10/15, 10:42 am

AMwood wrote:if college is free will there be reparations for those of us who had to pay for it?

Liberals despise people who had to work their way to achieve success. Absolutely despise. In fact they've banned telling their children if you work had you can achieve anything.

Now the message is the system is rigged against you, you deserve entitlements for simply breathing, and you have to be lucky to be successful.

I get it. Pander to the mass sheep who made poor life decisions and nags them feel like integrity fsulure is the fault of others.

by Guest 14/10/15, 10:43 am

AMwood wrote:if college is free will there be reparations for those of us who had to pay for it?

It won't be fair, nor will it be fair to those that make the decision to bypass college and the associated costs/debt. My son is one of those, now making $25+ an hour as a mechanic - should he pay for others to go to college for a degree that qualifies them for $24K a year?

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** 14/10/15, 10:45 am

Education should be a right, not a privilege. Hopefully, one day we get there.

by **steveschneider** 14/10/15, 10:51 am

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Education should be a right, not a privilege. Hopefully, one day we get there.

We want upgrades to our infrastructure, universal health care, more pre-k and higher ed, more public transit and we're willing to tax the rich to get it.

by Guest 14/10/15, 10:53 am

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Education should be a right, not a privilege. Hopefully, one day we get there.

I agree it's a right, anyone has a right to get one. Just plan to pay for it yourself.

by **steveschneider** 14/10/15, 11:15 am

DWags wrote:After watching both sides.

We're fucked.

Huh, after watching the democratic debate I saw 3 candidates capable of being POTUS.

For the Republican debate, I saw 18 nut jobs. That party is a disaster.

by **Tim Wakefield** 14/10/15, 11:18 am

When did capitalism become a bad word?

by **Travis of the Cosmos** 14/10/15, 11:20 am

steveschneider wrote:
DWags wrote:After watching both sides.

We're fucked.

Huh, after watching the democratic debate I saw 3 candidates capable of being POTUS.

For the Republican debate, I saw 18 nut jobs. That party is a disaster.

by Jethro Bodeen 14/10/15, 12:05 pm

For all of you "free college" people: just see how worthless college degrees become when everyone has a BA or BS. It will be nothing more than a high school diploma. It's getting that way now.

And if you think many high schools now are wastelands of social promotion, grade inflation, sex, bulling and violence see what happens when college is "free" too.

Honestly, the subject of "free" this and "free" that is such infantile, moronic nonsense that I can't believe people that claim to be college educated talk as if its a legitimate concept. It's communist fairy dust. Utopian bullshit.

You can't have a wealth producing, job producing, capitalist, meritocracy (that morons like Bernie Sanders gushes about) for very long when 18 trillion is confiscated by the government and spread around like goodies. Besides that, for all of you dumbasses, we can't afford what's being done now! We go deeper into debt every second to support the welfare state that Bernie Sanders thinks is not spending enough now.

It's not because of the 1%.If you taxed all of their wealth- 100% of it- and left the Rockefeller's, Gates, Buffets, Waltons, etc penniless on the street, it would fund the current government for a few months.

And don't forget, when universal health care started being pushed it was going to be "free". Then, as it was being pushed through Congress, it was changed to " affordable". Now we see the reality. It's not affordable, even for those that qualify for subsidies, the co-pays and deductibles have skyrocketed. For those without subsidies, the premiums have doubled and out of pocket costs have gone up by 50%. I know. I pay for my own medical insurance.

On top of this, its all enforced by the IRS that force you to buy an unaffordable product and penalize you for failing to do do. They will take your house, your bank account, your car, your pension.

That is Bernie Sanders bullshit utopia and he doesn't want to just double down, But triple down. It's phony bullshit. It never works and only diminishes wealth and freedom. It's cynical vote buying by elites.

by **steveschneider** 14/10/15, 12:09 pm

Jethro Bodeen wrote:For all of you "free college" people: just see how worthless college degrees become when everyone has a BA or BS. It will be nothing more than a high school diploma. It's getting that way now.

And if you think many high schools now are wastelands of social promotion, grade inflation, sex, bulling and violence see what happens when college is "free" too.

Honestly, the subject of "free" this and "free" that is such infantile, moronic nonsense that I can't believe people that claim to be college educated talk as if its a legitimate concept. It's communist fairy dust. Utopian bullshit.

You can't have a wealth producing, job producing, capitalist, meritocracy (that morons like Bernie Sanders gushes about) for very long when 18 trillion is confiscated by the government and spread around like goodies. Besides that, for all of you dumbasses, we can't afford what's being done now! We go deeper into debt every second to support the welfare state that Bernie Sanders thinks is not spending enough now.

It's not because of the 1%.If you taxed all of their wealth- 100% of it- and left the Rockefeller's, Gates, Buffets, Waltons, etc penniless on the street, it would fund the current government for a few months.

And don't forget, when universal health care started being pushed it was going to be "free". Then, as it was being pushed through Congress, it was changed to " affordable". Now we see the reality. It's not affordable, even for those that qualify for subsidies, the co-pays and deductibles have skyrocketed. For those without subsidies, the premiums have doubled and out of pocket costs have gone up by 50%. I know. I pay for my own medical insurance.

On top of this, its all enforced by the IRS that force you to buy an unaffordable product and penalize you for failing to do do. They will take your house, your bank account, your car, your pension.

That is Bernie Sanders bullshit utopia and he doesn't want to just double down, But triple down. It's phony bullshit. It never works and only diminishes wealth and freedom. It's cynical vote buying by elites.

Look at Germany, very well educated country, affordable education and their economy is growing.

A nation is better off with its population smarter not dumber.

by MasonGuy 14/10/15, 12:10 pm

Some of the Democratic responses were unbearable to watch. Some of the Republican questions were unbearable to listen to. I don't think "debates" will ever give me what I am looking for.

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