Re: Why can't Izzo close the deal on the highest profile recruits?

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** 2016-04-11, 22:51

What about Lorbek's Dad? Fuck him?

by **InTenSity** 2016-04-11, 22:51

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
InTenSity wrote:
This hurts. I love my parents now.

I'm sorry buddy. I was just teasing you. But most 17 year olds don't just say "f you parents" especially when they have considerable skill for making money very soon and they're trying not to fuck it up.

Also, I love your mom too.

:))))))

I just find this hard to believe. A lot of my friends didn't want much to do with their parents. Have I had it all wrong all these years? We made fun of the 20 year old still living with their parents. Down here in Miami, people live with their parents until their early 30s and its a thing of pride. I don't understand anything.

by **NigelUno** 2016-04-11, 22:52

Herbie Green wrote:
CheesySpartan wrote:Green was a UK blueblood commit first...

Yup.

Unfortunately this is not an example of blue chip talent or cheating but poor scouting by Izzo. Izzo didn't even offer him a scholarship before Tubby landed him

A. Green's HS Coach (Lou Dawkins) played for Tubby at Tulsa.
B. "At the time Day Day verbaled, Michigan State didn't have any scholarships," Dawkins said. "Scholarships don't come around every day. At that particular time, Coach Izzo didn't have any to offer, but a player from MSU (Maurice Joseph) transferred out and a scholarship became available. "Good things happen to good people. Day Day went to his dream school where his aunt played."

So, it wasn't really "poor scouting".

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** 2016-04-11, 22:52

I love my parents, good people, fun, and Spartans. But, there was no way in hell I was living with them much longer after moving out for college prior.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** 2016-04-11, 22:53

InTenSity wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

I'm sorry buddy. I was just teasing you. But most 17 year olds don't just say "f you parents" especially when they have considerable skill for making money very soon and they're trying not to fuck it up.

Also, I love your mom too.

:))))))
I just find this hard to believe. A lot of my friends didn't want much to do with their parents. Have I had it all wrong all these years? We made fun of the 20 year old still living with their parents. Down here in Miami, people live with their parents until their early 30s and its a thing of pride. I don't understand anything.

Yeah, most minors don't literally ignore their parents. Adults either. It's not really a new thing. More how civilization has worked for all of time.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** 2016-04-11, 22:54

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:I love my parents, good people, fun, and Spartans. But, there was no way in hell I was living with them much longer after moving out for college prior.

Yeah, I mean he mentioned that but that's not really what we're talking about. This kid is going to be living in a different city every couple of days in less than a year. I don't think comparing him to living at home is really a fair comparison.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** 2016-04-11, 22:57

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:I love my parents, good people, fun, and Spartans. But, there was no way in hell I was living with them much longer after moving out for college prior.

Yeah, I mean he mentioned that but that's not really what we're talking about. This kid is going to be living in a different city every couple of days in less than a year. I don't think comparing him to living at home is really a fair comparison.

So what were we talking about

Why can't Izzo close the deal on the highest profile recruits? - Page 2 502811600

by **Travis of the Cosmos** 2016-04-11, 22:58

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

Yeah, I mean he mentioned that but that's not really what we're talking about. This kid is going to be living in a different city every couple of days in less than a year. I don't think comparing him to living at home is really a fair comparison.

So what were we talking about

Fuck if I know. Last I knew I was talking about banging intensity's mom.

by **InTenSity** 2016-04-11, 23:00

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
InTenSity wrote:
I just find this hard to believe. A lot of my friends didn't want much to do with their parents. Have I had it all wrong all these years? We made fun of the 20 year old still living with their parents. Down here in Miami, people live with their parents until their early 30s and its a thing of pride. I don't understand anything.

Yeah, most minors don't literally ignore their parents. Adults either. It's not really a new thing. More how civilization has worked for all of time.

If you give me a choice, at 18 of fucking my girlfriend, or living with my mom. I'm fucking my girlfriend. This kid chose to get strange in KS? I dunno. Just wish his 3 best friends didn't sign with MSU, and his GF goes to scum.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** 2016-04-11, 23:01

Wait so his mom is going to Kansas too now? What is she studying?

by **InTenSity** 2016-04-11, 23:02

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Wait so his mom is going to Kansas too now? What is she studying?

You're pretty naive OTPT. I'm sorry, but what do you really think is happening here?

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** 2016-04-11, 23:03

InTenSity wrote:
Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Wait so his mom is going to Kansas too now? What is she studying?
You're pretty naive OTPT. I'm sorry, but what do you really think is happening here?

by **Travis of the Cosmos** 2016-04-11, 23:06

InTenSity wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

Yeah, most minors don't literally ignore their parents. Adults either. It's not really a new thing. More how civilization has worked for all of time.
If you give me a choice, at 18 of fucking my girlfriend, or living with my mom. I'm fucking my girlfriend. This kid chose to get strange in KS? I dunno. Just wish his 3 best friends didn't sign with MSU, and his GF goes to scum.

I mean, the choice wasn't really fucking his girlfriend or living at home... It was fucking his girlfriend and other chicks of his choosing at this one place or fucking his girlfriend and other chicks of his choosing at this other place. I don't think living at home ever entered the equation.

And good God. Sticking with his hs gf or getting strange in college? What would be your advice if it were any random high school kid and not one that you want at your school? Or shit. Even if you want them there. Your answer would be get some strange. If you're not a liar.

by **pulling69** 2016-04-11, 23:07

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Wait so his mom is going to Kansas too now? What is she studying?

Economics?

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** 2016-04-11, 23:09

So even if my mom was going t school at the same time as I was.. If I'm going to spend a year in college, then making millions hooping, I'm dumping the hometown hottie.

I waited too long. Too long. But I'm not making millions. But still.

by **steveschneider** 2016-04-11, 23:21

Dr. Strangelove wrote:Seriously.

Jackson
Jabari Parker
Jahlil Okafor
Cliff Alexander
Caleb Swanigan
Tyler Ulis

Is it a money thing? Cuz I'm sure Eli Broad could kick in some extra if needed.

Otherwise he needs to take some lessons from Alec Baldwin.

Of every player on that list the only one that has a ring is Okafur.

The others had pretty lack luster collegiate careers.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** 2016-04-11, 23:22

Steve, Steve. You're so fucking wrong dude.

by Herbie Green 2016-04-11, 23:24

NigelUno wrote:
Herbie Green wrote:

Yup.

Unfortunately this is not an example of blue chip talent or cheating but poor scouting by Izzo. Izzo didn't even offer him a scholarship before Tubby landed him

A. Green's HS Coach (Lou Dawkins) played for Tubby at Tulsa.
B. "At the time Day Day verbaled, Michigan State didn't have any scholarships," Dawkins said. "Scholarships don't come around every day. At that particular time, Coach Izzo didn't have any to offer, but a player from MSU (Maurice Joseph) transferred out and a scholarship became available. "Good things happen to good people. Day Day went to his dream school where his aunt played."

So, it wasn't really "poor scouting".

Yeah, I have read these excuses before.

Izzo just recruited JJ without a scholarship available.

Marcus Taylor had a scholarship waiting for him since 8th grade.

Fortunately Tubby got fired or else we would be hearing about a player from Saginaw whose dream was to play for MSU but wasn't offered a scholarship

by **GRR Spartan** 2016-04-11, 23:56

In an interview Jackson's mother gave to a reporter twitter KP_Rivals its pretty clear Jackson's mother wasn't buying what Izzo was selling.

I can't remember a parent of a recruit who went elsewhere inferring Izzo didn't have a 4 year plan and wasn't interested in a player as a person.

Don't know what all the issues were but its pretty clear Josh Jackson's mom is a powerful force who was sold on Kansas, probably more than her son who will be playing there.

by **steveschneider** 2016-04-12, 00:01

Jackson
Jabari Parker
Jahlil Okafor
Cliff Alexander
Caleb Swanigan
Tyler Ulis

Jackson
Jabari Parker - one and done and first round exit
Jahlil Okafor - champion
Cliff Alexander - busted for cheating had to sit out
Caleb Swanigan - one and done and first round exit
Tyler Ulis - Pretty damn good.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** 2016-04-12, 00:04

steveschneider wrote:
Jackson
Jabari Parker
Jahlil Okafor
Cliff Alexander
Caleb Swanigan
Tyler Ulis

Jackson
Jabari Parker - one and done and first round exit
Jahlil Okafor - champion
Cliff Alexander - busted for cheating had to sit out
Caleb Swanigan - one and done and first round exit
Tyler Ulis - Pretty damn good.

One and done is a good thing bruh

by Herbie Green 2016-04-12, 00:09

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:And I'm talking 5 star blue blood offer Michigan football fan whacking off to quality. I don't think Dawson qualifies. Roe yes. Davis i think 5 stars on rivals but what were his offers

Paul Davis was McDs. I think he committed early so his recruitment never became a spectactle.
D Davis also committed early. Props to Izzo there for identifying talent as I don't know if he was barely top 100 and then developed into McDs.

by **WhiteBoyHatcher** 2016-04-12, 00:39

Jesus what the fuck are you guys even talking about. Paralysis by analysis.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** 2016-04-12, 00:46

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Jesus what the fuck are you guys even talking about.

Paralysis by analysis.

by **Tim Wakefield** 2016-04-12, 00:57

Kansas is pussies

by **Nordic** 2016-04-12, 01:09

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Jesus what the fuck are you guys even talking about. Paralysis by analysis.

I see you're new here. Welcome to tSwill.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** 2016-04-12, 01:24

Tim Wakefield wrote:Kansas is pussies

Hahahahahhahahahahhaha

by **NigelUno** 2016-04-12, 07:42

Herbie Green wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

A. Green's HS Coach (Lou Dawkins) played for Tubby at Tulsa.
B. "At the time Day Day verbaled, Michigan State didn't have any scholarships," Dawkins said. "Scholarships don't come around every day. At that particular time, Coach Izzo didn't have any to offer, but a player from MSU (Maurice Joseph) transferred out and a scholarship became available. "Good things happen to good people. Day Day went to his dream school where his aunt played."

So, it wasn't really "poor scouting".

Yeah, I have read these excuses before.

Izzo just recruited JJ without a scholarship available.

Marcus Taylor had a scholarship waiting for him since 8th grade.

Fortunately Tubby got fired or else we would be hearing about a player from Saginaw whose dream was to play for MSU but wasn't offered a scholarship

You have read the "excuses" before? Why can't Izzo close the deal on the highest profile recruits? - Page 2 502811600

I think they were more just like facts, but I'm sure your take on it is better than Lou Dawkins.

I guess you consider this a "black mark" on Izzo?

I'm glad you've worked it out in your alternative universe that Green would have become the player he is today by going to Kentucky and playing for Tubby. If Tubby was so great at player development, he probably wouldn't have been fired at Kentucky and Minnesota...but, that probably doesn't fit into your spin, right?

by **NigelUno** 2016-04-12, 07:44

GRR Spartan wrote:In an interview Jackson's mother gave to a reporter twitter KP_Rivals its pretty clear Jackson's mother wasn't buying what Izzo was selling.

I can't remember a parent of a recruit who went elsewhere inferring Izzo didn't have a 4 year plan and wasn't interested in a player as a person.

Don't know what all the issues were but its pretty clear Josh Jackson's mom is a powerful force who was sold on Kansas, probably more than her son who will be playing there.

I wonder if she's making a reference to Clark and Bess transferring.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2016-04-12, 07:52

Dr. Strangelove wrote:Seriously.

Jackson
Jabari Parker
Jahlil Okafor
Cliff Alexander
Caleb Swanigan
Tyler Ulis

Is it a money thing? Cuz I'm sure Eli Broad could kick in some extra if needed.

Otherwise he needs to take some lessons from Alec Baldwin.

simple.. everyone but us cheats.

by Guest 2016-04-12, 08:08

Bill Walton
Lew Alcindor
Michael Jordan
Carmelo Anthony
The list goes on forever.

by **steveschneider** 2016-04-12, 08:09

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

Jackson
Jabari Parker - one and done and first round exit
Jahlil Okafor - champion
Cliff Alexander - busted for cheating had to sit out
Caleb Swanigan - one and done and first round exit
Tyler Ulis - Pretty damn good.

One and done is a good thing bruh

Yeah, it can be. This years tournament was dominated by teams with upper class men though.

My crystal ball prediction Jackson was this years drama queen of the recruiting class. We will be fine next year. Kansas won't do much better than us. Good luck to the kid.

by **Blanch32** 2016-04-12, 08:12

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:What about Lorbek's Dad? Fuck him?

Yes, fuck him

by **Watch Out Pylon!** 2016-04-12, 08:24

Izzo signs his best recruiting class ever and people are whining about recruiting. Sound about right.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2016-04-12, 08:34

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:Izzo signs his best recruiting class ever and people are whining about recruiting. Sound about right.

I'm not whining.

by **Blanch32** 2016-04-12, 08:39

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:Izzo signs his best recruiting class ever and people are whining about recruiting. Sound about right.

I'm personally whining because we ran Clark off in the process, and for what? Hope izzo can convince him to transfer back to msu....

by **Watch Out Pylon!** 2016-04-12, 08:43

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
Watch Out Pylon! wrote:Izzo signs his best recruiting class ever and people are whining about recruiting. Sound about right.
I'm not whining.

That's why you're on my tor 5 Americans list Bob. Why can't Izzo close the deal on the highest profile recruits? - Page 2 969504605

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2016-04-12, 08:44

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:
I'm not whining.

That's why you're on my tor 5 Americans list Bob.

thanks, dude.. and you are one of mine! Why can't Izzo close the deal on the highest profile recruits? - Page 2 969504605

by **duffy munn** 2016-04-12, 08:46

Blanch32 wrote:
Watch Out Pylon! wrote:Izzo signs his best recruiting class ever and people are whining about recruiting. Sound about right.

I'm personally whining because we ran Clark off in the process, and for what? Hope izzo can convince him to transfer back to msu....

Dude, he's going to Duke or Carolina and will haunt us forever.

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