Evans and Sweat are gone.

by **NigelUno** Mon 18 Apr 2016 - 22:11

Ouch.

"have left the team for personal reasons effective immediately."

by **DWags** Mon 18 Apr 2016 - 22:18

Damn. Somebody needs to step the fuck up.

by **NigelUno** Mon 18 Apr 2016 - 22:20

Didn't somebody just switch to the DL?

Stallworth and/or Owens...I think.

by **Tim Wakefield** Mon 18 Apr 2016 - 22:22

Shit. Evans had potential to be all-conference.

by **NigelUno** Mon 18 Apr 2016 - 22:24

Tim Wakefield wrote:Shit. Evans had potential to be all-conference.

I guess you did have the scoop.

by **Blanch32** Mon 18 Apr 2016 - 22:27

This ain't good

by **SpartanInNH** Mon 18 Apr 2016 - 22:29

Chances = blown. Wish them the best, but Coach D is clear about his expectations. Some people just don't want to hear it.

by **Nordic** Mon 18 Apr 2016 - 22:31

No room for dudes that aren't all-in. Later Evans and Sweat are gone. 1362440668

by **Vlad** Mon 18 Apr 2016 - 22:36

Nordic wrote:No room for dudes that aren't all-in. Later

That's just something we say to make ourselves feel better. The reality is that we played with fire with the Evans, and we got burned.

Time to downgrade that recruiting class.

by **Nordic** Mon 18 Apr 2016 - 22:38

Vlad wrote:
Nordic wrote:No room for dudes that aren't all-in. Later

That's just something we say to make ourselves feel better. The reality is that we played with fire with the Evans, and we got burned.

Time to downgrade that recruiting class.

Nah... just being a realist. Dudes that aren't willing to put in the work and play by the rules aren't going to amount to much. Later bros.

How did we play with fire with Evans?

by **Tim Wakefield** Mon 18 Apr 2016 - 22:40

NigelUno wrote:
Tim Wakefield wrote:Shit. Evans had potential to be all-conference.

I guess you did have the scoop.

Wish i had been wrong but i'll give myself a half-pat on the back. I assumed Sweat was doing fine, just thought it was weird that Evans wasn't there.

by **Nordic** Mon 18 Apr 2016 - 22:41

Vlad wrote:
Time to downgrade that recruiting class.

lolz... who cares about 'crooting class rankings? Especially after the fact? Does Auburn and Ole Miss go back and adjust their rank after kids jump off to prep school because they can't qaulify, get kicked of the team, etc.?[/quote]

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** Mon 18 Apr 2016 - 22:42

Vlad wrote:
Nordic wrote:No room for dudes that aren't all-in. Later

That's just something we say to make ourselves feel better. The reality is that we played with fire with the Evans, and we got burned.

Time to downgrade that recruiting class.

For someone who doesn't follow football recruiting, how did we get burned on Evans?

Downgrade the recruiting class? Does that like mean I go back in my official msu coach hand book and drop dantonio a letter grade under the recruiting section for '12 then email him to let him know I did?

by **Vlad** Mon 18 Apr 2016 - 23:06

"After the fact" is exactly when you SHOULD care about recruiting classes. They all look good on signing day, but it don't mean shit on signing day, does it?

As for Evans, think back. I'm sure you'll recall some red flags, Even if you don't follow recruiting. (If you're a regular poster on an MSU message board, chances are you do follow recruiting, at least a little bit. You like to think that you're above it, but you're not.)

by **Nordic** Mon 18 Apr 2016 - 23:11

Vlad wrote:"After the fact" is exactly when you SHOULD care about recruiting classes. They all look good on signing day, but it don't mean shit on signing day, does it?

As for Evans, think back. I'm sure you'll recall some red flags, Even if you don't follow recruiting. (If you're a regular poster on an MSU message board, chances are you do follow recruiting, at least a little bit. You like to think that you're above it, but you're not.)

Right.... and you realize that we been to Rose, Cotton, etc. Should we re-rank those classes to make us feel good? Most classes have a lot of attrition, especially SEC classes that everyone jerks off to on signing day. Not sure I see the point of that exercise. After the Rose Bowl win, I didn't re-rank recruiting classes. I double fisted beers in Pasadena.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** Mon 18 Apr 2016 - 23:12

Vlad wrote:"After the fact" is exactly when you SHOULD care about recruiting classes. They all look good on signing day, but it don't mean shit on signing day, does it?

As for Evans, think back. I'm sure you'll recall some red flags, Even if you don't follow recruiting. (If you're a regular poster on an MSU message board, chances are you do follow recruiting, at least a little bit. You like to think that you're above it, but you're not.)

I really don't know. I think he was a wisconsin commit? but ok, don't really care enough to go looking. oh well. some other big black dude will come in and dominate instead. cool with me.

by **Nordic** Mon 18 Apr 2016 - 23:15

Vlad wrote:
As for Evans, think back. I'm sure you'll recall some red flags, Even if you don't follow recruiting. (If you're a regular poster on an MSU message board, chances are you do follow recruiting, at least a little bit. You like to think that you're above it, but you're not.)

I admittedly follow it. But I don't get worked up over it. You'll blast this comment like my previous one, but I want kids that want to be Spartans and willing to work over stars. Evans and Sweat apparently don't fall into that category. Every class on every team is going to have those have potential that don't come through. Oh well, move on.

by **NigelUno** Mon 18 Apr 2016 - 23:16

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:
Vlad wrote:"After the fact" is exactly when you SHOULD care about recruiting classes. They all look good on signing day, but it don't mean shit on signing day, does it?

As for Evans, think back. I'm sure you'll recall some red flags, Even if you don't follow recruiting. (If you're a regular poster on an MSU message board, chances are you do follow recruiting, at least a little bit. You like to think that you're above it, but you're not.)

I really don't know. I think he was a wisconsin commit? but ok, don't really care enough to go looking. oh well. some other big black dude will come in and dominate instead. cool with me.

I think we have a big white dude coming in also.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** Mon 18 Apr 2016 - 23:17

NigelUno wrote:
Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

I really don't know. I think he was a wisconsin commit? but ok, don't really care enough to go looking. oh well. some other big black dude will come in and dominate instead. cool with me.

I think we have a big white dude coming in also.

either one really. I feel like black dudes have been better on the d line for us.

by **NigelUno** Mon 18 Apr 2016 - 23:17

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

I think we have a big white dude coming in also.

either one really. I feel like black dudes have been better on the d line for us.

Jim Rinella disagrees.

by **Nordic** Mon 18 Apr 2016 - 23:20

FTR, would I rather have Evans on the team and kicking ass? Yep. But that is not in the cards apparently.

by **The_Dude** Mon 18 Apr 2016 - 23:30

Knox getting an extra year looms large and Stallworth moved to DT also.

by **duffy munn** Mon 18 Apr 2016 - 23:34

Nordic wrote:
Vlad wrote:"After the fact" is exactly when you SHOULD care about recruiting classes. They all look good on signing day, but it don't mean shit on signing day, does it?

As for Evans, think back. I'm sure you'll recall some red flags, Even if you don't follow recruiting. (If you're a regular poster on an MSU message board, chances are you do follow recruiting, at least a little bit. You like to think that you're above it, but you're not.)

Right.... and you realize that we been to Rose, Cotton, etc. Should we re-rank those classes to make us feel good? Most classes have a lot of attrition, especially SEC classes that everyone jerks off to on signing day. Not sure I see the point of that exercise. After the Rose Bowl win, I didn't re-rank recruiting classes. I double fisted beers in Pasadena.

Recruiting classes can only be re-ranked lower, never higher in Vlad's world.

by **tGreenWay** Mon 18 Apr 2016 - 23:51

Vlad wrote:
Nordic wrote:No room for dudes that aren't all-in. Later

That's just something we say to make ourselves feel better. The reality is that we played with fire with the Evans, and we got burned.

Time to downgrade that recruiting class.

This is the dumbest sentence I've read in quite awhile, and this is a board where Blanch is a regular poster. Seriously, who GAF?

by **NigelUno** Tue 19 Apr 2016 - 7:53

duffy munn wrote:
Nordic wrote:

Right.... and you realize that we been to Rose, Cotton, etc. Should we re-rank those classes to make us feel good? Most classes have a lot of attrition, especially SEC classes that everyone jerks off to on signing day. Not sure I see the point of that exercise. After the Rose Bowl win, I didn't re-rank recruiting classes. I double fisted beers in Pasadena.

Recruiting classes can only be re-ranked lower, never higher in Vlad's world.

I think Sweat was the lowest ranked recruit we signed that year. Taking him out of the class would probably make it better (in the recruiting rankings world). Did he ever play?

Not sure how we got burned with Evans either. He helped us win a Big Ten Championship. Got some new kids coming in that will get a great chance to play.

by Guest Tue 19 Apr 2016 - 7:53

Fred_Lee (584) 64 months PM UserFollow User 33 minutes ago

Victory Bell said....(original post)What was the story with Evans?

He consistently makes poor life choices, end of story.
=================

Pretty definitive answer and no surprise.

by Guest Tue 19 Apr 2016 - 8:32

What loss of Craig Evans and Montez Sweat means for Michigan State D-line

by DoogieHouser Tue 19 Apr 2016 - 8:34

No Sweat with Evans gone.

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:
Vlad wrote:

That's just something we say to make ourselves feel better. The reality is that we played with fire with the Evans, and we got burned.

Time to downgrade that recruiting class.

For someone who doesn't follow football recruiting, how did we get burned on Evans?

Downgrade the recruiting class? Does that like mean I go back in my official msu coach hand book and drop dantonio a letter grade under the recruiting section for '12 then email him to let him know I did?

You're really dumb.

by **WhiteBoyHatcher** Tue 19 Apr 2016 - 8:42

Doogie I bet Sabes woulda let him stay on the team, amirite?

by **Death Roe** Tue 19 Apr 2016 - 9:09

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:
Vlad wrote:

That's just something we say to make ourselves feel better. The reality is that we played with fire with the Evans, and we got burned.

Time to downgrade that recruiting class.

For someone who doesn't follow football recruiting, how did we get burned on Evans?

Downgrade the recruiting class? Does that like mean I go back in my official msu coach hand book and drop dantonio a letter grade under the recruiting section for '12 then email him to let him know I did?

Why do people still respond to Vlad the Vag? Dude gets his rocks off by bashing MSU football and hoops. Just ignore him.

by **Vlad** Tue 19 Apr 2016 - 9:26

Death Roe wrote:
Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

For someone who doesn't follow football recruiting, how did we get burned on Evans?

Downgrade the recruiting class? Does that like mean I go back in my official msu coach hand book and drop dantonio a letter grade under the recruiting section for '12 then email him to let him know I did?

Why do people still respond to Vlad the Vag? Dude gets his rocks off by bashing MSU football and hoops. Just ignore him.

Yes, please learn from DR, because he's really good at ignoring me. lol!

by **Robert J Sakimano** Tue 19 Apr 2016 - 9:30

headline idea for local newspapers:

"No Sweat"

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** Tue 19 Apr 2016 - 9:33

DoogieHouser wrote:No Sweat with Evans gone.
Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

For someone who doesn't follow football recruiting, how did we get burned on Evans?

Downgrade the recruiting class? Does that like mean I go back in my official msu coach hand book and drop dantonio a letter grade under the recruiting section for '12 then email him to let him know I did?

You're really dumb.

I may be dumb, but I don't browse bleacher report for information on 17 year old boys

by **Travis of the Cosmos** Tue 19 Apr 2016 - 9:37

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:
DoogieHouser wrote:No Sweat with Evans gone.

You're really dumb.

I may be dumb, but I don't browse bleacher report for information on 17 year old boys

Hey fuck you otpt. Doogie is your emotional, mental and physical superior. Get fuckin used to it.

by **NigelUno** Tue 19 Apr 2016 - 9:37

Robert J Sakimano wrote:headline idea for local newspapers:

"No Sweat"

There are still newspapers?

by **Robert J Sakimano** Tue 19 Apr 2016 - 9:45

NigelUno wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:headline idea for local newspapers:

"No Sweat"

There are still newspapers?

I see them around periodically.

also, the LSJ allows you to read a certain number of articles.. then they make you start paying. Evans and Sweat are gone. 1494614055

by **Vlad** Tue 19 Apr 2016 - 9:47

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:
DoogieHouser wrote:No Sweat with Evans gone.

You're really dumb.

I may be dumb, but I don't browse bleacher report for information on 17 year old boys

You don't have to. All you have to do is be a regular poster on a message board. All that stuff is brought to you, all in one place.

But you know this already. You're not dumb, you're just playing dumb.

by **Vlad** Tue 19 Apr 2016 - 9:50

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

There are still newspapers?
I see them around periodically.

also, the LSJ allows you to read a certain number of articles.. then they make you start paying.

Try the "SpartansXtra" app. You can read the same story three times there - once from the Freep, again from The News, and for good measure a third time from the LSJ.

by **Robert J Sakimano** Tue 19 Apr 2016 - 9:51

Vlad wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:I see them around periodically.

also, the LSJ allows you to read a certain number of articles.. then they make you start paying.

Try the "SpartansXtra" app. You can read the same story three times there - once from the Freep, again from The News, and for good measure a third from the LSJ.

I actually do feel bit bad for the newspaper industry. I'm not sure what the answer is for them but, clearly, there are so many avenues out there for people to get their news, sports, etc.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** Tue 19 Apr 2016 - 10:34

Vlad wrote:
Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

I may be dumb, but I don't browse bleacher report for information on 17 year old boys

You don't have to. All you have to do is be a regular poster on a message board. All that stuff is brought to you, all in one place.

But you know this already. You're not dumb, you're just playing dumb.

So Vlad, since you're pretty worked up about me not knowing Evans' baggage, how would I know anything about it?

I don't go on rcmb. This is the only board I post on. So I would have to go into the crootin thread, click one of gooses links, give a fuck to actually take in what some croot retweeter has to say about a guys ceiling.

Not trying to Nigel you, but it seems like you don't really know what the fuck you are talking about either.

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