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Post by Turtleneck 2016-05-25, 15:21

Jones' story illustrates a sobering fact about the nation's third-largest city: In the past three years, less than half of 1% of people arrested in Chicago saw an attorney while in police custody -- a possible violation of their constitutional legal rights -- according to statistics provided by the Chicago Police Department after CNN filed a request under the Freedom of Information Act.
Last month a task force assigned by Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel issued a scathing report about the practices of the police force on this issue. The Police Accountability Task Force (PATF) found that "CPD generally provides phone access (to arrestees) only at the end of processing, after interrogation and charging" and "when individuals in custody attempt to invoke their legal rights to counsel, they report facing hostility from police."

Meanwhile, the city is on edge over escalating gun violence. While overall crime in Chicago has dropped in the past three years; murders in the city have skyrocketed. Police department data show that 216 people were killed in the city through May 15 this year, up from 133 during the same period in 2015. Shootings incidents were also up 60%.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/25/us/chicago-police-arrests-civil-rights/index.html
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Post by xsanguine 2016-05-25, 15:28

Sounds like gun control works wonders.
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Post by Turtleneck 2016-05-25, 15:38

xsanguine wrote:Sounds like gun control works wonders.

I know this is painful for people to do, but the data does not support claims made by gun rights advocates. They are quick to tell you about all of the gun related homicides in Chicago. However, they leave out the part about the numbers being better than the 30 years prior to 2000. Between 1970 and 2000, Chicago had approximately 15 years with 800+ homicides. I am not saying that gun control changed anything, but it is odd how you are always sold a 1-5 year snapshot.
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Post by xsanguine 2016-05-25, 15:41

I know. I'm being contrarian. I'm a big rights/freedom guy... Just all around... But I point to NYC when gun rights advocates bring up Chicago, DC, Baltimore, etc. I don't like the argument that more guns equals less crime. I think there are better arguments for individual liberty.
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Post by Turtleneck 2016-06-05, 10:57

http://www.citylab.com/amp/article/485561/
The city of Chicago has released hundreds of videos, audio files, and documents involving police officers who’ve fired their weapons at citizens or have been accused of other misconduct.
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Post by Guest 2016-06-05, 11:52

Turtleneck wrote:
http://www.citylab.com/amp/article/485561/
The city of Chicago has released hundreds of videos, audio files, and documents involving police officers who’ve fired their weapons at citizens or have been accused of other misconduct.

An armed society is a polite society. IF the police knew all of those citizens were armed they would be much more careful.
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Post by Turtleneck 2017-01-13, 18:21

CHICAGO — The Chicago police have systematically violated the civil rights of residents by routinely using excessive force, a practice that particularly affects African-Americans and Latinos, the Justice Department said in a scathing report released on Friday, unveiling the findings of a 13-month investigation into the city’s police department.
The report, coming in the wake of the city’s highest murder rate in 20 years, laid out in chilling detail incidents in which police officers used unnecessary force against residents, including children.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/01/13/us/chicago-police-justice-department-report.html?_r=0&referer=
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Post by CheesySpartan 2017-01-13, 18:56

Turtleneck wrote:
CHICAGO — The Chicago police have systematically violated the civil rights of residents by routinely using excessive force, a practice that particularly affects African-Americans and Latinos, the Justice Department said in a scathing report released on Friday, unveiling the findings of a 13-month investigation into the city’s police department.
The report, coming in the wake of the city’s highest murder rate in 20 years, laid out in chilling detail incidents in which police officers used unnecessary force against residents, including children.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/01/13/us/chicago-police-justice-department-report.html?_r=0&referer=

More murders then NYC and LA combined but the problem is the cops. LMFAO
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Post by Turtleneck 2017-01-13, 19:12

CheesySpartan wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/01/13/us/chicago-police-justice-department-report.html?_r=0&referer=

More murders then NYC and LA combined but the problem is the cops.  LMFAO

I do not believe that was stated in the article or the DOJ report. Remember the time The Dude started that "95% of all jobs under Obama" thread, and you started pasting the link all over tSwill without actually reading the study? I think you are kind of doing something like that again.
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Post by Guest 2017-01-13, 21:19

CHICAGO — The Chicago police have systematically violated the civil rights of residents by routinely using excessive force, a practice that particularly affects African-Americans and Latinos, the Justice Department said in a scathing report released on Friday, unveiling the findings of a 13-month investigation into the city’s police department.

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Post by CheesySpartan 2017-01-13, 21:26

Turtleneck wrote:
CheesySpartan wrote:

More murders then NYC and LA combined but the problem is the cops.  LMFAO

I do not believe that was stated in the article or the DOJ report. Remember the time The Dude started that "95% of all jobs under Obama" thread, and you started pasting the link all over tSwill without actually reading the study? I think you are kind of doing something like that again.

From the article:

In 2016, there were 762 criminal homicides in Chicago, more than New York City and Los Angeles combined
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Post by CheesySpartan 2017-01-13, 21:34

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CHICAGO — The Chicago police have systematically violated the civil rights of residents by routinely using excessive force, a practice that particularly affects African-Americans and Latinos, the Justice Department said in a scathing report released on Friday, unveiling the findings of a 13-month investigation into the city’s police department.

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Post by Turtleneck 2017-01-13, 22:01

CheesySpartan wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:

I do not believe that was stated in the article or the DOJ report. Remember the time The Dude started that "95% of all jobs under Obama" thread, and you started pasting the link all over tSwill without actually reading the study? I think you are kind of doing something like that again.

From the article:

In 2016, there were 762 criminal homicides in Chicago, more than New York City and Los Angeles combined

Did you find in the article or the DOJ report where it states "the problem is the cops"? By itself, that data does not support your earlier point that people are saying "the problem is the cops." I think people can and should expect quality policing that is not otherwise extra-constitutional. Maybe you feel differently.
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Post by GRR Spartan 2017-01-14, 10:39

If you don't like Chicago don't live there and visit to give the city your tourist dollars. Fly out of DTW and book flights that don't connect at ORD or Midway.
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Post by Turtleneck 2017-06-28, 12:57

3 Chicago Police Officers Accused Of Cover-Up In Killing Of Laquan McDonald
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/06/27/534596557/3-chicago-police-officers-accused-of-cover-up-in-killing-of-laquan-mcdonald
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