Would you lock in 9-3 right now if you could?

by **The_Dude** 2016-05-31, 12:28

I think I would. Better shot at winning 7 than 11 imo.

by **Floyd Robertson** 2016-05-31, 12:32

Nope. I think we have a better chance of winning 10.

by **NigelUno** 2016-05-31, 12:33

The_Dude wrote:I think I would. Better shot at winning 7 than 11 imo.

In your case? Yes, I would lock in 9 for Michigan.

by **NigelUno** 2016-05-31, 12:33

Floyd Robertson wrote:Nope. I think we have a better chance of winning 10.

"we" means Michigan for The Dude.

by **duffy munn** 2016-05-31, 12:37

NigelUno wrote:
The_Dude wrote:I think I would. Better shot at winning 7 than 11 imo.

In your case? Yes, I would lock in 9 for Michigan.

Yep. Schedule is soft.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** 2016-05-31, 12:37

No way asshole. Natty or bust. Fucking self loathers.

by **Dr. Strangelove** 2016-05-31, 12:40

We're going 10-2 and then a decent bowl game.

Losses at ND and home vs tOSU

by **Blanch32** 2016-05-31, 12:46

9 and 3 doesn't get us anything, and we only beat the teams we should have in theory. With that said, I'm taking 11 and 1 no question. 10 and 2 requires thought

by **Blanch32** 2016-05-31, 12:47

Dr. Strangelove wrote:We're going 10-2 and then a decent bowl game.

Losses at ND and home vs tOSU

This is my thought as well; however I could see us choking 1 away as well simply because we haven't done that in a while

by **Rocinante** 2016-05-31, 12:50

LOL at this thread.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2016-05-31, 12:51

I'm just proud to be a Spartan and I really appreciate all the football team has done for me.

by **Vlad** 2016-05-31, 12:54

Close call. Assuming we lose to ND in the non-conference, that means we'd lose another 2 conference games, which likely would leave us out of the BTTG. So what are we "locking in" exactly?

Might as well let it ride and go for another conference title.

But 9-3 feels about right for this season, if that's what you're asking. Given the departures on the OL and DL, the recent attrition etc., it's logical to expect a step back.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** 2016-05-31, 12:54

Blanch32 wrote:
Dr. Strangelove wrote:We're going 10-2 and then a decent bowl game.

Losses at ND and home vs tOSU

This is my thought as well; however I could see us choking 1 away as well simply because we haven't done that in a while

We lost to 5-7 Nebraska after having a lead of however much in the fourth quarter...

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** 2016-05-31, 12:55

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
Blanch32 wrote:

This is my thought as well; however I could see us choking 1 away as well simply because we haven't done that in a while

We lost to 5-7 Nebraska after having a lead of however much in the fourth quarter...

I drunkenly threw my phone after that game. :(

by **Blanch32** 2016-05-31, 12:59

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
Blanch32 wrote:

This is my thought as well; however I could see us choking 1 away as well simply because we haven't done that in a while

We lost to 5-7 Nebraska after having a lead of however much in the fourth quarter...

Conversely, we also beat Oregon and osu.

...and we didn't lose the neb game, the refs gave it to them to ensure abother big ten bowl team

by **Blanch32** 2016-05-31, 13:00

Vlad wrote:Close call. Assuming we lose to ND in the non-conference, that means we'd lose another 2 conference games, which likely would leave us out of the BTTG. So what are we "locking in" exactly?

Might as well let it ride and go for another conference title.

But 9-3 feels about right for this season, if that's what you're asking. Given the departures on the OL and DL, the recent attrition etc., it's logical to expect a step back.

9 and 3 locks in "respect" although I'm not sure 8 and 4 wouldn't either....

by **Vlad** 2016-05-31, 13:01

Blanch32 wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

We lost to 5-7 Nebraska after having a lead of however much in the fourth quarter...

Conversely, we also beat Oregon and osu.

...and we didn't lose the neb game, the refs gave it to them to ensure abother big ten bowl team

C'mon Blanch, let it go. Our guys were sleepwalking through that entire game, including Cook.

by **NigelUno** 2016-05-31, 13:01

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
Blanch32 wrote:

This is my thought as well; however I could see us choking 1 away as well simply because we haven't done that in a while

We lost to 5-7 Nebraska after having a lead of however much in the fourth quarter...

Other than that though...

by **Blanch32** 2016-05-31, 13:04

Vlad wrote:
Blanch32 wrote:

Conversely, we also beat Oregon and osu.

...and we didn't lose the neb game, the refs gave it to them to ensure abother big ten bowl team

C'mon Blanch, let it go. Our guys were sleepwalking through that entire game, including Cook.

Despite the balant holds, and no LJ, I thought we were ok, and definitely winning either 4 or 5 to go.

That and our secondary was still decimated

by **duffy munn** 2016-05-31, 13:11

Blanch32 wrote: 10 and 2 requires thought

Nobody should hold their breathe.

by **The_Dude** 2016-05-31, 14:15

Vlad wrote:Close call. Assuming we lose to ND in the non-conference, that means we'd lose another 2 conference games, which likely would leave us out of the BTTG. So what are we "locking in" exactly?

Might as well let it ride and go for another conference title.

But 9-3 feels about right for this season, if that's what you're asking. Given the departures on the OL and DL, the recent attrition etc., it's logical to expect a step back.

I think 9-3 and a win against a Florida type overrated SEC team in a New Years day bowl game keeps MSUs image of a top program alive and well. 10-3 keeps the train rolling.

OTOH, will 2017 be a better year for MSU than 2016 on the field? Maybe with the 5th year QB this year we need to repeat?

by **The_Dude** 2016-05-31, 14:16

Blanch32 wrote:9 and 3 doesn't get us anything, and we only beat the teams we should have in theory. With that said, I'm taking 11 and 1 no question. 10 and 2 requires thought

That means not also losing to teams we shouldnt lose to.

by **Blanch32** 2016-05-31, 14:36

The_Dude wrote:
Blanch32 wrote:9 and 3 doesn't get us anything, and we only beat the teams we should have in theory. With that said, I'm taking 11 and 1 no question. 10 and 2 requires thought

That means not also losing to teams we shouldnt lose to.

True, but with the o line and qb, our expectations could change dramatically

by **NigelUno** 2016-05-31, 14:37

The_Dude wrote:
Vlad wrote:Close call. Assuming we lose to ND in the non-conference, that means we'd lose another 2 conference games, which likely would leave us out of the BTTG. So what are we "locking in" exactly?

Might as well let it ride and go for another conference title.

But 9-3 feels about right for this season, if that's what you're asking. Given the departures on the OL and DL, the recent attrition etc., it's logical to expect a step back.

I think 9-3 and a win against a Florida type overrated SEC team in a New Years day bowl game keeps MSUs image of a top program alive and well. 10-3 keeps the train rolling.

OTOH, will 2017 be a better year for MSU than 2016 on the field? Maybe with the 5th year QB this year we need to repeat?

So, coincidentally a season just like Michigan had last year? Would you lock in 9-3 right now if you could? 502811600

by **Vlad** 2016-05-31, 14:39

The_Dude wrote:
Vlad wrote:Close call. Assuming we lose to ND in the non-conference, that means we'd lose another 2 conference games, which likely would leave us out of the BTTG. So what are we "locking in" exactly?

Might as well let it ride and go for another conference title.

But 9-3 feels about right for this season, if that's what you're asking. Given the departures on the OL and DL, the recent attrition etc., it's logical to expect a step back.

I think 9-3 and a win against a Florida type overrated SEC team in a New Years day bowl game keeps MSUs image of a top program alive and well. 10-3 keeps the train rolling.

OTOH, will 2017 be a better year for MSU than 2016 on the field? Maybe with the 5th year QB this year we need to repeat?

Winning a NYD bowl game against a marquee opponent is still important, no doubt, but a high-profile opponent is never guaranteed. We could get matched up with a GTech or Houston type team where beating them on NYD would mean nothing in terms of perception.

Championships are the only things worth playing for in this era of college football.

by **Watch Out Pylon!** 2016-05-31, 14:41

How good is OSU supposed to be this year? They obviously lost a ton of talent.

by **Vlad** 2016-05-31, 14:45

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:How good is OSU supposed to be this year? They obviously lost a ton of talent.

We lost a ton of talent. OSU lost EVERYTHING. Hard to tell how good they'll be.

by **InTenSity** 2016-05-31, 14:45

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:How good is OSU supposed to be this year? They obviously lost a ton of talent.

That doesn't matter, MSU is the only college team that has to deal with attrition. Everyone else is fine because...crootin.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** 2016-05-31, 14:46

Vlad wrote:
The_Dude wrote:

I think 9-3 and a win against a Florida type overrated SEC team in a New Years day bowl game keeps MSUs image of a top program alive and well. 10-3 keeps the train rolling.

OTOH, will 2017 be a better year for MSU than 2016 on the field? Maybe with the 5th year QB this year we need to repeat?

Winning a NYD bowl game against a marquee opponent is still important, no doubt, but a high-profile opponent is never guaranteed. We could get matched up with a GTech or Houston type team where beating them on NYD would mean nothing in terms of perception.

Championships are the only things worth playing for in this era of college football.

I had a pretty good time watching us last year Vlad?

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2016-05-31, 14:48

I'm not worried.

by **The_Dude** 2016-05-31, 14:50

Blanch32 wrote:
The_Dude wrote:

That means not also losing to teams we shouldnt lose to.

True, but with the o line and qb, our expectations could change dramatically

Thats why I am saying 9-3 and then take our shot at a big bad SEC team in the Cap1 or Outback.

With our OL and QB, things could really stall on offense. Team I think teams will stack us against the run, and our OL isnt going to be able to move anyone on the better defenses. Only reason we weren't an 8 win team last year was Cook.

by **The_Dude** 2016-05-31, 14:53

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:How good is OSU supposed to be this year? They obviously lost a ton of talent.

OSU should be very good, especially by the time we play them

OSU and Bama in football just assume top 5 every year. With their coaches and recruiting. Plus OSU has Barrett coming back which is huge and he doesn't need to look over his shoulder.

by **NigelUno** 2016-05-31, 15:40

The_Dude wrote:
Blanch32 wrote:

True, but with the o line and qb, our expectations could change dramatically

Thats why I am saying 9-3 and then take our shot at a big bad SEC team in the Cap1 or Outback.

With our OL and QB, things could really stall on offense. Team I think teams will stack us against the run, and our OL isnt going to be able to move anyone on the better defenses. Only reason we weren't an 8 win team last year was Cook.

Huh. I seem to remember Cook missing the Ohio State game.

by **The_Dude** 2016-05-31, 15:48

NigelUno wrote:
The_Dude wrote:

Thats why I am saying 9-3 and then take our shot at a big bad SEC team in the Cap1 or Outback.

With our OL and QB, things could really stall on offense. Team I think teams will stack us against the run, and our OL isnt going to be able to move anyone on the better defenses. Only reason we weren't an 8 win team last year was Cook.

Huh. I seem to remember Cook missing the Ohio State game.

Defense won that game. Defense didnt win us many games lat year, but won the biggest two in Iowa and O$U

by **NigelUno** 2016-05-31, 16:35

The_Dude wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

Huh. I seem to remember Cook missing the Ohio State game.

Defense won that game. Defense didnt win us many games lat year, but won the biggest two in Iowa and O$U

Oh. Did Cook win the Michigan game?

by **The_Dude** 2016-05-31, 16:36

NigelUno wrote:
The_Dude wrote:

Defense won that game. Defense didnt win us many games lat year, but won the biggest two in Iowa and O$U

Oh. Did Cook win the Michigan game?

Yea.

by **DWags** 2016-05-31, 17:22

The_Dude wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

Huh. I seem to remember Cook missing the Ohio State game.

Defense won that game. Defense didnt win us many games lat year, but won the biggest two in Iowa and O$U

Except our offense kept the ball for 39 minutes. They had it for 21. 39 minutes our rookie QB moved the ball, often checking out of plays and keeping osu's offense on the sideline.

Defense was sharp when they had to be, but don't be a dumb ass as to how that game was won.

by **Vlad** 2016-05-31, 17:25

I'll just sum up my feelings by saying that, although not desirable, a 9-3 record will keep me off MD's back for another season.

(Yes Nigel, I'm kidding.)

by **Death Roe** 2016-05-31, 19:33

Blanch32 wrote:
Dr. Strangelove wrote:We're going 10-2 and then a decent bowl game.

Losses at ND and home vs tOSU

This is my thought as well; however I could see us choking 1 away as well simply because we haven't done that in a while

Uhh, Nebraska last year wasn't a choke?

by **Blanch32** 2016-05-31, 22:17

Death Roe wrote:
Blanch32 wrote:

This is my thought as well; however I could see us choking 1 away as well simply because we haven't done that in a while

Uhh, Nebraska last year wasn't a choke?

Not exactly. Officials played a MAJOR role in that one

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