John Calipari in favor of making league tourney a preseason event

by **NigelUno** 2016-06-01, 20:36

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/15885267/kentucky-wildcats-coach-john-calipari-suggests-moving-sec-tournament-november

by **Turtleneck** 2016-06-01, 20:46

Steve thinks this is a tremendous idea.

by Herbie Green 2016-06-01, 20:49

Do whatever you want. Who cares?

by **steveschneider** 2016-06-01, 21:15

Who cares as long as he gets the kids to turn pro fast mission accomplished. One semester of college is enough.

by **Blanch32** 2016-06-02, 07:40

This actually hurts him, but I agree with it conceptually. These tournaments only help true bubble Teams and that's it

by **DWags** 2016-06-02, 07:44

Blanch32 wrote:This actually hurts him, but I agree with it conceptually. These tournaments only help true bubble Teams and that's it

Well, there you have it, Blanch knows more about what's good for Kentucky than Calipari does. Who wouldn't agree with that?

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2016-06-02, 07:48

I'm totally opposed to the idea.

by **Floyd Robertson** 2016-06-02, 08:05

No need to play the regular season. UK can just win the preseason tournament and play hooky until March.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2016-06-02, 08:06

they cheat.

by **GRR Spartan** 2016-06-02, 08:16

Back in the day when the ACC was one of the only leagues with a post season tournament those extra games didn't stop them from winning NCAA tournament games.

Coaches in major conferences along with some major name coaches like Mark Few from smaller conferences are getting $1M and more to coach. That's all coming from TV revenue and shoe company money that wouldn't be there at such high levels without TV. The post season conference tournaments are money makers and wth smaller conferences a lottery ticket to play n the NCAA tournament.

by **Blanch32** 2016-06-02, 08:51

DWags wrote:
Blanch32 wrote:This actually hurts him, but I agree with it conceptually. These tournaments only help true bubble Teams and that's it

Well, there you have it, Blanch knows more about what's good for Kentucky than Calipari does. Who wouldn't agree with that?

Explain to me how it helps his teamson of freshmen then

by **I.B. Fine** 2016-06-02, 09:02

Floyd Robertson wrote:No need to play the regular season. UK can just win the preseason tournament and play hooky until March.

His team can declare for the draft in November, another recruiting edge for Cal.

by **DWags** 2016-06-02, 09:30

Blanch32 wrote:
DWags wrote:

Well, there you have it, Blanch knows more about what's good for Kentucky than Calipari does. Who wouldn't agree with that?

Explain to me how it helps his teamson of freshmen then

Fuck, I have no idea. Get it? Neither do you. Dumb ass.

by **I.B. Fine** 2016-06-02, 09:37

DWags wrote:
Blanch32 wrote:

Explain to me how it helps his teamson of freshmen then

Fuck, I have no idea. Get it? Neither do you. Dumb ass.

He's marketing to 16-17 year olds that have been told they're stars for years. What better way to sell it than to tell them they can go to Kentucky and be in the national spotlight the first month of the season. How they play as a team is irrelevant.

by **DWags** 2016-06-02, 09:43

I.B. Fine wrote:
DWags wrote:

Fuck, I have no idea. Get it? Neither do you. Dumb ass.

He's marketing to 16-17 year olds that have been told their stars for years. What better way to sell it than to tell them they can go to Kentucky and be in the national spotlight the first month of the season. How they play as a team is irrelevant.

For whatever reason, he thinks it's important to his team. I'm pretty utilitarian here. For practical reasons, I think it's not a good thing to play three games in basically two days or a 48 hour period the week before the first NCAA game. As much as we hate Michigan around here, they did get hot during the Conference tournament, but then had to play like 5 games including the play in in 7 days. They were beating ND, a sweet 16 team, at half and lost their legs in the secnd half I believe. MSU was damn tired after Purdue in the finals. Is it worth it? Who knows.

by **NigelUno** 2016-06-02, 10:09

Blanch32 wrote:
DWags wrote:

Well, there you have it, Blanch knows more about what's good for Kentucky than Calipari does. Who wouldn't agree with that?

Explain to me how it helps his teamson of freshmen then

You said it hurts his team. Now you want it explained how it helps his team.

When you figure out what you're talking about, let us know.

by **steveschneider** 2016-06-02, 11:04

Seems like his biggest gripe was the way that his team was seeded after winning the tournament.

Same thing with MSU, we should have been a 1 seed.

From a fans perspective, I've enjoyed watching the tournament when MSU makes it to the finals. They are usually some pretty exciting games.

I'd prefer we go back to the days where we win the conference and tank the tournament.

by **InTenSity** 2016-06-02, 11:06

I.B. Fine wrote:
DWags wrote:

Fuck, I have no idea. Get it? Neither do you. Dumb ass.

He's marketing to 16-17 year olds that have been told they're stars for years. What better way to sell it than to tell them they can go to Kentucky and be in the national spotlight the first month of the season. How they play as a team is irrelevant.

The best time for a tournament of some type would be second week of December. There is no way though that CBB is going to get any traction at the end of November, while CFB is going on and competing against the NFL. The national spotlight really starts in February after the Superbowl. Or not.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** 2016-06-02, 11:24

I like the conference tourneys. Little pregame to march madness. And we have won them lately. Fuck tanking. Win every game.

by **steveschneider** 2016-06-02, 11:34

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:I like the conference tourneys. Little pregame to march madness. And we have won them lately. Fuck tanking. Win every game.

Why? It's clear the selection committee isn't taking note of who wins their conference tourney (at least for the B10 and SEC) and it probably hurt both MSU and Purdue to play an all out slug fest days before the only tournament that matters.

by **Blanch32** 2016-06-02, 11:38

NigelUno wrote:
Blanch32 wrote:

Explain to me how it helps his teamson of freshmen then

You said it hurts his team. Now you want it explained how it helps his team.

When you figure out what you're talking about, let us know.

When you figure out sanity, let us all know

by **Blanch32** 2016-06-02, 11:40

steveschneider wrote:
Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:I like the conference tourneys. Little pregame to march madness. And we have won them lately. Fuck tanking. Win every game.

Why? It's clear the selection committee isn't taking note of who wins their conference tourney (at least for the B10 and SEC) and it probably hurt both MSU and Purdue to play an all out slug fest days before the only tournament that matters.

This.

We got fucked by playing MTSU since izzo refused to scout them and make any in game adjustments. He told us himself. We need cupcakes first game in.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** 2016-06-02, 11:41

steveschneider wrote:
Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:I like the conference tourneys. Little pregame to march madness. And we have won them lately. Fuck tanking. Win every game.

Why? It's clear the selection committee isn't taking note of who wins their conference tourney (at least for the B10 and SEC) and it probably hurt both MSU and Purdue to play an all out slug fest days before the only tournament that matters.

You're over thinking it. I like to watch hoops. I like to watch us win championships. And those high intensity games never hurt experience wise for the tourney.

Also a few years ago with draymond we earned a #1 seed with a win over OSU in the title game. So ya.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** 2016-06-02, 11:41

Blaming the conference tourney on losing to fucking MTSU is so weak blanch. Fucking millennials (Whoops that's not right !)

by **NigelUno** 2016-06-02, 12:06

Blanch32 wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

You said it hurts his team. Now you want it explained how it helps his team.

When you figure out what you're talking about, let us know.

When you figure out sanity, let us all know

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by **NigelUno** 2016-06-02, 12:10

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Blaming the conference tourney on losing to fucking MTSU is so weak blanch. Fucking millennials (Whoops that's not right !)

Calipari's end game is to give greater weight to the tournament (he was pissed at his seed). No way they play it at the beginning. He's just making a point...that people like blanch are too dumb to see.

by **Blanch32** 2016-06-02, 12:15

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Blaming the conference tourney on losing to fucking MTSU is so weak blanch. Fucking millennials (Whoops that's not right !)

It didn't help. Izzo was mentally shot to coach in the NCAA

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** 2016-06-02, 12:17

Blanch32 wrote:
Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Blaming the conference tourney on losing to fucking MTSU is so weak blanch. Fucking millennials (Whoops that's not right !)

It didn't help. Izzo was mentally shot to coach in the NCAA

You have sources inside izzos head nice

by **NigelUno** 2016-06-02, 12:29

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:
Blanch32 wrote:

It didn't help. Izzo was mentally shot to coach in the NCAA

You have sources inside izzos head nice

He hears voices inside his head.

Not really the same.

by **steveschneider** 2016-06-02, 14:14

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

Why? It's clear the selection committee isn't taking note of who wins their conference tourney (at least for the B10 and SEC) and it probably hurt both MSU and Purdue to play an all out slug fest days before the only tournament that matters.

You're over thinking it. I like to watch hoops. I like to watch us win championships. And those high intensity games never hurt experience wise for the tourney.

Also a few years ago with draymond we earned a #1 seed with a win over OSU in the title game. So ya.

I agree I like to watch the games. Re b10 conference finals vs. Purdue vs OSU was awesome. Even vs. Wisconsin was a good game but a frustrating outcome.

But for this year, the seeding was already determined, the brackets leaked prior to the selection show. The outcome of the tournament games didn't make a difference.

by **tGreenWay** 2016-06-02, 14:19

Fucking Steve.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** 2016-06-02, 14:37

tGreenWay wrote:Fucking Steve.

Loves all things Cal.

by **steveschneider** 2016-06-02, 14:43

by **Blanch32** 2016-06-02, 18:26

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:
Blanch32 wrote:

It didn't help. Izzo was mentally shot to coach in the NCAA

You have sources inside izzos head nice

I have eyes and watched 98% of all 0f izzo coached msu games

by **Blanch32** 2016-06-02, 18:28

steveschneider wrote:
Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

You're over thinking it. I like to watch hoops. I like to watch us win championships. And those high intensity games never hurt experience wise for the tourney.

Also a few years ago with draymond we earned a #1 seed with a win over OSU in the title game. So ya.

I agree I like to watch the games. Re b10 conference finals vs. Purdue vs OSU was awesome. Even vs. Wisconsin was a good game but a frustrating outcome.

But for this year, the seeding was already determined, the brackets leaked prior to the selection show. The outcome of the tournament games didn't make a difference.

And yet how much do these ADs make?

I'd love to mail it in when I have to present to corporate. "Sorry presentation had already been made"

by **steveschneider** 2016-06-02, 18:32

Blanch32 wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

I agree I like to watch the games. Re b10 conference finals vs. Purdue vs OSU was awesome. Even vs. Wisconsin was a good game but a frustrating outcome.

But for this year, the seeding was already determined, the brackets leaked prior to the selection show. The outcome of the tournament games didn't make a difference.

And yet how much do these ADs make?

I'd love to mail it in when I have to present to corporate. "Sorry presentation had already been made"

How much do the kids make playing conference tournament games? How much do caliparis players make when they get drafted by the NBA? More than an AD.

by Truth 2016-06-03, 09:44

meh, not a terrible idea for the big conferences. Small conferences need it at the end with the world of unbalances schedules.

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