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Post by Turtleneck Wed Jul 13, 2016 10:01 pm

I am not a murderer, Loose. Leave Bugs alone. I'll be happy to eat the vegetables.

I lived around some Amish in another part of Michigan for awhile. Nice furniture.
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Post by The Pantry Wed Jul 13, 2016 10:55 pm

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Turtleneck wrote:No shit contaminated milk is dangerous. I am talking about the fear peddlers that shove fake science at you, with blanket statements, that all raw milk is dangerous.

Good to see you come around, perhaps someday we can forage in Amish country.  Get us some freshly dressed rabbits and pulled straight from the horse shit vegetables to make a healthy stew.
Highly doubt the goofball has come around.  Next thing he'll be claiming is Trump for President.

He needs to provide a chain of evidence for what suddenly changed his mind.
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Post by xsanguine Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:40 pm

Turtleneck wrote:I am not a murderer, Loose. Leave Bugs alone. I'll be happy to eat the vegetables.

I lived around some Amish in another part of Michigan for awhile. Nice furniture.

Do the Amish make any more newer looking furniture (not like contemporary art shit)... just not beyond that 1850's look I think of when I think of Amish furniture.
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Post by tGreenWay Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:42 pm

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Blanch?

Stay out of this, old man.

Shouldn't you be in bed? You've got to be up at 4:30 am.
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Post by xsanguine Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:43 pm

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Stay out of this, old man.

Shouldn't you be in bed? You've got to be up at 4:30 am.

Not anymore... I almost broke my ankle. I'm out of commission for the week.
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Post by Turtleneck Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:45 pm

The Pantry wrote:
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Good to see you come around, perhaps someday we can forage in Amish country.  Get us some freshly dressed rabbits and pulled straight from the horse shit vegetables to make a healthy stew.
Highly doubt the goofball has come around.  Next thing he'll be claiming is Trump for President.

He needs to provide a chain of evidence for what suddenly changed his mind.

I don't need to provide anything. Everybody knows raw milk is deadly. It's common sense, dumbass.
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Post by tGreenWay Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:47 pm

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tGreenWay wrote:

Shouldn't you be in bed? You've got to be up at 4:30 am.

Not anymore... I almost broke my ankle. I'm out of commission for the week.

You almost broke your ankle means you didn't break your ankle. Stop being a pussy.
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Post by xsanguine Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:49 pm

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Not anymore... I almost broke my ankle. I'm out of commission for the week.

You almost broke your ankle means you didn't break your ankle. Stop being a pussy.

That's what I told them. But when I couldn't fit a boot over the swelling and the color gave me an argument to qualify for previously unavailable racial grants... they let working this week slide.

The doctor said it was a miracle I didn't break something landing from a 30 ft fall.



I did stand for 4 hours at a concert last night by myself. That wasn't bright.


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Post by Turtleneck Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:50 pm

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xsanguine wrote:

Not anymore... I almost broke my ankle. I'm out of commission for the week.

You almost broke your ankle means you didn't break your ankle. Stop being a pussy.

America has gone soft. We don't even drink death milk anymore.
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Post by Turtleneck Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:51 pm

xsanguine wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:

You almost broke your ankle means you didn't break your ankle. Stop being a pussy.

That's what I told them. But when I couldn't fit a boot over the swelling and the color gave me an argument to qualify for previously unavailable racial grants... they let working this week slide.

You sound like a Millenial.
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Post by xsanguine Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:52 pm

Turtleneck wrote:
xsanguine wrote:

That's what I told them. But when I couldn't fit a boot over the swelling and the color gave me an argument to qualify for previously unavailable racial grants... they let working this week slide.

You sound like a Millenial.

I even visited the fire department to make sure I installed the car seat properly (it was, thank you for your concern).
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Post by tGreenWay Thu Jul 14, 2016 12:02 am

xsanguine wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:

You almost broke your ankle means you didn't break your ankle. Stop being a pussy.

That's what I told them. But when I couldn't fit a boot over the swelling and the color gave me an argument to qualify for previously unavailable racial grants... they let working this week slide.

The doctor said it was a miracle I didn't break something landing from a 30 ft fall.



I did stand for 4 hours at a concert last night by myself. That wasn't bright.

Spit on it and rub it in the dirt. As for Natalie Merchant, time has not been her friend, but I still want to be her biggest sexual disappointment.
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Post by xsanguine Thu Jul 14, 2016 12:05 am

tGreenWay wrote:
xsanguine wrote:

That's what I told them. But when I couldn't fit a boot over the swelling and the color gave me an argument to qualify for previously unavailable racial grants... they let working this week slide.

The doctor said it was a miracle I didn't break something landing from a 30 ft fall.



I did stand for 4 hours at a concert last night by myself. That wasn't bright.

Spit on it and rub it in the dirt. As for Natalie Merchant, time has not been her friend, but I still want to be her biggest sexual disappointment.  

I saw her do a small club a few years ago and yes... her looks haven't held up over the years... but her talent certainly has. She told us she had strep throat and she sounded like an angel.

Still my favorite song of hers...



The way her voice cracks during the bridge hits me in the feels... she probably wasn't proud of it, but it worked (Adele does it a lot, too).
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Post by The Pantry Thu Jul 14, 2016 10:44 am

Turtleneck wrote:
The Pantry wrote:
Highly doubt the goofball has come around.  Next thing he'll be claiming is Trump for President.

He needs to provide a chain of evidence for what suddenly changed his mind.

I don't need to provide anything. Everybody knows raw milk is deadly. It's common sense, dumbass.
You're a fucking idiot
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Post by Turtleneck Thu Jul 14, 2016 10:56 am

The Pantry wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:

I don't need to provide anything. Everybody knows raw milk is deadly. It's common sense, dumbass.
You're a fucking idiot

You sound mad. Is your stomach ache making you angry?
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Post by tGreenWay Thu Jul 14, 2016 1:14 pm

xsanguine wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:

Spit on it and rub it in the dirt. As for Natalie Merchant, time has not been her friend, but I still want to be her biggest sexual disappointment.  

I saw her do a small club a few years ago and yes... her looks haven't held up over the years... but her talent certainly has. She told us she had strep throat and she sounded like an angel.

Still my favorite song of hers...



The way her voice cracks during the bridge hits me in the feels... she probably wasn't proud of it, but it worked (Adele does it a lot, too).

I'd love to see her in a small venue. She's perfect for club work. I saw her when the Maniacs opened for Elvis Costello at the MSU Aud in either '87 or '88. And I get the same tingles from her, even now.
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Post by xsanguine Thu Jul 14, 2016 1:50 pm

tGreenWay wrote:
xsanguine wrote:

I saw her do a small club a few years ago and yes... her looks haven't held up over the years... but her talent certainly has. She told us she had strep throat and she sounded like an angel.

Still my favorite song of hers...



The way her voice cracks during the bridge hits me in the feels... she probably wasn't proud of it, but it worked (Adele does it a lot, too).

I'd love to see her in a small venue. She's perfect for club work. I saw her when the Maniacs opened for Elvis Costello at the MSU Aud in either '87 or '88. And I get the same tingles from her, even now.

I would have been 4 or 5.... but I would have loved to be at that show.

A more upbeat (album version) of my favorite song.

I dunno what it is about the song, but I love it. And I don't listen to lyrics, I just hear syllables like any other instruments tones.... she could be talking about the difference between wheat and grain and if the melody is where it's at I'd think it's the most profound thing ever...

I dig that U2 use of delay in the 3rd/4th choruses. It's very effective. Songs moves slow... takes forever to just get to it.

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Post by Guest Thu Aug 04, 2016 10:00 pm

And the science shows.....barn germs are good for your kids.

Why the Amish could hold the key to curing asthma and allergies

For more than a decade, researchers have known that growing up on a farm somehow protects people from developing asthma and allergies. But they did not fully understand what it was about farm life that conferred this protection.

Whereas both live in agricultural communities, where dairy farming offers the main livelihood, the Hutterites live a little distance from their barns. While the men work there, the women and children rarely visit. Amish children and women, however, live close to the barns and frequently go in between house and barn, inadvertently tracking in dust rich in barn microbes.

“The conclusion was when you have these microbial exposures early in life, your innate system signals your adaptive system not to have asthma, not to have allergies,” Holbreich said. “We have an insight into how this whole process of developing allergies is happening."

Future studies will explore exactly what critical substance that Amish dust contains, with an eye to finding ways to prevent the development of allergies.
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher Thu Aug 04, 2016 10:25 pm

Hey FYI for you weirdos who are into this shit (Note - I'm neutral, I don't drink milk raw or otherwise. I just think you're all fucking weird for being so passionate about milk). My ultra conspiratorial buddy is into the raw milk thing and he said he owns a cow at some farm, and thus is able to get his shit milk from his cow legally. May want to look into it if you're that passionate about, you know, milk and stuff.
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Post by xsanguine Thu Aug 04, 2016 10:31 pm

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Hey FYI for you weirdos who are into this shit (Note - I'm neutral, I don't drink milk raw or otherwise. I just think you're all fucking weird for being so passionate about milk). My ultra conspiratorial buddy is into the raw milk thing and he said he owns a cow at some farm, and thus is able to get his shit milk from his cow legally. May want to look into it if you're that passionate about, you know, milk and stuff.

Having the freedom to choose what to put into your body is certainly weird. But that is good to know. Did he go into the cow with someone else? Or is it like....."his" cow?
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher Thu Aug 04, 2016 10:34 pm

xsanguine wrote:
WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Hey FYI for you weirdos who are into this shit (Note - I'm neutral, I don't drink milk raw or otherwise. I just think you're all fucking weird for being so passionate about milk). My ultra conspiratorial buddy is into the raw milk thing and he said he owns a cow at some farm, and thus is able to get his shit milk from his cow legally. May want to look into it if you're that passionate about, you know, milk and stuff.

Having the freedom to choose what to put into your body is certainly weird. But that is good to know. Did he go into the cow with someone else? Or is it like....."his" cow?

I think it's his. I can find out more info if you're interested.
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Post by xsanguine Thu Aug 04, 2016 10:36 pm

Don't go out of your way. I am casually interested, though. I dig the "back to the farm" type of movement.
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Post by tGreenWay Thu Aug 04, 2016 10:48 pm

xsanguine wrote:
WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Hey FYI for you weirdos who are into this shit (Note - I'm neutral, I don't drink milk raw or otherwise. I just think you're all fucking weird for being so passionate about milk). My ultra conspiratorial buddy is into the raw milk thing and he said he owns a cow at some farm, and thus is able to get his shit milk from his cow legally. May want to look into it if you're that passionate about, you know, milk and stuff.

Having the freedom to choose what to put into your body is certainly weird. But that is good to know. Did he go into the cow with someone else? Or is it like....."his" cow?

It's heartening to know you've switched positions and now support a woman's right to choose what goes in and comes out of her body.

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Post by Gomer Thu Aug 04, 2016 10:52 pm

LooseGoose wrote:And the science shows.....barn germs are good for your kids.

Why the Amish could hold the key to curing asthma and allergies

For more than a decade, researchers have known that growing up on a farm somehow protects people from developing asthma and allergies. But they did not fully understand what it was about farm life that conferred this protection.

Whereas both live in agricultural communities, where dairy farming offers the main livelihood, the Hutterites live a little distance from their barns. While the men work there, the women and children rarely visit. Amish children and women, however, live close to the barns and frequently go in between house and barn, inadvertently tracking in dust rich in barn microbes.

“The conclusion was when you have these microbial exposures early in life, your innate system signals your adaptive system not to have asthma, not to have allergies,” Holbreich said. “We have an insight into how this whole process of developing allergies is happening."

Future studies will explore exactly what critical substance that Amish dust contains, with an eye to finding ways to prevent the development of allergies.
Poor functionally illiterate Goose, always fucks things up in the translation.

I don't recall seeing anything in that article about "bad germs". They must have edited out the part about salmonella, listeria, and e. coli being good for you before I read it.

For anyone else who is playing along at home, a healthy microbiome, enriched by the exposure to microbe rich dust (none of which is known to harbor deadly pathogens transmitted by inhalation) is good for you.

Tongue punching a cow's asshole (AKA raw milk) a consuming lethal pathogens can be, well, lethal.
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Post by Gomer Thu Aug 04, 2016 10:53 pm

xsanguine wrote:Don't go out of your way. I am casually interested, though. I dig the "back to the farm" type of movement.
xsanguine wrote:Don't go out of your way. I am casually interested, though. I dig the "back to the farm" type of movement.
The good news for you, is that you can still go "back to the farm" and get safe milk that has been treated by a low-tech process developed and put into widespread use over a 100 years ago. Win win!
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Post by xsanguine Thu Aug 04, 2016 10:54 pm

I always thought milk came from the teets, though, Gomer?

Learn something new every day.
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Post by xsanguine Thu Aug 04, 2016 10:57 pm

Gomer wrote:
xsanguine wrote:Don't go out of your way. I am casually interested, though. I dig the "back to the farm" type of movement.
xsanguine wrote:Don't go out of your way. I am casually interested, though. I dig the "back to the farm" type of movement.
The good news for you, is that you can still go "back to the farm" and get safe milk that has been treated by a low-tech process developed and put into widespread use over a 100 years ago. Win win!

I can't disagree with that.

I don't have a dog in the fight other than having the freedom to make that choice rather than the choice being forced on you... but in many ways I find eating foods that are less processed to be healthier. That's just my personal experience, of course. So, like I said, I don't really have a position like the "pro" guys do... but at least let me do my research and make that decision for myself. That's all I ask.
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Post by xsanguine Thu Aug 04, 2016 10:58 pm

tGreenWay wrote:
xsanguine wrote:

Having the freedom to choose what to put into your body is certainly weird. But that is good to know. Did he go into the cow with someone else? Or is it like....."his" cow?

It's heartening to know you've switched positions and now support a woman's right to choose what goes in and comes out of her body.


Wait, wha?

I've never forced my penis into anyone's body, female or otherwise, and am pro-choice. What position of mine are you referring to?
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Post by Guest Thu Aug 04, 2016 10:59 pm

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Hey FYI for you weirdos who are into this shit (Note - I'm neutral, I don't drink milk raw or otherwise. I just think you're all fucking weird for being so passionate about milk). My ultra conspiratorial buddy is into the raw milk thing and he said he owns a cow at some farm, and thus is able to get his shit milk from his cow legally. May want to look into it if you're that passionate about, you know, milk and stuff.

Most likely a cow share - those have been around Michigan for 20+ years.
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher Thu Aug 04, 2016 11:00 pm

And this is what I mean. As much as some of you freaks love raw milk, Gomer hates it even more and is prepared to defend his position.

Y'all have fun.

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Post by Guest Thu Aug 04, 2016 11:00 pm

Gomer wrote:Poor functionally illiterate Goose, always fucks things up in the translation.

Tongue punching a cow's asshole (AKA raw milk) a consuming lethal pathogens can be, well, lethal.

The 1st sentence is rich in light of the last sentence. Stupid fucking Gomer thinks you get milk by licking a cow's ass.
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Post by tGreenWay Thu Aug 04, 2016 11:00 pm

xsanguine wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:

It's heartening to know you've switched positions and now support a woman's right to choose what goes in and comes out of her body.


Wait, wha?

I've never forced my penis into anyone's body, female or otherwise, and am pro-choice. What position of mine are you referring to?

My fault. Many apologies. I thought you'd argued against abortion rights. Any chance you did it when trolling?  Regardless--sorry, X.


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Post by Gomer Thu Aug 04, 2016 11:01 pm

xsanguine wrote:I always thought milk came from the teets, though, Gomer?

Learn something new every day.
The teats are downstream of the asshole. Gravity being what gravity is, shit flows downhill.
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Post by xsanguine Thu Aug 04, 2016 11:01 pm

You know, I created that thread about tongue punching asses in the uncensored Bin for a reason. We don't have pucker around here for that.
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Post by aualum06 Thu Aug 04, 2016 11:02 pm

Gomer wrote:
xsanguine wrote:I always thought milk came from the teets, though, Gomer?

Learn something new every day.
The teats are downstream of the asshole. Gravity being what gravity is, shit flows downhill.

Have you ever seen a cow poop?
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Post by tGreenWay Thu Aug 04, 2016 11:05 pm

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:And this is what I mean. As much as some of you freaks love raw milk, Gomer hates it even more and is prepared to defend his position.

Y'all have fun.

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Post by Guest Thu Aug 04, 2016 11:05 pm

Gomer wrote:
xsanguine wrote:I always thought milk came from the teets, though, Gomer?

Learn something new every day.
The teats are downstream of the asshole. Gravity being what gravity is, shit flows downhill.

Ever seen a cow shit Gomer? They don't shit in a V pattern.

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Note that under Gomer's "gravity theory" the shit would need to fly straight back out of the cow's ass fall 3-4 feet then curve forward and up to hit a teat. Tell us some more about how that works with gravity genius.
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Post by xsanguine Thu Aug 04, 2016 11:06 pm

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xsanguine wrote:

Wait, wha?

I've never forced my penis into anyone's body, female or otherwise, and am pro-choice. What position of mine are you referring to?

My fault. Many apologies. I thought you'd argued against abortion rights. Any chance you did it when trolling?  Regardless--sorry, X.

No worries. I do troll against my positions sometimes, so I may have.

I personally am against it... but that's just me. If a woman conceives and for whatever reason does not want to go through with it I think she should have every legal right, up to some point that I wouldn't be able to determine, to do as she chooses. So I could have made a confusing case at the time (wouldn't be the first, second, third, or fourth time) and that may have even been the bulk of my explanation, which would further confuse the issue.
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Post by Gomer Thu Aug 04, 2016 11:07 pm

The other thing Goose won't tell you, because he's amongst the stupidest of fucks, is the very article he just shared contradicts all of the magical powers his ilk have imbued upon cowshit milk.

The idea about raw milk was always "Look at the amish, they drink raw milk and don't have allergies. Raw milk is AWESOME WOW JEES YUM COW SHIT MILK!"

But correlation is not causation and this article drives that home!

Many patients came to him, complaining of allergies, but when he tested them, he learned few actually had allergies. In 2012, he published a study showing that a mere 7 percent of Amish children had been sensitized to common allergens, such as cats, dogs or mold. In the general population, about 45 percent of people tend to show such sensitivities.

Suggesting that genetics alone could not explain this difference, Hutterite children -- who shared a similar diet, lifestyle (no pets, no television), and genetics -- had a sensitivity prevalence closer to that of the general participation. One of the few factors that distinguish Hutterites from Amish, however, is their farming style.

Whereas both live in agricultural communities, where dairy farming offers the main livelihood, the Hutterites live a little distance from their barns. While the men work there, the women and children rarely visit. Amish children and women, however, live close to the barns and frequently go in between house and barn, inadvertently tracking in dust rich in barn microbes.

Two similar populations with the same lifestyles both drinking cowshit milk. But only one of them doesn't have allergies. Turns out it might be the dust. Harmless dust!!! Whodathunkdit! You don't need drink cowshit milk after all! Just go to the petting zoo every once in a while Good news: Path to legalization for raw milk sellers - Page 2 502811600
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Post by xsanguine Thu Aug 04, 2016 11:09 pm

Gomer wrote:
xsanguine wrote:I always thought milk came from the teets, though, Gomer?

Learn something new every day.
The teats are downstream of the asshole. Gravity being what gravity is, shit flows downhill.

But are they typically always leaking onto their teets? I figured milking a cow wouldn't be that gross... but I've never even been that up close to a cow so I get all my cow milking techniques from television and the internet. Passing by in a car is as close as I've gotten.
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