Re: 2017/18 Hoops Thread - Unfinished Business.

by Guest Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:33 pm

Chris Vannini‏Verified account @ChrisVannini 20h20 hours ago
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In another world, Hayward’s foul on Draymond is called, MSU beats Duke to win title, Izzo goes to the Cavs, and Brad Stevens is MSU's coach.

by **Death Roe** Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:38 pm

LooseGoose wrote:Chris Vannini‏Verified account @ChrisVannini 20h20 hours ago
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In another world, Hayward’s foul on Draymond is called, MSU beats Duke to win title, Izzo goes to the Cavs, and Brad Stevens is MSU's coach.

;.;

by **tGreenWay** Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:43 pm

LooseGoose wrote:Chris Vannini‏Verified account @ChrisVannini 20h20 hours ago
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In another world, Hayward’s foul on Draymond is called, MSU beats Duke to win title, Izzo goes to the Cavs, and Brad Stevens is MSU's coach.

But would TI have survived long enough to enjoy LBJ's return home? Would Stevens still be coaching MSU?

by Guest Thu Jul 06, 2017 11:41 am

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Excited for this season? 2017-18 Izzone memberships are now on sale at http://msuspartans.com/STX . For more info visit http://msuspartans.com/studentsections .

by Guest Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:15 pm

Luke Srodulski‏ @lsrodulski 28m28 minutes ago
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News from over the weekend: Michigan State is the favorite to win the 2018 NCAA Tournament.

College basketball odds: Michigan State listed as favorite to win 2018 national championship

by SawGreen Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:00 pm

LooseGoose wrote:Luke Srodulski‏ @lsrodulski 28m28 minutes ago
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News from over the weekend: Michigan State is the favorite to win the 2018 NCAA Tournament.

College basketball odds: Michigan State listed as favorite to win 2018 national championship

Saw it, hate it. I can't think of the last time one of these predictions came true (especially for MSU). But, it should create some prime-time viewing for awhile.

by **Floyd Robertson** Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:05 pm

SawGreen wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:Luke Srodulski‏ @lsrodulski 28m28 minutes ago
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News from over the weekend: Michigan State is the favorite to win the 2018 NCAA Tournament.

College basketball odds: Michigan State listed as favorite to win 2018 national championship

Saw it, hate it. I can't think of the last time one of these predictions came true (especially for MSU). But, it should create some prime-time viewing for awhile.

We can drop a couple of early games, drop to about 12th and lay in the weeds.

by **DWags** Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:08 pm

Floyd Robertson wrote:
SawGreen wrote:

Saw it, hate it. I can't think of the last time one of these predictions came true (especially for MSU). But, it should create some prime-time viewing for awhile.

We can drop a couple of early games, drop to about 12th and lay in the weeds.

When you have puddin bridges Langford Jackson Winston Tom Izzo you ain't lying in weeds. You're taking agent orange to those fuckers.

by Guest Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:11 pm

DWags wrote:
Floyd Robertson wrote:

We can drop a couple of early games, drop to about 12th and lay in the weeds.

When you have puddin bridges Langford Jackson Winston Tom Izzo you ain't lying in weeds. You're taking agent orange to those fuckers.

I'm with Wags. 41-0.

by **Nordic** Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:05 pm

Some great tidbits of info on Tillman in this one...

https://www.landof10.com/michigan-state/michigan-state-xavier-tillman-school-basketball-fatherhood

...The past year has been full of moves showing his maturity. On Dec. 3, he and Todd welcomed “Yanni” into the world. On May 10, they got engaged, with plans to marry after college. And Monday marked their two-year anniversary, dating back to just before their junior year of high school: Tillman at Grand Rapids (Mich.) Christian, Todd at Northview....

...“I wanted to cut them for more professional reasons,” Tillman explained. “[My teammates] were like, ‘You know what? It’s a tradition here that everyone here has that professional look. You’re going to cut it eventually.’ ...

by **Death Roe** Tue Jul 11, 2017 7:58 am

by Guest Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:42 pm

Dan Dakich‏Verified account @dandakich 4m4 minutes ago
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My man @SethOnHoops Top 3
1- MSU
2- Az
3- Duke based on talent
Final 4 Darkhorse
Villanova

by Guest Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:46 pm

For Xavier Tillman, a timely reminder that he's not the biggest kid anymore

by Herbie Green Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:49 pm

DWags wrote:
Floyd Robertson wrote:

We can drop a couple of early games, drop to about 12th and lay in the weeds.

When you have puddin bridges Langford Jackson Winston Tom Izzo you ain't lying in weeds. You're taking agent orange to those fuckers.

I am holding you to this Dwags. No excuses or lectures

by **DWags** Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:18 pm

Herbie Green wrote:
DWags wrote:

When you have puddin bridges Langford Jackson Winston Tom Izzo you ain't lying in weeds. You're taking agent orange to those fuckers.

I am holding you to this Dwags. No excuses or lectures

I will stand by the fact that we won't be "lying in the weeds". I do think however, you somehow believe this team can sneak up on people. I'd love to hear you explain that. We're 6-1 odds to win the NC, we're pre-season favorites to win the BT and go very deep, so exactly WTF do you mean we will be able to "lie in the weeds"? I'm very curious as to how we will do that.

by Herbie Green Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:42 pm

DWags wrote:
Herbie Green wrote:

I am holding you to this Dwags. No excuses or lectures

I will stand by the fact that we won't be "lying in the weeds". I do think however, you somehow believe this team can sneak up on people. I'd love to hear you explain that. We're 6-1 odds to win the NC, we're pre-season favorites to win the BT and go very deep, so exactly WTF do you mean we will be able to "lie in the weeds"? I'm very curious as to how we will do that.

1. The team is too young
2. lack of wing depth
3. Izzo will lose games on purpose to teach lessons for later and if you dont understand this then you are not a real fan
4. Officiating
5. Injuries
6. Too much adversity
7. Leadership

by **DWags** Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:11 pm

Herbie Green wrote:
DWags wrote:

I will stand by the fact that we won't be "lying in the weeds". I do think however, you somehow believe this team can sneak up on people. I'd love to hear you explain that. We're 6-1 odds to win the NC, we're pre-season favorites to win the BT and go very deep, so exactly WTF do you mean we will be able to "lie in the weeds"? I'm very curious as to how we will do that.

1. The team is too young ---- Rated 6:1 to win it all (while young, they can't hide)
2. lack of wing depth -- favored to win the BT (While depth is lacking, can't hide)
3. Izzo will lose games on purpose to teach lessons for later and if you dont understand this then you are not a real fan - Will wear the jerseys that say "State" every game (While he might fuck with the lineups, the opponent will still know who they're playing, can't hide)
4. Officiating -- Rules of the NCAA (No pick up allowed, can't hide from it)
5. Injuries (This might be the only way they "hide" from another team, if we have a spate of injuries and some team lets down it's guard because we're using managers.)
6. Too much adversity ---- so they hate each other big deal (other teams don't care, can't hide)
7. Leadership --- Lacking leadership, doesn't take away who is wearing the jersey's,
they're damn good players (teams know that too, can't hide)

Herb, I don't think you and I are thinking about what "lying in the weeds" means in the same way. Do you think teams will take this team lightly? Because only one of your 7 really gives us a chance to "sneak up" on a team. The other 6 don't mean one thing as far as being able to "sneak up" on a team by lying in the weeds. This team is heavy favorites in Vegas to win a NC, how the hell do they "lie in the weeds"? Are other teams that dumb?

by **NigelUno** Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:17 pm

DWags wrote:
Herbie Green wrote:

1. The team is too young ---- Rated 6:1 to win it all (while young, they can't hide)
2. lack of wing depth -- favored to win the BT (While depth is lacking, can't hide)
3. Izzo will lose games on purpose to teach lessons for later and if you dont understand this then you are not a real fan - Will wear the jerseys that say "State" every game (While he might fuck with the lineups, the opponent will still know who they're playing, can't hide)
4. Officiating -- Rules of the NCAA (No pick up allowed, can't hide from it)
5. Injuries (This might be the only way they "hide" from another team, if we have a spate of injuries and some team lets down it's guard because we're using managers.)
6. Too much adversity ---- so they hate each other big deal (other teams don't care, can't hide)
7. Leadership --- Lacking leadership, doesn't take away who is wearing the jersey's,
they're damn good players (teams know that too, can't hide)

Herb, I don't think you and I are thinking about what "lying in the weeds" means in the same way. Do you think teams will take this team lightly? Because only one of your 7 really gives us a chance to "sneak up" on a team. The other 6 don't mean one thing as far as being able to "sneak up" on a team by lying in the weeds. This team is heavy favorites in Vegas to win a NC, how the hell do they "lie in the weeds"? Are other teams that dumb?

I think it's actually more of an early Chicken Little list.

by **DWags** Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:21 pm

NigelUno wrote:
DWags wrote:

Herb, I don't think you and I are thinking about what "lying in the weeds" means in the same way. Do you think teams will take this team lightly? Because only one of your 7 really gives us a chance to "sneak up" on a team. The other 6 don't mean one thing as far as being able to "sneak up" on a team by lying in the weeds. This team is heavy favorites in Vegas to win a NC, how the hell do they "lie in the weeds"? Are other teams that dumb?

I think it's actually more of an early Chicken Little list.

yeah, I think he's so excited to bitch, moan or argue that he lost the meaning of "lying in the weeds" as Floyd and I started out with. I'm lost with his posts, but what else is new?

by **duffy munn** Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:30 pm

Herbie Green wrote:
DWags wrote:

I will stand by the fact that we won't be "lying in the weeds". I do think however, you somehow believe this team can sneak up on people. I'd love to hear you explain that. We're 6-1 odds to win the NC, we're pre-season favorites to win the BT and go very deep, so exactly WTF do you mean we will be able to "lie in the weeds"? I'm very curious as to how we will do that.

1. The team is too young
2. lack of wing depth
3. Izzo will lose games on purpose to teach lessons for later and if you dont understand this then you are not a real fan
4. Officiating
5. Injuries
6. Too much adversity
7. Leadership

1.) there is no such thing as too young in college basketball anymore. You should watch some college basketball over the last, I don't know, 20 years. Most of the stars are freshmen and sophmores.

2.) McQuaid and Ahrens are going to surprise you. Bridges is going to play 35 minutes.

3.) Funny

4.) Can't control what the refs do. Or worry about it.

5.) Legit for every team in every sport every year.

6.) What? Of course their will be adversity. This just in, it's freaking hard to win it all. I'll take an Izzo team facing adversity over almost anyone.

7.) Believe it or not, this team's undisputed leader is Tum. While his minutes will go down, his teammates love him and respect him. Also watch Winston, he seems like a natural leader as well. Bridges came back for one reason so he will certainly lead.

by Herbie Green Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:32 pm

DWags wrote:
Herbie Green wrote:

1. The team is too young ---- Rated 6:1 to win it all (while young, they can't hide)
2. lack of wing depth -- favored to win the BT (While depth is lacking, can't hide)
3. Izzo will lose games on purpose to teach lessons for later and if you dont understand this then you are not a real fan - Will wear the jerseys that say "State" every game (While he might fuck with the lineups, the opponent will still know who they're playing, can't hide)
4. Officiating -- Rules of the NCAA (No pick up allowed, can't hide from it)
5. Injuries (This might be the only way they "hide" from another team, if we have a spate of injuries and some team lets down it's guard because we're using managers.)
6. Too much adversity ---- so they hate each other big deal (other teams don't care, can't hide)
7. Leadership --- Lacking leadership, doesn't take away who is wearing the jersey's,
they're damn good players (teams know that too, can't hide)

Herb, I don't think you and I are thinking about what "lying in the weeds" means in the same way. Do you think teams will take this team lightly? Because only one of your 7 really gives us a chance to "sneak up" on a team. The other 6 don't mean one thing as far as being able to "sneak up" on a team by lying in the weeds. This team is heavy favorites in Vegas to win a NC, how the hell do they "lie in the weeds"? Are other teams that dumb?

I just thought we should get it out of the way now in case we lose a bunch of games. It seems like we end up doing it almost every single season. 2001 is about the only season I can think of where we just rolled from start to finish.

by **NigelUno** Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:33 pm

Herbie Green wrote:
DWags wrote:

Herb, I don't think you and I are thinking about what "lying in the weeds" means in the same way. Do you think teams will take this team lightly? Because only one of your 7 really gives us a chance to "sneak up" on a team. The other 6 don't mean one thing as far as being able to "sneak up" on a team by lying in the weeds. This team is heavy favorites in Vegas to win a NC, how the hell do they "lie in the weeds"? Are other teams that dumb?

I just thought we should get it out of the way now in case we lose a bunch of games. It seems like we end up doing it almost every single season. 2001 is about the only season I can think of where we just rolled from start to finish.

Early Chicken Little list confirmed.

by Herbie Green Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:34 pm

NigelUno wrote:
DWags wrote:

Herb, I don't think you and I are thinking about what "lying in the weeds" means in the same way. Do you think teams will take this team lightly? Because only one of your 7 really gives us a chance to "sneak up" on a team. The other 6 don't mean one thing as far as being able to "sneak up" on a team by lying in the weeds. This team is heavy favorites in Vegas to win a NC, how the hell do they "lie in the weeds"? Are other teams that dumb?

I think it's actually more of an early Chicken Little list.

Hey look, it is Captain Hindsight himself. Do you have a prediction for last season yet?

by **DWags** Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:38 pm

Herbie Green wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

I think it's actually more of an early Chicken Little list.

Hey look, it is Captain Hindsight himself. Do you have a prediction for last season yet?

I'd just like to know if you really think this team can "hide in the weeds" on other teams or that you are trying to turn that saying into something else.

by **NigelUno** Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:46 pm

Herbie Green wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

I think it's actually more of an early Chicken Little list.

Hey look, it is Captain Hindsight himself. Do you have a prediction for last season yet?

Oh, Chicken Herb. You are so silly.

I said they would make the NCAA Tournament.

You said they would make the NIT.

by Herbie Green Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:47 pm

I say they will win the national championship. What do you got?

by **DWags** Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:51 pm

Herbie Green wrote:I say they will win the national championship. What do you got?

And that's how you say they'll "lay in the weeds"?

Ok. If it makes sense to you. I guess.

by **NigelUno** Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:52 pm

Herbie Green wrote:I say they will win the national championship. What do you got?

The National Invitational Tournament Championship?

by Herbie Green Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:57 pm

NigelUno wrote:
Herbie Green wrote:I say they will win the national championship. What do you got?

The National Invitational Tournament Championship?

Your prediction please

by **DWags** Wed Jul 12, 2017 3:07 pm

Herbie Green wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

The National Invitational Tournament Championship?

Your prediction please

I predict most teams will be fired up to play us and we'll have their full attention. You?

by Herbie Green Wed Jul 12, 2017 3:13 pm

DWags wrote:
Herbie Green wrote:

Your prediction please

I predict most teams will be fired up to play us and we'll have their full attention. You?

Could that potentially be the top excuse later?

by **NigelUno** Wed Jul 12, 2017 3:18 pm

Herbie Green wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

The National Invitational Tournament Championship?

Your prediction please

CHICKEN LITTLE HERBIE!!!

by **DWags** Wed Jul 12, 2017 3:20 pm

Herbie Green wrote:
DWags wrote:

I predict most teams will be fired up to play us and we'll have their full attention. You?

Could that potentially be the top excuse later?

I get you didn't understand the whole "lying in the weeds" thing.

by **Nordic** Wed Jul 12, 2017 3:29 pm

LooseGoose wrote:For Xavier Tillman, a timely reminder that he's not the biggest kid anymore

We are going to board so much

by **WhiteBoyHatcher** Wed Jul 12, 2017 3:44 pm

Herbie didn't argue we were lying in the weeds did he?

by Herbie Green Wed Jul 12, 2017 4:46 pm

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Herbie didn't argue we were lying in the weeds did he?

I think there are message board posters laying in the weeds.

by **DWags** Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:00 pm

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Herbie didn't argue we were lying in the weeds did he?

Herbie is pretty thick. Somehow he turned my lying in the weeds to giving me a list of how this team might lose games. I got lost in his anger.

by Guest Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:16 pm

Let me settle this.

If you're the preseason #1 and the Las Vegas favorite it's impossible to be in the weeds.

by Guest Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:25 pm

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You can own a section of Michigan State basketball's court for $20

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The MSU Surplus Store, 468 Green Way, in East Lansing is selling 4-by-4 sections of the team's practice floor beginning at 7:30 a.m. on Friday.(Courtesy Photo | MSU Surplus Store)

by **tGreenWay** Thu Jul 13, 2017 6:15 pm

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You can own a section of Michigan State basketball's court for $20

The MSU Surplus Store, 468 Green Way, in East Lansing is selling 4-by-4 sections of the team's practice floor beginning at 7:30 a.m. on Friday.(Courtesy Photo | MSU Surplus Store)

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