Re: The Official Swill CFP Poll (sponsored by 538)

by **Death Roe** Sun Dec 04, 2016 7:29 pm

Herbie Green wrote:
Death Roe wrote:I look at that big fat number after the 11. It's a 2.

Penn State shouldn't have scheduled Pitt, and they'd be the 3 seed like OSU is. Plain and simple. It's pretty evident that you can get in with a soft non-con like Washington did.

So you can say with a straight face that the two that is a result of a non-conference game in September outweighs the actual head-to-head result of the two teams and the championship they play in?

I would just like that confirmed that is the actual reasoning.

You're calling ME stupid for having a different rational thought, when you have been eviscerated multiple times on this board.

Got it. Maybe I'll say this site sucks, cry to Blanch, and leave like you threaten to do. Byeeeeeee! :)

by **steveschneider** Sun Dec 04, 2016 7:44 pm

NigelUno wrote:
steveschneider wrote:So was it good the year Michigan jumped MSU to make it to the BCS bowl game when we beat Michigan in the regular season?

I believe there was a rule that you had to be ranked (so) high in the BCS rankings to make a BCS game. We were not (since we lost in the Big Ten Championship, and had 3 losses). Michigan was. You had to be top 14. We were 17. Michigan was 13. The bigger scam was the Sugar Bowl taking Va Tech over Boise State.

That (in part) led to the creation of the CFP (and the NY6 games).

This system is better than that system.

I like the sports I follow to be settled by wins and losses not politics and drama.

by Herbie Green Sun Dec 04, 2016 7:45 pm

Death Roe wrote:
Herbie Green wrote:

So you can say with a straight face that the two that is a result of a non-conference game in September outweighs the actual head-to-head result of the two teams and the championship they play in?

I would just like that confirmed that is the actual reasoning.

You're calling ME stupid for having a different rational thought, when you have been eviscerated multiple times on this board.

Got it. Maybe I'll say this site sucks, cry to Blanch, and leave like you threaten to do. Byeeeeeee! :)

I generally stick to sports discussion, ie "trolling", while you resort to personal attacks. Don't think I called you dumb, really wouldn't be necessary

by **Death Roe** Sun Dec 04, 2016 7:46 pm

Well, Herbie, you definitely were insinuating it.

I'm going to complain more about this site.

by **NigelUno** Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:56 pm

Herbie Green wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

Clearly they aren't.

That is just quoting the result we are arguing about. I would post pictures of the OSU-PSU scoreboard and PSU holding the championship trophy.

Post whatever you want.

They are not clearly better.

It is not clear they are better.

If it was clear, they would be ranked higher than Ohio State.

Not a difficult concept.

by CheesySpartan Sun Dec 04, 2016 9:19 pm

Herbie Green wrote:
Death Roe wrote:I look at that big fat number after the 11. It's a 2.

Penn State shouldn't have scheduled Pitt, and they'd be the 3 seed like OSU is. Plain and simple. It's pretty evident that you can get in with a soft non-con like Washington did.

So you can say with a straight face that the two that is a result of a non-conference game in September outweighs the actual head-to-head result of the two teams and the championship they play in?

I would just like that confirmed that is the actual reasoning.

OSU beat UW and OU on the road and UM (who, prior to that game, I believed was the best BIG in my limited eye-test). No one else has those wins including AL

by CheesySpartan Sun Dec 04, 2016 9:31 pm

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:
CheesySpartan wrote:

BTW...Planning on going to/been to a Nuggets game yet? Denver doesnt feel like a hoops town to me but IDK

Been to two. One against the Pistons. No one really gives a fuck about the nuggets right now but people appreciate their young core they got goin. See if they can put it all together. I don't mind it, cheap tickets when I want to see the best professional league in the country.

Nice! Enjoy. If you can, check out 2/3/17 Nuggets (home) vs Bucks. The Greek Freak is worth the price of admission (biased but check the stats in the article) IMO. Tickets should be reasonable since Milwaukee is still building. Its a Friday night. Should be fun.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/weve-never-seen-a-player-quite-like-giannis-antetokounmpo/?addata=espn:frontpage

by **WhiteBoyHatcher** Sun Dec 04, 2016 9:50 pm

Why are we still arguing about this? Who cares.

Is PSU clearly better than UM? It's close. We already know and accept that the committee is crooked.

by **Tim Wakefield** Sun Dec 04, 2016 10:59 pm

Herbie Green wrote:Are some of you guys closet PSU haters or do you just watch this crap on ESPN and are brainwashed?

I just can't see how you can make this logical argument. Imean I do see how - you think that OSU's 11-1 is better than PSU's 11-2 which boils down to OSU beating Oklahoma and Pitt beating PSU in September. And that this somehow outweighs PSU beating OSU on the football field, yes the very two teams we are comparing and, and further outweighs PSU's conference championship in the conference both of these teams play in.

To me it is not even close at all, a head to head win and a championship over a non-conference game.

I don't think anyone here is very quiet about their hatred for PSU. I hate them more than UM. But they did get hosed in my opinion.

Not saying i'm upset about them getting hosed, for the recrod

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** Sun Dec 04, 2016 11:04 pm

NigelUno wrote:
Herbie Green wrote:

That is just quoting the result we are arguing about. I would post pictures of the OSU-PSU scoreboard and PSU holding the championship trophy.

Post whatever you want.

They are not clearly better.

It is not clear they are better.

If it was clear, they would be ranked higher than Ohio State.

Not a difficult concept.

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by **DWags** Sun Dec 04, 2016 11:23 pm

Let's for a moment say Uofm beat Iowa and PSU beat Pitt.

Who is in the championship game?

by **NigelUno** Sun Dec 04, 2016 11:35 pm

DWags wrote:Let's for a moment say Uofm beat Iowa and PSU beat Pitt.

Who is in the championship game?

I think this was discussed. If UM beat Iowa, PSU would have been eliminated based on their loss to Pitt (assuming OSU beat UM), and OSU would have gone.

If PSU hadn't lost to Pitt (and there was a 3 way tie)...

http://www.bigten.org/sports/m-footbl/archive/081011aaa.html

6. The representative will be chosen by random draw.

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by **DWags** Sun Dec 04, 2016 11:38 pm

NigelUno wrote:
DWags wrote:Let's for a moment say Uofm beat Iowa and PSU beat Pitt.

Who is in the championship game?

I think this was discussed. If UM beat Iowa, PSU would have been eliminated based on their loss to Pitt (assuming OSU beat UM), and OSU would have gone.

If PSU hadn't lost to Pitt (and there was a 3 way tie)...

http://www.bigten.org/sports/m-footbl/archive/081011aaa.html

6. The representative will be chosen by random draw.

Holy shit that would have been a random draw? That would have been awesome.

by **NigelUno** Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:11 pm

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