Do you think you will see the repeal of the 2nd amendment in your lifetime?

by Jor El Sat 31 May 2014 - 19:29

I think there is a very good chance someone in their 20s right now will live to see it.

by **DWags** Sat 31 May 2014 - 19:34

They can take my gun from my cold dead hands.

Or not.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** Sat 31 May 2014 - 19:36

A guy walked into a school and executed an entire class of 6 year olds. Nothing changed.

It's never going to happen.

by Three_Putt_Par Sat 31 May 2014 - 19:39

I doubt it will be repealed, but it will continue to be interpreted differently as time goes on. The language in the 2nd Amendment leaves a lot of room for SCOTUS to play with its meaning.

by **DWags** Sat 31 May 2014 - 19:39

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:A guy walked into a school and executed an entire class of 6 year olds. Nothing changed.

It's never going to happen.

We could hope that happens at an NRA convention, or would that be wrong?

Of course it would be horrible but very ironic.

by **Turtleneck** Sat 31 May 2014 - 19:50

No. 3/4 of the states must ratify an amendment. I do not see this happening. In fact, I do not see 2/3 of Congress (or 2/3 of a national convention) proposing such an amendment any time soon

by Spartan Nachos Sat 31 May 2014 - 20:42

No. Once you start fucking with the constitution, this country will go to shit in a hurry.

by WCS Sat 31 May 2014 - 20:51

Spartan Nachos wrote:No. Once you start fucking with the constitution, this country will go to shit in a hurry.

well, it's an amendment and the constitution is designed to be changed. It's a living document.

That being said, there aren't enough stupid Americans to get rid of that amendment.

by **Jake from State Farm** Sat 31 May 2014 - 20:51

The 4th amendment has been pretty much trashed. Wouldn't surprise me to see the 2nd go next.

by Dolph Ziggler Sat 31 May 2014 - 20:53

I just don't see it happening. I have no interest in ever owning a gun, but I understand why people do, and their rationale for them being legal. Most of which are pretty unrelated to the reasons in the second amendment. It is basically written as a defense from tyrannical governments, so a government taking that away would be kinda fucked up. I don't know, Brock. How about DeWitt girls' golf?

by **Snake Plissken** Sat 31 May 2014 - 21:08

Three_Putt_Par wrote:I doubt it will be repealed, but it will continue to be interpreted differently as time goes on. The language in the 2nd Amendment leaves a lot of room for SCOTUS to play with its meaning.

Totally agree

by Bill S. Preston, Esquire Sat 31 May 2014 - 21:14

Sweet. We have people in this country that don't care that our government can read their email, texts, listen to phone calls, download all files from their phone, track their daily habits, and want to rid the populace of any and all self defense.

Seems like a great idea.

I bet many of these same idiots still think we took over Iraq for "freedom".

by Guest Sat 31 May 2014 - 21:30

Jor El wrote:I think there is a very good chance someone in their 20s right now will live to see it.

Not a chance.

by LoneWolfSparty Sat 31 May 2014 - 21:32

I know I won't live to see it because I'll die before I let it happen.

by Gob Bluth Sat 31 May 2014 - 21:38

Nope. Too much $$$ from the NRA and other gun nuts. And too much hilarious "tough talk" from guys like LoneWolf. I'd hate to see that come to an end.

by Dolph Ziggler Sat 31 May 2014 - 21:43

Warning Intruders: After you steal my stuff with no resistance from me, I'm probably going to call the cops and hope for the best, then make an insurance claim.

by WCS Sat 31 May 2014 - 21:46

Gob Bluth wrote:Nope. Too much $$$ from the NRA and other gun nuts. And too much hilarious "tough talk" from guys like LoneWolf. I'd hate to see that come to an end.

Too much common sense from the American people...the nutters on the left will never legally over turn the 2nd amendment.

by WCS Sat 31 May 2014 - 21:49

Dolph Ziggler wrote:Warning Intruders: After you steal my stuff with no resistance from me, I'm probably going to call the cops and hope for the best, then make an insurance claim.

Warning to the tyrants...after you send your armed agents to take my property, I will hashtag the Hell out of you on Twitter!

by **y2kMgrad** Sat 31 May 2014 - 23:10

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Very ambiguous sentence.

by **WBill** Sat 31 May 2014 - 23:17

So making guns illegal will keep them out of the hands of criminals......How is that working with drugs ?

by Pervis Muldoon Sat 31 May 2014 - 23:26

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:A guy walked into a school and executed an entire class of 6 year olds. Nothing changed.

It's never going to happen.

Exactly. Too many politicians are cowards.

by Guest Sat 31 May 2014 - 23:44

Gob Bluth wrote:Nope. Too much $$$ from the NRA and other gun nuts. And too much hilarious "tough talk" from guys like LoneWolf. I'd hate to see that come to an end.

Always with the "nuts" and "crazies" to describe anyone that disagrees with the Leftists.

Ever wonder which wing of today's politics that the Founding Fathers would consider crazy?

I'm sure they'd be down with gay marriage, government paid sex change operations, abortion on demand, etc, etc.

by PreMadonna Sat 31 May 2014 - 23:52

WBill wrote:So making guns illegal will keep them out of the hands of criminals......How is that working with drugs ?

It won't, until we decide we are willing to pay the costs of enforcing these laws.
Want a gun, fine, commit a crime while carrying, life imprisonment w/o parole.

Of course that means another 5 or so prisons in Michigan. Willing to pay for this?

I am.

by **tTy** Sun 1 Jun 2014 - 0:11

Why don't we just ban everything that has ever killed something and then we could all live happily ever after forever!

by **tTy** Sun 1 Jun 2014 - 0:13

PreMadonna wrote:

It won't, until we decide we are willing to pay the costs of enforcing these laws.
Want a gun, fine, commit a crime while carrying, life imprisonment w/o parole.

Of course that means another 5 or so prisons in Michigan. Willing to pay for this?

I am.

I thought you hippies were into rehabilitating these fuckers and setting them free, not locking them up and throwing away the key. Hell, if we're going to do that, we minus well use their own gun to kill them, then destroy the gun and call it good!

by Guest Sun 1 Jun 2014 - 0:30

tTy wrote:Why don't we just ban everything that has ever killed something and then we could all live happily ever after forever!

Problem for the gun grabbers with that is that knives kill 4X the people per year that shotguns or rifle do....and they all own knives.
Fists kill double the people each year that shotguns or rifles do and they all have fists they would prefer not to lose. And don't even talk to them about confiscating their cars even though car accidents kill many more people per year than all guns.

by **DWags** Sun 1 Jun 2014 - 0:39

Nobody wants to ban fucking guns. But no reasonable person has ever been able to explain to me why is so fucking easy to get shit at gun shows and suck.

Meh, whatever. Fuk it. My rights fear government bad people will have guns protect my house blah blah blah. It won't change. We've lost our minds and can't reason with each other so I guess it's best just to arm ourselves.

I'll bet anyone a case of beer that by this time next year we have another mass shooting by a guy who picked up a gun at a gun show somewhere and is mad at the world. I'll also bet it happens in our country before some other country.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** Sun 1 Jun 2014 - 0:42

Lmao at lone wolf response what a badass Do you think you will see the repeal of the 2nd amendment in your lifetime? 1966794946

Joke

by Guest Sun 1 Jun 2014 - 0:51

DWags wrote:Nobody wants to ban fucking guns. But no reasonable person has ever been able to explain to me why is so fucking easy to get shit at gun shows and suck.

Meh, whatever. Fuk it. My rights fear government bad people will have guns protect my house blah blah blah. It won't change. We've lost our minds and can't reason with each other so I guess it's best just to arm ourselves.

I'll bet anyone a case of beer that by this time next year we have another mass shooting by a guy who picked up a gun at a gun show somewhere and is mad at the world. I'll also bet it happens in our country before some other country.

He didn't buy his at a gun show, he bought them all legally in CA - a state with some of the strictest gun laws in the nation.

Also FYI like the term "assault rifle" the great "gun show loophole" is a politician/media created myth. Seeing that he killed his 1st 3 victims with a knife perhaps we need to look into the "knife show loophole" too?

by **Death Roe** Sun 1 Jun 2014 - 0:53

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Lmao at lone wolf response what a badass

Joke

LOL I didn't see that response earlier. He's definitely the most intimidating person on here.

by **y2kMgrad** Sun 1 Jun 2014 - 0:58

LooseGoose wrote:

He didn't buy his at a gun show, he bought them all legally in CA - a state with some of the strictest gun laws in the nation.

Also FYI like the term "assault rifle" the great "gun show loophole" is a politician/media created myth. Seeing that he killed his 1st 3 victims with a knife perhaps we need to look into the "knife show loophole" too?

Do you think it's more difficult to commit a mass murder with a knife?

by Guest Sun 1 Jun 2014 - 0:59

y2kMgrad wrote:

Do you think it's more difficult to commit a mass murder with a knife?

I doubt degree of difficulty matters much to the victims.

by **y2kMgrad** Sun 1 Jun 2014 - 1:01

LooseGoose wrote:

I doubt degree of difficulty matters much to the victims.

Would there be more or less victims if the killer had to use a knife?

by Guest Sun 1 Jun 2014 - 1:10

y2kMgrad wrote:

Would there be more or less victims if the killer had to use a knife?

There's no way to know that. I believe the "record" for a knife mass murder is 27, is that enough gore?

The last mass murder in Santa Barbara happened in the same area as this one, the guy used a car to kill 4 people and got out in 10 years. I guess people don't hold cars against people like they do guns?

It was Feb. 23, 2001, when David Attias — a then-University of California-Santa Barbara freshman and son of Hollywood director Daniel Attias — plowed his turbo-charged Saab into a group of young adults in the same Isla Vista neighborhood of the coastal community, killing four and permanently injuring another before climbing atop the car and declaring himself "the Angel of Death." Charged with murder, he was found not guilty by reason of insanity and sent to a state mental institution. He was released in 2012, having been locked away for slightly more than two years for each of his dead victims.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/05/30/01-santa-barbara-killer-walks-free-as-families-relive-carnage-13-years-later/?intcmp=latestnews

by **y2kMgrad** Sun 1 Jun 2014 - 1:17

LooseGoose wrote:

There's no way to know that. I believe the "record" for a knife mass murder is 27, is that enough gore?

The last mass murder in Santa Barbara happened in the same area as this one, the guy used a car to kill 4 people and got out in 10 years. I guess people don't hold cars against people like they do guns?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/05/30/01-santa-barbara-killer-walks-free-as-families-relive-carnage-13-years-later/?intcmp=latestnews

So, in your opinion, it's just as easy to kill something with a knife or car as it is a gun?

by **Travis of the Cosmos** Sun 1 Jun 2014 - 1:18

LooseGoose wrote:

He didn't buy his at a gun show, he bought them all legally in CA - a state with some of the strictest gun laws in the nation.

Also FYI like the term "assault rifle" the great "gun show loophole" is a politician/media created myth. Seeing that he killed his 1st 3 victims with a knife perhaps we need to look into the "knife show loophole" too?

How many times in a row did you get off when you heard he killed someone with a knife too?

by Guest Sun 1 Jun 2014 - 1:21

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:How many times in a row did you get off when you heard he killed someone with a knife too?

Zero. Asshole.

It takes a special kind of jerk to accuse someone of celebrating an innocent victims death.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** Sun 1 Jun 2014 - 1:25

LooseGoose wrote:

Zero. Asshole.

It takes a special kind of jerk to accuse someone of celebrating an innocent victims death.

K.

by **DWags** Sun 1 Jun 2014 - 1:28

LooseGoose wrote:

Zero. Asshole.

It takes a special kind of jerk to accuse someone of celebrating an innocent victims death.

Cool. Keep all your guns. Bad Government , get guns legally, knifes kill too. So do cars. My rights. Assault rifles lied about. Whatever. Your side wins. Always will.

Wanna bet me by this time next year a mass shooting happens again? And the next one will be in our country before another country?

Like I say, we've list reason in this country and we ain't going back. Too much hate. No big deal, just stY armed and ready.

by Guest Sun 1 Jun 2014 - 1:34

DWags wrote:Wanna bet me by this time next year a mass shooting happens again? And the next one will be in our country before another country?

Like I say, we've list reason in this country and we ain't going back. Too much hate.

I agree. They'll continue here no matter what. If you want to cut down the frequency it might be smart to deal with the root cause. Mental health. Tucson - nutcase. Aurora - nutcase. Newtown - nutcase. Santa Barbara - nutcase. ALL of them had been treated for mental health issues. People knew they were a threat in every case and nothing was done to stop them. Nothing can be done because of the changes in the laws that don't allow involuntary commitment in most cases.

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