The Sexual Predator Is Now Launching an Investigation into Voter Fraud..

LooseGoose wrote:And the States don't want to give up the data so we're asked to trust them on this. And the left will in this case since they agree.

You're comfortable with them asking for party affiliation? That request sits well with you?

msugolfguy wrote:

LooseGoose wrote:And the States don't want to give up the data so we're asked to trust them on this. And the left will in this case since they agree.

You're comfortable with them asking for party affiliation? That request sits well with you?

How can you expect them to come up with recommendations to more effectively limit specific voter groups than already exist without all that information?

Its ironic that some of the same people who campaign against requiring more ID being required for people to purchase firearms at gun shows think the states providing all their data to the Federal government is okay.

LooseGoose wrote:And the States don't want to give up the data so we're asked to trust them on this. And the left will in this case since they agree.

Ladies and gentlemen I give you the guy who calls himself a conservative.

A situational conservative

Growing Pile of Data Shows That Voter Fraud Is a Real and Vast Problem

This week, The Heritage Foundation is updating its Voter Fraud Database with 89 new entries, including 75 convictions and a slew of overturned elections and civil fines targeting vote fraudsters.

With these latest additions, the database now documents 581 cases of proven voter fraud and 848 criminal convictions.

Heritage’s database proves not only that voter fraud is real and ongoing, but also that it is not isolated to any particular state or region.

With the addition of cases from Nebraska and Oklahoma—two states previously unaccounted for in the database—Heritage now has documented proof of electoral fraud in 47 states. This truly is a problem that spans the nation.

The evidence is mounting, and it is incontrovertible—yet many liberals still refuse to acknowledge the gravity of the problem, or even admit that it exists at all. Voter fraud-deniers paint election integrity efforts as little more than smoke screens for “voter suppression.”

Their political games have consequences: By opposing or seeking to overturn commonsense measures like voter identification laws and efforts to clean up outdated and inaccurate voter rolls in the states, liberals are actually making it much easier for fraudsters to steal votes and for corrupt politicians to rig elections and negate legitimate votes cast by eligible citizens—effectively disenfranchising them.

How’s that for irony?

he Daily Signal is an American political journalism news website founded in June 2014. The publication focuses on politics, policy, and culture and offers political commentary from a conservative perspective. It is published by conservative think tank The Heritage Foundation.

The media are covering the announcement that Heritage will launch The Daily Signal next month to reach more Americans with a conservative message.

Here’s a roundup of some of the reporting:

Politico explains that Heritage “is planning to launch a new news service that will cater to a conservative audience.”
Bloomberg says The Daily Signal could help Heritage reach new audiences.
Poynter, a website about journalism, says The Daily Signal doesn’t have the limitations of many other news sites.
USA Today says Heritage is “hoping to assert itself as another influential voice in the conservative media.”
Mediate reports that The Daily Signal will be “free of ‘wild, liberal bias.'”
Capital New York offers a more skeptical take.
In the Capital notes that The Daily Signal is aiming to reach Millennials.
The Nation, a liberal magazine, says The Daily Signal is “(yet another) right wing news site.”
The Wall Street Journal says The Daily Signal “will aim to fill what its creators see as a void in American journalism. “
Gawker notes that the site will be free of advertising.
Free Speech TV says, tongue in cheek, that it “just can’t wait” for The Daily Signal.
The Washington Post includes the news about The Daily Signal in a daily roundup
The American Prospect, a left-wing magazine, says The Daily Signal is a sign of conservative desperation.
The Washington Times says The Daily Signal will be “an aggressive and straightforward news site created by the Heritage Foundation and aimed at the computers, tablets and mobile devices of an increasingly alarmed public.”
TPM reports that “The Heritage Foundation wants a piece of the digital news pie.”

Is that 581 proven cases out of the 128,838,341 ballots cast in the 2016 presidential election? Oh wait, it is not 581 proven cases out of the 128,838,341 ballots cast in the 2016 presidential election. Click on the link to the database. Some of the cases go back to 2002. So it is 581 cases in national elections stretching back over a decade? Oh wait, 581 cases in national elections stretching back over a decade. Click on the link to the database. There is a municipal election among the cases of voter fraud. So it is 581 cases in city, state, and national elections stretching back over a decade?

Fucking sheep. It just gets tiring how stupid some people are. But very entertaining.

DWags wrote:Fucking sheep.  It just gets tiring how stupid some people are. But very entertaining.  

It is kind of funny. Once again, Loose did not look at what was linked to in the story, or did not expect anybody to here look (I think he works under the assumption we are all as lazy as he is). 581 cases in city, state, and national elections dating back to 2002.

Turtleneck wrote:

DWags wrote:Fucking sheep.  It just gets tiring how stupid some people are. But very entertaining.  

It is kind of funny. Once again, Loose did not look at what was linked to in the story, or did not expect anybody to here look (I think he works under the assumption we are all as lazy as he is). 581 cases in city, state, and national elections dating back to 2002.

I'm the lone holdout about his troll vs smarts but I'm wavering. The idiots who vote for trump will champion that believe that and spread that.

... just like goose...

Hey, wait a minute

Nearly 20% of Rhode Island Registered Voters Live Out of State

Before you read this, you should remember the following:

There is no such thing as voter fraud.

Even if there is, it's very, very rare.

Did I mention there was no such thing as voter fraud?

That may be true. But what's amazing is that, despite growing evidence that our voter registration system is an open invitation to fraudsters, the left is completely incurious about whether we have a big problem with voter fraud. In fact, they get hysterical if you suggest purging the registration rolls of dead people and people who move out of state -- as if the dead could come back to life or people decide they miss their home so much they move back in state just to cast a ballot.

It's a massive problem. And Rhode Island may be a poster child illustrating it.

The Daily Caller:

The Providence Journal reports that Rhode Island Secretary of State Nellie Gorbea conducted an audit of the state’s voter registry and identified some 150,000 non-Rhode Islanders registered to vote in the state. Gorbea says this group of non-state residents is primarily composed of citizens who have since moved to other jurisdictions or died and does not suggest widespread fraud.
“It’s not really fraud,” Gorbea told the Journal. “It’s really just inaccuracies.”

Well that makes me feel better.

Goose you left a couple paragraphs out of your cut and paste.

1. Did any of the dead residents or those who have moved out and weren't removed from the voter registration rolls vote?

Yes or no?

2. If a non dead voter who moved to another state voted in that state, did they also vote in RI?

Yes or no?

3. If there is potential for fraud because of dead or transients people voting, could we use social security numbers to register everybody and more efficiently remove them when they moved or died. Automatic registration for EVERYBODY? (The right would live that)

Yes or no?

Finally, if you're concerned about dead or transient people voting (who didn't) are you at all concerned about our CIA, FBI, NSA, and other branches of national security stating our biggest foreign enemy and greatest threat to our lives and livelihood did indeed hack in and fuck with our election? Or is that bullshit?

DWags wrote:

Goose you left a couple paragraphs out of your cut and paste.

1. Did any of the dead residents or those who have moved out and weren't removed from the voter registration rolls vote?

Yes or no?

2. If a non dead voter who moved to another state voted in that state, did they also vote in RI?

Yes or no?

3. If there is potential for fraud because of dead or transients people voting, could we use social security numbers to register everybody and more efficiently remove them when they moved or died. Automatic registration for EVERYBODY? (The right would live that)

Yes or no?

Finally, if you're concerned about dead or transient people voting (who didn't) are you at all concerned about our CIA, FBI, NSA, and other branches of national security stating our biggest foreign enemy and greatest threat to our lives and livelihood did indeed hack in and fuck with our election? Or is that bullshit?

Fair use.

We don't know or I missed it in the 2 articles. I'll bet some did, it happens on a small scale nationwide so why not RI?

We don't know but for those double registered in FL I think they once determined about 20% voted in both places.

That might work, photo ID might too.Why not do it if you really believe in election integrity?

Directly from the Providence Journal, which was the source of the story.

Secretary of State Nellie M. Gorbea has identified roughly 150,000 people erroneously on the state’s voters rolls and has begun to clean them up, she told The Providence Journal on Tuesday.

Nearly 65,000 names have been removed since Gorbea took office in 2015, and another 30,000 have been marked as “inactive,” a first step toward removing them.

“It’s not really fraud,” Gorbea said. “It’s really just inaccuracies.”

When people move, especially when it’s not near an election, people often forget to tell voter registration officials that they’re gone, she said.

Goose once again too lazy to read the source material.

Melissa McCarthy?

LooseGoose wrote:

DWags wrote:

Goose you left a couple paragraphs out of your cut and paste.

1. Did any of the dead residents or those who have moved out and weren't removed from the voter registration rolls vote?

Yes or no?

2. If a non dead voter who moved to another state voted in that state, did they also vote in RI?

Yes or no?

3. If there is potential for fraud because of dead or transients people voting, could we use social security numbers to register everybody and more efficiently remove them when they moved or died. Automatic registration for EVERYBODY? (The right would live that)

Yes or no?

Finally, if you're concerned about dead or transient people voting (who didn't) are you at all concerned about our CIA, FBI, NSA, and other branches of national security stating our biggest foreign enemy and greatest threat to our lives and livelihood did indeed hack in and fuck with our election? Or is that bullshit?

Fair use.

We don't know or I missed it in the 2 articles. I'll bet some did, it happens on a small scale nationwide so why not RI?

We don't know but for those double registered in FL I think they once determined about 20% voted in both places.

That might work, photo ID might too.Why not do it if you really believe in election integrity?

Link to the 20% of voters in Florida?

Also, I'd love to lip off a billion from that wall and get everyone a voter id. We'd show the world. Think the right would go for it?

I'll look for the Florida story. In the meantime you can tell me which states charge people for Voter ID.

Knuckledraggers or purposefully registering in 2 locations for nefarious reasons?

The News' investigation also found: Of the 46,000 registered in both states, 68% are Democrats, 12% are Republicans and 16% didn't claim a party. Nearly 1,700 of those registered in both states requested that absentee ballots be mailed to their home in the other state, where they are also registered. But that doesn't raise red flags with officials in either place. Efforts to prevent people from registering and voting in more than one state rely mostly on the honor system. New registrants are required to supply a prior address, which kicks in a notification process to election officials in the other jurisdiction. Officials also cross-check change-of-address records from the U.

LooseGoose wrote:Knuckledraggers or purposefully registering in 2 locations for nefarious reasons?

The News' investigation also found: Of the 46,000 registered in both states, 68% are Democrats, 12% are Republicans and 16% didn't claim a party. Nearly 1,700 of those registered in both states requested that absentee ballots be mailed to their home in the other state, where they are also registered. But that doesn't raise red flags with officials in either place. Efforts to prevent people from registering and voting in more than one state rely mostly on the honor system. New registrants are required to supply a prior address, which kicks in a notification process to election officials in the other jurisdiction. Officials also cross-check change-of-address records from the U.

Travis, you've won me over.

DWags wrote:

LooseGoose wrote:Knuckledraggers or purposefully registering in 2 locations for nefarious reasons?

Travis, you've won me over.

I take it that you feel the 68% majority of illegally registered voters is an innocent coincidence.

LooseGoose wrote:

DWags wrote:
Travis, you've won me over.  

I take it that you feel the 68% majority of illegally registered voters is an innocent coincidence.

Well since the article you quoted is from 2004 and is specifically talking about people from New York, a very blue state, that are also registered in Florida... kinda?

And he's an educated Trumpanzee. He spreads this shit to the knuckle staggers and they take it as gospel.

They can't do basic paperwork, but will certainly be able to root out voter fraud.

President Trump’s voter fraud commission may have violated the law by ignoring federal requirements governing requests for information from states, several experts on the regulatory process told The Hill.

Experts say the failure to submit the request to states through the Office of Management and Budget’s Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs (OIRA) violates a 1980 law known as the Paperwork Reduction Act (PRA). They also say the failure could be significant, since states could argue it means they are under no obligation to respond.

“If the commission gets heavy-handed with them, it seems to me that the states are within their right to say, 'No, we don’t have to respond because you didn’t go through [OIRA],'” said Susan Dudley, a former OIRA administrator who is now director of the GW Regulatory Studies Center at George Washington University.

http://thehill.com/regulation/other/340738-voter-fraud-commission-may-have-violated-law

25 clowns chasing a VW all trying to get in it. Now more of our personal info will be taken and we have pro life "conservatives" cheering them on.

Forty-one states just denied Trump's request for voter information
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The Trump administration ripped into what it called "fake news" reports Wednesday about states refusing to cooperate with its request for voter registration data.

The statement from election integrity commission vice chairman Kris Kobach, Kansas's secretary of state, comes as an increasing number of states refuse to provide all of the voter information requested by President Trump's panel.

Kobach announced Wednesday that 36 states have agreed to or are considering cooperating with the White House's request.

"While there are news reports that 44 states have 'refused to provide voter information to the Commission, those reports are patently false, more 'fake news,'" Kobach wrote.

http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/340740-kobach-rips-reports-about-voter-commission-problems-fake-news

It's ok, the Freep assures us that they will find fraud but it's all ok.

That's certainly a change in tune from the std "Vote fraud is a Republican fantasy"

Trump commission certain to find fraud, whether it exists or not

Lansing pollster Mark Grebner estimates that nationwide, the commission will find millions of improper registrations — none of which will mean voter fraud has occurred.

When it comes to actual, intentional voter fraud, Grebner guesses, “There would maybe be a hundred, all over the country, and there would be no pattern.”

Millions of improper registrations.....no problem folks.

Explain to me what you think an improper registration is goose. In your words.

Improper registration does not inherently mean fraud.

Turtleneck wrote:Improper registration does not inherently mean fraud.

Let the guy answer the fuckin question

In Thursday’s reply to questions by U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly, Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach (R), the vice chairman of the group and a leading conservative voice on concerns about voter fraud, listed six Republicans and four Democrats on the Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity.

Led by chairman Vice President Pence, the panel’s other members are Indiana Secretary of State Connie Lawson (R); New Hampshire Secretary of State Bill Gardner (D); Maine Secretary of State Matthew Dunlap (D); former Ohio secretary of state Ken Blackwell (R); Christy McCormick (R), commissioner with the U.S. Election Assistance Commission; former Arkansas state representative David Dunn (D); Mark Rhodes, clerk of Wood County, W.Va. (D); and Hans von Spakovsky, senior legal fellow of the Heritage Foundation (R).

Trump’s executive order designated that the General Services Administration would support and staff the commission. However in the court filing, Kobach said there are no plans at this time for the GSA to collect or store elections-related data.

Instead, he said, the White House is using a website for data transfers operated by the U.S. Army Aviation and Missile Research Development and Engineering Center. Once states upload data to that site, “commission staff will download … the files … onto White House computers. As this is a Presidential advisory commission, the White House is responsible for collecting and storing data for the Commission.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/trump-voter-commission-discloses-names-of-members-plan-to-store-data-at-white-house/2017/07/06/74e454ae-625d-11e7-84a1-a26b75ad39fe_story.html?tid=sm_tw&utm_term=.2cf5487dc22f

Turtleneck wrote:

Scary the amount of ignorance that abounds in our country in regards to this. Frightening. Even those who claim to be libertarian and conservative don't see this happening. Think about it, not concerned with Russia meddling but hyper concerned with 100 cases of voter fraud? If you don't think they're doing this for a specific reason, you deserve what's coming.

What States Can And Can't Do With Voter Data
http://www.npr.org/2017/07/09/536263092/what-states-can-and-cant-do-with-voter-data?utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=us