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WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:The hits keep coming.

http://www.vibe.com/2017/05/rich-homie-quan-possibly-prison-stint/

For possession....that's just silly. Why even arrest him?

LooseGoose wrote:

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:The hits keep coming.

http://www.vibe.com/2017/05/rich-homie-quan-possibly-prison-stint/

For possession....that's just silly. Why even arrest him?

I'm gonna guess color of skin and occupation.

LooseGoose wrote:

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:The hits keep coming.

http://www.vibe.com/2017/05/rich-homie-quan-possibly-prison-stint/

For possession....that's just silly. Why even arrest him?

Stolen gun, weed, ecstasy in the van. You don't think anyone should be arrested?

In today's episode of "Death Spiral", Kaleel Gaines will transfer to a JuCo. NFL Spartans Max Bullough (PED suspension) and Keith Mumphery (found 'guilty' of Title IX violations at his former University) have been cut from the Houston Texans.

You see what I am saying?!

Mumphrey needs to sue someone.  The judges that made that ESPN ruling to release names got the "preferential treatment" of athletes completely backwards.
How did the public's need to know that athletes weren't getting preferential treatment outweigh the damage to Mumphrey's reputation now that he lost his job the day after this was released?
And I hope Solari is real proud of himself.  You think Rexrodr or Couch would have done that?

Herbie Green wrote:You see what I am saying?!

Mumphrey needs to sue someone.  The judges that made that ESPN ruling to release names got the "preferential treatment" of athletes completely backwards.
How did the public's need to know that athletes weren't getting preferential treatment outweigh the damage to Mumphrey's reputation now that he lost his job the day after this was released?
And I hope Solari is real proud of himself.  You think Rexrodr or Couch would have done that?

Yeah, I would not feel great. KM is a borderline NFL player and his career could be over. I asked Solari why he named Mumphrey and he basically said it was because there was police action taken (a no trespass order) and because there was Title IX action taken (expulsion).

FWIW we don't know if it was Solari who requested the FOIA. And/or why he requested it. I will ask him and see if I can get a response.

Before that ESPN case MSU would have withheld the names.  Of course journalists could have been making those requests all the time and always been denied. 
 But now the law I think obligates MSU.   Yet at the same time MSU wouldnt comment directly on Title IX but MSU police will release reports

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:

Herbie Green wrote:You see what I am saying?!

Mumphrey needs to sue someone.  The judges that made that ESPN ruling to release names got the "preferential treatment" of athletes completely backwards.
How did the public's need to know that athletes weren't getting preferential treatment outweigh the damage to Mumphrey's reputation now that he lost his job the day after this was released?
And I hope Solari is real proud of himself.  You think Rexrodr or Couch would have done that?

Yeah, I would not feel great. KM is a borderline NFL player and his career could be over. I asked Solari why he named Mumphrey and he basically said it was because there was police action taken (a no trespass order) and because there was Title IX action taken (expulsion).

FWIW we don't know if it was Solari who requested the FOIA. And/or why he requested it. I will ask him and see if I can get a response.

Max was cut also.

Yes, Nigel. See post #570.

Herbie Green wrote:You see what I am saying?!

Mumphrey needs to sue someone.  The judges that made that ESPN ruling to release names got the "preferential treatment" of athletes completely backwards.
How did the public's need to know that athletes weren't getting preferential treatment outweigh the damage to Mumphrey's reputation now that he lost his job the day after this was released?
And I hope Solari is real proud of himself.  You think Rexrodr or Couch would have done that?

Solari did exactly what a journalist should do.

Jesus, I just went to the Freep and clicked on the article.

Won't link it here. They have video montage that's basically a slide show giving a time line of all the arrests, punishments, statements, players booted off the team and its over this soundtrack that sounds apocalyptic.

The freep is such a jerk wad paper.

steveschneider wrote:Jesus, I just went to the Freep and clicked on the article.

Won't link it here. They have video montage that's basically a slide show giving a time line of all the arrests, punishments, statements, players booted off the team and its over this soundtrack that sounds apocalyptic.

The freep is such a jerk wad paper.

Exactly what newspapers are supposed to do now, create clickbait

steveschneider wrote:Jesus, I just went to the Freep and clicked on the article.

Won't link it here. They have video montage that's basically a slide show giving a time line of all the arrests, punishments, statements, players booted off the team and its over this soundtrack that sounds apocalyptic.

The freep is such a jerk wad paper.

Yep...where is their video with sad music for all of the scUM arrests?

steveschneider wrote:

Herbie Green wrote:You see what I am saying?!

Mumphrey needs to sue someone.  The judges that made that ESPN ruling to release names got the "preferential treatment" of athletes completely backwards.
How did the public's need to know that athletes weren't getting preferential treatment outweigh the damage to Mumphrey's reputation now that he lost his job the day after this was released?
And I hope Solari is real proud of himself.  You think Rexrodr or Couch would have done that?

Solari did exactly what a journalist should do.

I'm not sure I can really agree with that unless he explored all angles of the situation and accusation. Was this really a story that was worthy of being reported on? For all we know Mumphery didn't fight the Title IX sanctions because he didn't give a shit or couldn't get out of training camp or something. Do we know what kind of evidence the Title IX investigation turned up that resulted in expulsion? Because the police reports outlined a pretty clear he-said she-said and KM's actions during the police investigation sure made it seem that he felt he was being falsely accused. The lack of charges would help make that case more compelling.

if anything, as mentioned before, this should show us how strict the Title IX standards are, and probably one can assume it's going to be really difficult if not impossible for any of the 3 players currently under investigation to resume their academic and football careers here, charges from the ICPO or no charges.

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:

steveschneider wrote:

Solari did exactly what a journalist should do.

I'm not sure I can really agree with that unless he explored all angles of the situation and accusation. Was this really a story that was worthy of being reported on? For all we know Mumphery didn't fight the Title IX sanctions because he didn't give a shit or couldn't get out of training camp or something. Do we know what kind of evidence the Title IX investigation turned up that resulted in expulsion? Because the police reports outlined a pretty clear he-said she-said and KM's actions during the police investigation sure made it seem that he felt he was being falsely accused. The lack of charges would help make that case more compelling.

if anything, as mentioned before, this should show us how strict the Title IX standards are, and probably one can assume it's going to be really difficult if not impossible for any of the 3 players currently under investigation to resume their academic and football careers here, charges from the ICPO or no charges.

Solari is just looking out for public safety and being a journalist

I wouldn't have a problem with the reporting if it came out shortly after the case was closed. But the timing reeks of being contrived and petty. He's bitter about Dantonio/MSU keeping things on lockdown -- even though it appears they have done everything correct/by the book (unlike Baylor, PSU and even UofM in the Gibbons case) in each of these (football related) cases.

Solari is flexing nuts to get back at Dantonio for locking him out. Unfortunately it had unintended consequences. Nice work Solari.

What I am guessing (and complete guessing) is that he/Freep happened upon this incident while submitting FOIAs in regards to current events. They probably submitted the FOIA for Title IX cases for the past 2 years or some shit like that and found this nugget. After examining the police report and the results, he decided it was newsworthy because of the expulsion and and the police action. (and perhaps a hint of truth to your assertion thrown in the mix)

Not really comfortable with this one. Like I said above, there could have been any number of reasons why KM didn't appeal, and the guy was on the NFL bubble.

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:

steveschneider wrote:

Solari did exactly what a journalist should do.

I'm not sure I can really agree with that unless he explored all angles of the situation and accusation. Was this really a story that was worthy of being reported on? For all we know Mumphery didn't fight the Title IX sanctions because he didn't give a shit or couldn't get out of training camp or something. Do we know what kind of evidence the Title IX investigation turned up that resulted in expulsion? Because the police reports outlined a pretty clear he-said she-said and KM's actions during the police investigation sure made it seem that he felt he was being falsely accused. The lack of charges would help make that case more compelling.

if anything, as mentioned before, this should show us how strict the Title IX standards are, and probably one can assume it's going to be really difficult if not impossible for any of the 3 players currently under investigation to resume their academic and football careers here, charges from the ICPO or no charges.

You make some great points about Title IX, but I don't fault Chris Solari reporting that Keith was expelled from MSU. That's what a reporter should do, is bring information to light.

If the freep goes to press about some third string DB under JLS getting busted for drugs the KM story was a must publish for them.

DWags wrote:If the freep goes to press about some third string DB under JLS getting busted for drugs the KM story was a must publish for them.

Very true.

Dave Harns tweeted earlier that Rexrode absolutely would have published the KM story. I assume he didn't just pull that out of thin air, he's a pretty responsible guy and he's been questioning Solari a fair amount on this.

I'm not necessarily on the Solari witch hunt. I just don't like how this played out.

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:

DWags wrote:If the freep goes to press about some third string DB under JLS getting busted for drugs the KM story was a must publish for them.

Very true.

Dave Harns tweeted earlier that Rexrode absolutely would have published the KM story. I assume he didn't just pull that out of thin air, he's a pretty responsible guy and he's been questioning Solari a fair amount on this.

I'm not necessarily on the Solari witch hunt. I just don't like how this played out.

I don't doubt any of your last two posts. But his response to your question was bullshit. Why not just say what you did in post #584? He sounded very defensive in his response. Pretty sure Rexrode would of handled the last few months with far less bitterness and with the same level (or better) reporting.

Saw a rexrode tweet that seemed like a vote of confidence for the KM story.

Also, Perry is back at UofM and here are the charges:

two misdemeanors for fourth-degree criminal sexual conduct for inappropriately touching a woman, a felony for resisting/avoiding arrest as an officer was injured as Perry evaded the arrest and a minor in possession of alcohol.


Michigan's leading receiver and Harbaugh is quoted as saying 'Grant Perry is an outstanding football player'.

"Harbaugh said Perry will be with the Wolverines in fall camp but said he didn't think Perry's case was resolved yet."

He doesn't know?  

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/wolverines/2017/06/03/michigan-wolverines-grant-perry-back/367678001/

How would there be a title 9 investigation considering the incident occurred off campus in EL?

I don't think that's right, unless you're just being a smart ass. Pretty sure Title IX only applies to incidents that take place on a college campus.

David Harns‏Verified account @isportsDave 38m38 minutes ago
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I'm curious how this is going to play out... pic.twitter.com/20lVmfW2Yv

LooseGoose wrote:David Harns‏Verified account @isportsDave  38m38 minutes ago
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I'm curious how this is going to play out... pic.twitter.com/20lVmfW2Yv

How the fuck did this creepy weirdo get a press credential?

Revoke his access. NOW.

duffy munn wrote:

LooseGoose wrote:David Harns‏Verified account @isportsDave  38m38 minutes ago
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I'm curious how this is going to play out... pic.twitter.com/20lVmfW2Yv

How the fuck did this creepy weirdo get a press credential?

Revoke his access. NOW.

It's been posted on tRCMB that Hondo inherited a bunch of money and has donates to the AD for his access.

Dantonio is going to be fired

Nordic wrote:Dantonio is going to be fired

So Saban back to MSU - for what $20 million/year
Paging pulling
Pulling to the white phone
update that flight tracker from Tuscaloosa

What's John L. Smith up to these days?

Josh McDaniels 3 million a year. Done and done.

Dantonio and Hollis are meeting with the Board.

Steve Mariucci

(did you know he's Izzo's friend)

NigelUno wrote:Dantonio and Hollis are meeting with the Board.

Looking forward to Hondo's hard hitting/poorly written/completely uninformed report on the meeting.