Hollis with the hand off then ducks out.

Looked like he didn't want to be there.

deManning excellent scars hollis

Blanch32 wrote:deManning excellent scars hollis

NigelUno wrote:He's probably a bit distracted these days.

I hope so. Writes a letter to female athletes on march 2?? Really.? I count six months between September and then.

Theory pm'ed me. Izzo steps in does both for two or three years picks his own replacement stays as AD for a decade.

Please speculate wildly. TIA.

DWags wrote:

NigelUno wrote:He's probably a bit distracted these days.

I hope so. Writes a letter to female athletes on march 2?? Really.? I count six months between September and then.

Theory pm'ed me. Izzo steps in does both for two or three years picks his own replacement stays as AD for a decade.

Please speculate wildly. TIA.

The last couple of coaches turned AD's didn't work out so well. Just sayin'.

NigelUno wrote:

DWags wrote:

I hope so. Writes a letter to female athletes on march 2?? Really.? I count six months between September and then.

Theory pm'ed me. Izzo steps in does both for two or three years picks his own replacement stays as AD for a decade.

Please speculate wildly. TIA.

I'd say no. Seeing all the crap that Hollis is going through now would most likely dissuade him from taking the job.

Izzo would have been on that stuff early.

I don't think Izzo would be a good AD. I'm not sure he'd want to be AD. Maybe I'm completely wrong. I think he'd want to be some sort of an ambassador but he might also realize that he'd be overshadowing his replacement.

DWags wrote:

NigelUno wrote:He's probably a bit distracted these days.

I hope so.  Writes a letter to female athletes on march 2?? Really.? I count six months between September and then.  

Theory pm'ed me.  Izzo steps in does both for two or three years picks his own replacement stays as AD for a decade.

Please speculate wildly. TIA.

Stupid proposal.

Here is what should really happen
Izzo steps down when he wants, and becomes an Ambassador for the University; and he defines that job in anyway that he pleases.

Wally Fairway wrote:

DWags wrote:

I hope so.  Writes a letter to female athletes on march 2?? Really.? I count six months between September and then.  

Theory pm'ed me.  Izzo steps in does both for two or three years picks his own replacement stays as AD for a decade.

Please speculate wildly. TIA.

Stupid proposal.

Here is what should really happen
Izzo steps down when he wants, and becomes an Ambassador for the University; and he defines that job in anyway that he pleases.

Just call it "The Iz"
I'm good with that.

Why is it "stupid"?

By the time the Nassar mess rolls through MSU Athletic Department is going to be in need of a trusted and beloved leader. That won't be Hollis.

GRR Spartan wrote:Why is it "stupid"?

By the time the Nassar mess rolls through MSU Athletic Department is going to be in need of a trusted and beloved leader. That won't be Hollis.

The Nassar mess may first take down Simon and the head of the medical college, Hollis is on the list but not at the top of changes that could be driven by that mess.
That is not {just} an athletic dept issue it is an MSU issue.

Wally Fairway wrote:

DWags wrote:

I hope so.  Writes a letter to female athletes on march 2?? Really.? I count six months between September and then.  

Theory pm'ed me.  Izzo steps in does both for two or three years picks his own replacement stays as AD for a decade.

Please speculate wildly. TIA.

Stupid proposal.

Here is what should really happen
Izzo steps down when he wants, and becomes an Ambassador for the University; and he defines that job in anyway that he pleases.

brilliant actually

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:

DWags wrote:

I hope so. Writes a letter to female athletes on march 2?? Really.? I count six months between September and then.

Theory pm'ed me. Izzo steps in does both for two or three years picks his own replacement stays as AD for a decade.

Please speculate wildly. TIA.

The last couple of coaches turned AD's didn't work out so well. Just sayin'.

Disagree mason was excellent. JLS didn't work out bbecause of JLS idiocy loyalty. really paid off for him now.....

GRR Spartan wrote:Why is it "stupid"?

By the time the Nassar mess rolls through MSU Athletic Department is going to be in need of a trusted and beloved leader. That won't be Hollis.

agr33d. trust is gone. The Dowager Lady Margret, Countess and Prefict of Northumbria knows what I am talking about

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:

DWags wrote:

I hope so. Writes a letter to female athletes on march 2?? Really.? I count six months between September and then.

Theory pm'ed me. Izzo steps in does both for two or three years picks his own replacement stays as AD for a decade.

Please speculate wildly. TIA.

The last couple of coaches turned AD's didn't work out so well. Just sayin'.

None of those were Izzo.

Watch over the next few months.
It's not so "stupid" it should be dismissed out of hand.

Izzo already has his former student manager then basketball video coordinator(4 years) then director of basketball operations (4 years) and current assistant athletic director Kevin Pauga in place who could do the day to day.

Nassar was a trainer for MSU athletics. Complaints from gymnatic team members and at least one softball player. Gymnastics coach leave in 2017 months after the Nassar story broke.

GRR Spartan wrote:Watch over the next few months.
It's not so "stupid" it should be dismissed out of hand.

Izzo already has his former student manager then basketball video coordinator(4 years) then director of basketball operations (4 years) and current assistant athletic director Kevin Pauga in place who could do the day to day.

Nassar was a trainer for MSU athletics. Complaints from gymnatic team members and at least one softball player. Gymnastics coach leave in 2017 months after the Nassar story broke.

And wasn't fires. msu let her retire. don't think the lawyers aren't going to let that difference slide

Izzo could be a good AD because he knows MSU and how to run a successful program.

OTOH, he has no experience as an administrator and seems to be loyal to coaches to a fault. Could he actually fire Dantonio if MSU football goes 4-8 for the next X seasons?

NigelUno wrote:

Herbie Green wrote:Izzo could be a good AD because he knows MSU and how to run a successful program.

OTOH,  he has no experience as an administrator and seems to be loyal to coaches to a fault.  Could he actually fire Dantonio if MSU football goes 4-8 for the next X seasons?

Such as?

Bobby Knight and Bruce Weber. He made a point of publicly defending them and criticizing their administators
I

Herbie Green wrote:

NigelUno wrote:



Such as?

Bobby Knight and Bruce Weber. He made a point of publicly defending them and criticizing their administators
I

Bobby knight he was pretty young and wanted to stay respectful I'm thinking. As a whole he was wrong. Webber he was dead balls right.

NigelUno wrote:Hey Herbie?

How has Illinois done since getting rid of Webber?

I'll wait for your keen and thoughtful insight.

Not the point

Herbie Green wrote:

NigelUno wrote:Hey Herbie?

How has Illinois done since getting rid of Webber?

I'll wait for your keen and thoughtful insight.

Not the point

You have a point?

You are reaching pretty hard here Herbie.

"Mr. Izzo, looks like stadium concessions made a mistake and ordered 5000 fewer programs than needed"

"Mr. Izzo, the contractors are coming in a little over budget on the new stadium renovations"

"Sorry Mr. Izzo, we're out of coffee"

Mr izzo Larry nassar is on the line....

duffy munn wrote:

Herbie Green wrote:

Not the point

You have a point?

You are reaching pretty hard here Herbie.

MSU just fired the hockey coach after many thought Hollis stood by his man too long.  The football program is currently at rock bottom and Izzo is very close friends with Dantonio and has the highest respect for him as a coach and a person.  Izzo has spent his entire adult life as a coach and appears very sympathetic to his coaching colleagues.  Is it really so far fetched to foresee a potential conflict there?  This is a hypothetical discussion of Izzo as AD to begin with so I don't understand your point about "reaching".  It is the first potential negative that pops into my head in this hypothetical and I am sure I am not alone.  
I suppose we could live in la la land rather than weighing pros and cons and then there is nothing to discuss.  And then the message board has no value as a place of discussion

Herbie Green wrote:

duffy munn wrote:

You have a point?

You are reaching pretty hard here Herbie.

MSU just fired the hockey coach after many thought Hollis stood by his man too long. The football program is currently at rock bottom and Izzo is very close friends with Dantonio and has the highest respect for him as a coach and a person. Izzo has spent his entire adult life as a coach and appears very sympathetic to his coaching colleagues. Is it really so far fetched to foresee a potential conflict there? This is a hypothetical discussion of Izzo as AD to begin with so I don't understand your point about "reaching". It is the first potential negative that pops into my head in this hypothetical and I am sure I am not alone.
I suppose we could live in la la land rather than weighing pros and cons and then there is nothing to discuss. And thrn the message board has no value.

If Izzo wanted to be AD I'm sure he would do a fine job. Preemptively worrying about whether he could fire Mark Dantonio is dumb.

You are reaching.

This said, I highly doubt Izzo wants to be AD. Working for 1/3 the pay with 100x the headaches does now sound attractive.

duffy munn wrote:

Herbie Green wrote:

MSU just fired the hockey coach after many thought Hollis stood by his man too long. The football program is currently at rock bottom and Izzo is very close friends with Dantonio and has the highest respect for him as a coach and a person. Izzo has spent his entire adult life as a coach and appears very sympathetic to his coaching colleagues. Is it really so far fetched to foresee a potential conflict there? This is a hypothetical discussion of Izzo as AD to begin with so I don't understand your point about "reaching". It is the first potential negative that pops into my head in this hypothetical and I am sure I am not alone.
I suppose we could live in la la land rather than weighing pros and cons and then there is nothing to discuss. And thrn the message board has no value.

If Izzo wanted to be AD I'm sure he would do a fine job. Preemptively worrying about whether he could fire Mark Dantonio is dumb.

You are reaching.

This said, I highly doubt Izzo wants to be AD. Working for 1/3 the pay with 100x the headaches does now sound attractive.

This. Izzo only runs off players, never coaches. like hollis, he hasn't fired anyone

NigelUno wrote:

Herbie Green wrote:

Not the point

You said he seems to be loyal to a fault, and brought up coaches at other schools, not coaches under him at MSU. So whatever your point was in doing that, it was idiotic. And what was the "fault" in being "loyal" to Weber? You used that as an example. Explain it.

Bruce Weber really doesn't have a lot to do with the larger point I have gone into further depth on. Sorry but I am going to have to move on.

Why isn't Herbie picking stocks for a living.
He seems to be an expert on the future,

duffy munn wrote:

Herbie Green wrote:

MSU just fired the hockey coach after many thought Hollis stood by his man too long. The football program is currently at rock bottom and Izzo is very close friends with Dantonio and has the highest respect for him as a coach and a person. Izzo has spent his entire adult life as a coach and appears very sympathetic to his coaching colleagues. Is it really so far fetched to foresee a potential conflict there? This is a hypothetical discussion of Izzo as AD to begin with so I don't understand your point about "reaching". It is the first potential negative that pops into my head in this hypothetical and I am sure I am not alone.
I suppose we could live in la la land rather than weighing pros and cons and then there is nothing to discuss. And thrn the message board has no value.

If Izzo wanted to be AD I'm sure he would do a fine job. Preemptively worrying about whether he could fire Mark Dantonio is dumb.

You are reaching.

This said, I highly doubt Izzo wants to be AD. Working for 1/3 the pay with 100x the headaches does now sound attractive.

Wake up and smell the coffee. We are talking about replacing an AD (who also happens to be one of Izzo's best friends) for enabling a serial child molestor in one of the worst cases in history. The football team just went 4-8 and has a giant cloud hanging over it because of some rape investigation. They just had a spring game in which 10+ more players were suspended.
Sometimes you can be too close to a situation and that is why you hire from outside.