How can anyone pretend this is normal?

NigelUno wrote:

LooseGoose wrote:

I realize that Trump is a buffoon.   But for any honest person to say the Dem reaction to his election is abnormal tells me they're uninformed or kidding themselves.   Think I'm full of shit?  OK, I'll provide you with some history - if you dispute it, look it up.   If you want to call me a liar then I'll provide you a link and wait for an apology.

The Democrat playbook has been to delegitimize the election of any R President.   Think back to 2000.   Gore was so much smarter than Bush, so much more qualified than Bush.   The media convinced many of that including most if not all of you and you still believe it today.  

Strangely the educational facts tell a different story - it'll be interesting to see degreed people here argue that all that means nothing.   But the facts are that George W. Bush had a higher undergraduate GPA than Gore.   Bush also earned an MBA from Harvard.   Gore dropped out of 2 different post graduate programs and never obtained an advanced degree.

And never forget that Gore invented the internet.....ooops...well that sounds like something Trump would say.

But carrying on from the the media did all they could to help Gore over the finish line.   They dumped an old DUI of Bush's on the weekend before the election.   They called Florida before the polls were closed in the panhandle thus suppressing the GOP vote there.

After the election and in the 16 years since the Dems have done everything they can to plant doubt over who won the election.  This in spite of EVERY count and recount done by ANY organization has ALWAYS shown bush to have won Florida.  Yet we still hear how the Supreme Court "gave" Bush the election.  It's bullshit and they know it.

And now?  With Trump?   Again, I realize that Trump is a buffoon.  I've said here many times.   I've hoped his advisers would steer him along and he'd do OK.   So far he's not made any hugely wrong decisions that affect the country.  Maybe that will remain the case, maybe it won't.   I don't know.   But I seethe with anger every time I hear this "Russian" shit because I know it's a fucking replay of Florida.   It's spoiled little brat Dems not being able to admit they lost.  Because of that that're willing to sow every seed of discord they can.  They're willing to tear this country apart so they can somehow score a "win".

And all of you go along and support them in that.   Fine.   Just remember the old saw about reaping the whirlwind.   Trump's election was a peaceable whirlwind, I hope it's the only one.

Tell me how this would have been played if the parties were reversed????
Police: Woman followed then threatened Congressman David Kustoff

What does any of that have to do with Trump being a con man, or an "asshole"?

GRR Spartan wrote:That's a walk down memory lane avoiding the subject at hand. Something Derek Jeter or Ivanka Trump might say or specifically not say.

None of the "conservatives" want to address the fact once Comey asked for additional funding to investigate Russian involvement in the 2016 election he was dead man walking. Nor do they want to discuss the blatant conflicts of interest that seem to be a weekly event by the families Trump and Kushner.

Now Trump is threatening to cut off press access while giving White House access to the Russian photographer from Tass, contradicted himself on Comey and is hinting releasing audio of his meeting with Comey.

We know Bush2 was declared the winner by the SCOTUS because of the Florida ballot mess. Gore lost and has left running for political office to others. We know Hillary Clinton lost in the only vote that counts, The Electoral College.

This issue at hand is if the GOP is going to assist Trump in head long charge to take away the independence of the FBI. We've already seen McConnell and the GOP refused to move on filling Scalia's former seat until a Republican was in ThevWhite House.

The cry of fiscal concern for the investigation is laughable considering the Secret Service had to ask for additional funding for Trump's trips to Florida, keeping his NYC home and accompanying Trumps son's while the do business overseas.

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:

Rocinante wrote:I just posted it in the Comey thread but if you get a chance read this Washington Post article with survey data. As long as the base is so wildly approving of the president, republicans won't do anything substantive. And they approve of him because they get their information from the propaganda arm of the white house.

wapo link

So basically this country is doomed into a partisanship war for, well, forever.

Republicans refusal to acknowledge this guy's hare-brained behavior and the dangers of it (in large part, I assume, due to their contempt for the other party), will continue to fuel contempt from the left. And because he is likely to continue turning off independants, the worm will turn in the next election and we'll be looking at a liberal President, or maybe House/Congress (I have no idea how possible/impossible the latter is given current seats and whatnot). Which, in turn, will lead to more contempt and vitriol from the right, and more alt right shit, eventually culminating in a Hitler or Communism or a civil war. Or some shit like that.

The only hope is that Trump fucks up badly enough on something that even the diehard righties can't defend him, and we get a more reasonable Republican in the oval office who doesn't embarrass himself in the press, diplomatic discussions and on twitter every 15 minutes. So you're saying there's a chance....

I kind of hate this country. I probably would move if it were even slightly realistic. So sick of all of the partisan bullshit and that wedge isn't going away.