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Post by Turtleneck Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:11 pm

Was that supposed to be ripped up on day number one? Or was that a 90 day guarantee?

Today, the Iran nuclear deal turns two years old. In its critics’ eyes, it has already failed. President Donald Trump and many of his supporters complain that it has not changed Iran’s regional behavior, pointing to Tehran’s continued support for regional proxies and ongoing ballistic missile tests as proof. Other critics, including Senators Tom Cotton, Ted Cruz, David Perdue, and Marco Rubio, who wrote a letter to the administration denouncing the deal just this week, suggest that Iran may actually be violating it. They allege a range of technical violations, even though the International Atomic Energy Agency—and Trump’s State Department, for that matter—have confirmed Iran’s compliance.

In fact, the deal is doing exactly what is was supposed to do: prevent Iran from acquiring enough fissile material for a nuclear weapon, demonstrate to the Iranian public the benefits of cooperation with the international community, and buy time for potential changes in Iranian politics and foreign policy.

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/07/iran-nuclear-deal-two-years/533556/?utm_source=feed

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Post by Turtleneck Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:52 am

As of now, the deal stays in place. It is not getting ripped up, and was recertified for the second time by the Trump administration yesterday.

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Trump administration told Congress for a second time Monday that Iran is complying with the nuclear deal and can keep enjoying sanctions relief, even as it insisted Tehran would face consequences for breaching “the spirit” of the deal.

President Donald Trump, who lambasted the 2015 pact as a candidate, gave himself more time to decide whether to scuttle it or let it stand. Instead, senior Trump administration officials sought to emphasize their deep concerns about Iran’s non-nuclear behavior and vowed that those transgressions won’t go unpunished.

In a shift from Trump’s previous threat to “rip up” the deal, officials said the administration was working with U.S. allies to try to fix the deal’s flaws, including the expiration of some nuclear restrictions after a decade or more. The officials also said the U.S. would slap Tehran with new sanctions penalizing it for developing ballistic missiles and other activity.

https://apnews.com/25848b2ebeb94134a2dc3fe52ded11e6/US:-Iran-complying-with-nuclear-deal-but-defying-its-spirit?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=New%20Campaign&utm_term=%2AMorning%20Brief

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Donald Trump's administration on Monday declared that Iran was complying with its nuclear agreement with world powers, but warned that Tehran was in default of the spirit of the accord and that Washington would look for ways to strengthen it.

It was the second time Trump certified Iranian compliance with the agreement since he took office in January, despite criticizing it during the 2016 campaign as "the worst deal ever."

Trump administration officials, briefing reporters on Monday on the decision, said new economic sanctions against Iran were being prepared over its ballistic missile program and for contributing to regional tensions.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-iran-nuclear-usa-idUSKBN1A306P?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=New%20Campaign&utm_term=%2AMorning%20Brief
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Post by DWags Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:56 am

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Post by Turtleneck Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:06 am

From what I have read, Trump did not want to recertify but his military advisors suggested it was the best course of action.
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Post by DWags Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:19 am

Turtleneck wrote:From what I have read, Trump did not want to recertify but his military advisors suggested it was the best course of action.


Did the American people elect trump or his military advisors who have expertise in this?

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Post by Robert J Sakimano Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:22 am

DWags wrote:
no offense to the sexual predator, but the entire world is laughing at us and him.. it's not exclusive to Iran.
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Post by steveschneider Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:31 am

Turtleneck wrote:From what I have read, Trump did not want to recertify but his military advisors suggested it was the best course of action.

From what I've read we should be grateful Mattis and McMaster are in charge. We'd probably be in our bomb shelters right now while WWIII was going on.
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Post by GRR Spartan Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:20 am

So we have a President who doesn't understand Pacific trade, doesn't understand or ignores climate change. Doesn't understand nuclear non proliferatin treaties and was suprised how complicated healthcare legislation can be.

But he's going to get Roe v Wade overturned so its all good.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:21 am

GRR Spartan wrote:So we have a President who doesn't understand Pacific trade, doesn't understand or ignores climate change. Doesn't understand nuclear non proliferatin treaties and was suprised how complicated healthcare legislation can be.

But he's going to get Roe v Wade overturned so its all good.
you conveniently forget that he's a "christian".
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Post by Turtleneck Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:11 am

Odd statement here:

On Iran, Mr. Trump said the administration had given Iran “the benefit of every doubt” about their compliance with the 2015 multinational nuclear deal. The president must certify to Congress every 90 days that Iran is in compliance with its obligations. The president made such a certification earlier this month.

But when certification comes up again, Mr. Trump said he believes Iran will be judged not compliant with the agreement. He said he would be prepared to overrule his own advisers in proclaiming that Iran hasn’t met the terms of the agreement.

“We’ve been extremely nice to them in saying they were compliant,” Mr. Trump said. “Personally, I have great respect for my people, but if it was up to me, I would have had them noncompliant 180 days ago.”

He added: “We’ll talk about the subject in 90 days but I would be surprised if they were in compliance.”

Iran has previously been found to be compliant, but will suddenly be non-compliant? What is this prediction based on, and raise your hand if you're comfortable with Trump disregarding and "overruling his advisors" on this issue?

https://www.wsj.com/article_email/trump-eyes-tax-code-overhaul-with-emphasis-on-middle-class-break-1501027057-lMyQjAxMTA3NTIwNjYyMjY4Wj/
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Post by Turtleneck Mon Aug 07, 2017 10:22 am

But Trump then immediately commissioned a group of White House aides to generate a rationale for declaring Iran to be in violation of the agreement. According to a report in Foreign Policy, this group includes Stephen K. Bannon, the president’s chief strategist, who has no intelligence background. The president reportedly told them “that he wants to be in a place to decertify 90 days from now and it’s their job to put him there,” according to the magazine’s source.

This is not how the intelligence process is supposed to work. Certainly, policymakers should ask the intelligence community probing questions and challenge the community’s judgments. That not only is policymakers’ prerogative, but also it is the right thing to do, and the tougher and more topical the questions, the better.

But there is a big difference between asking a pointed question and demanding a particular answer. When a president directs his staff to generate intelligence to support a preferred policy outcome, overriding the dispassionate analytic judgments of intelligence professionals, that is the very definition of the politicization of intelligence.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trump-is-trying-to-politicize-intelligence-to-support-his-iran-policy-thats-dangerous/2017/08/04/ffb192e0-77b6-11e7-8f39-eeb7d3a2d304_story.html?utm_term=.a09f76addf0d
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