Harvey

NigelUno wrote:Gas prices will go up.

DWags wrote:The hurricane winds will dissipate eventually. God willing nobody loses their life if they stay. But those folks might get 22 inches of rain this week. That's gonna be a tragedy.

DWags wrote:

InTenSity wrote:
It could be 24 hours of Hurricane force winds. That is 75 or 80mph minimum for 24 straight hours. Gusts will be higher. And there is rain.

Jesus. I can't believe anyone is dumb enough to ride that out.

GRR Spartan wrote:Of course they want Federal aid because its their state.

Price of gas, jet fuel and diesel will all go up.  

if you are thinking of buying a new or newer used car over the next 6 months do it in the next 10 -14 days before the 1000's of insurance claim vehicles start getting dried and shipped out.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

GRR Spartan wrote:Of course they want Federal aid because its their state.

Price of gas, jet fuel and diesel will all go up.  

if you are thinking of buying a new or newer used car over the next 6 months do it in the next 10 -14 days before the 1000's of insurance claim vehicles start getting dried and shipped out.

I just find it really shocking that republicans are asking for government assistance/handouts.

 

InTenSity wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
I just find it really shocking that republicans are asking for government assistance/handouts.

 

Especially after all the Texas guys voted no for Sandy. Grr posted about that somewhere, maybe even earlier in this thread.

During a press conference two weeks ago, President Donald Trump largely skipped over an executive order on infrastructure to focus instead on the fatal white nationalist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia. Trump blamed “both sides” for the violence. The media followed his lead, focusing on his incendiary comments instead of the order at hand.

Little noticed at the time was an item that now belongs at the forefront. On August 15, Trump signed an executive order rolling back various environmental rules in order to streamline approvals for infrastructure projects. One of them was an Obama-era order that established a federal infrastructure standard to reduce the risk of flooding damage.

The Federal Flood Risk Management Standard—which President Barack Obama signed into effect in January 2015—set new goals for defining flood plains and mitigating the risk of construction over them. The standard was coordinated by the National Security Council and involved the input of governors, mayors, and other stakeholders. The Obama-era rule amended a 1977 executive order on floodplain management by asking agencies to seek a “practicable alternative” to any projects on floodplains that would have either short-term or long-term adverse effects.

Floyd Robertson wrote:

Turtleneck wrote:

Obviously, no structure with that amount of floodwater inside could possibly take in and provide shelter for thousands of victims, but there is even more to the story: Lakewood was never even asked to host flood victims.

The City of Houston and Harris County Emergency Management have instead been instructing those in need of a place to stay to head to any number of designated shelters. Likely wary of the violence, rape, and other issues at the Superdome during Hurricane Katrina, Houston officials have avoided using massive complexes like Lakewood to house victims. Simply put, as the Superdome demonstrated, it is simply too difficult to manage that many people in one place.

Instead, emergency workers have been pooling supplies at the designated relief areas, which are smaller and easier to manage. Moreover, having multiple relief areas spread around the city makes far more logistical sense than one or two massive sites like a megachurch (which used to be a basketball arena) or a football stadium.

"We were on the phone with the city … they said the shelters are fine at the moment," Lakewood spokesman Don Iloff told FaithWire.com. "We basically said we can put [a few hundred] people on the second level [and the] city said, 'We'll get back with you.' We are prepared to house those people."

In addition, Osteen issued a statement indicating that Lakewood has not turned a single person away who came to the church seeking shelter. However, instead of housing them in the church--which the City of Houston did not request and presumably did not want since Lakewood did not have adequate supplies--church staffers and/or volunteers transported the victims to one of the designated shelters; including one just a few miles away.

"We have never closed our doors," Osteen said. "We will continue to be a distribution center to those in need. We are prepared to house people once shelters reach capacity. Lakewood will be a value to the community in the aftermath of this storm.

LooseGoose wrote:More bullshit fake news with the usual jaws in here flapping nonsense.....

Dan McLaughlin‏Verified account @baseballcrank 5m5 minutes ago
OK, after seeing the condition of Joel Osteen's church, I'm convinced I & others were unfair to him

The Truth About Joel Osteen's Church

Obviously, no structure with that amount of floodwater inside could possibly take in and provide shelter for thousands of victims, but there is even more to the story: Lakewood was never even asked to host flood victims.

The City of Houston and Harris County Emergency Management have instead been instructing those in need of a place to stay to head to any number of designated shelters. Likely wary of the violence, rape, and other issues at the Superdome during Hurricane Katrina, Houston officials have avoided using massive complexes like Lakewood to house victims. Simply put, as the Superdome demonstrated, it is simply too difficult to manage that many people in one place.

Instead, emergency workers have been pooling supplies at the designated relief areas, which are smaller and easier to manage. Moreover, having multiple relief areas spread around the city makes far more logistical sense than one or two massive sites like a megachurch (which used to be a basketball arena) or a football stadium.

"We were on the phone with the city … they said the shelters are fine at the moment," Lakewood spokesman Don Iloff told FaithWire.com. "We basically said we can put [a few hundred] people on the second level [and the] city said, 'We'll get back with you.' We are prepared to house those people."

In addition, Osteen issued a statement indicating that Lakewood has not turned a single person away who came to the church seeking shelter. However, instead of housing them in the church--which the City of Houston did not request and presumably did not want since Lakewood did not have adequate supplies--church staffers and/or volunteers transported the victims to one of the designated shelters; including one just a few miles away.

"We have never closed our doors," Osteen said. "We will continue to be a distribution center to those in need. We are prepared to house people once shelters reach capacity. Lakewood will be a value to the community in the aftermath of this storm.

But as usual in this cesspit the simple fact of disliking him will justify lying.

LooseGoose wrote:More bullshit fake news with the usual jaws in here flapping nonsense.....

Dan McLaughlin‏Verified account @baseballcrank  5m5 minutes ago
OK, after seeing the condition of Joel Osteen's church, I'm convinced I & others were unfair to him

The Truth About Joel Osteen's Church

Obviously, no structure with that amount of floodwater inside could possibly take in and provide shelter for thousands of victims, but there is even more to the story: Lakewood was never even asked to host flood victims.

The City of Houston and Harris County Emergency Management have instead been instructing those in need of a place to stay to head to any number of designated shelters.  Likely wary of the violence, rape, and other issues at the Superdome during Hurricane Katrina, Houston officials have avoided using massive complexes like Lakewood to house victims. Simply put, as the Superdome demonstrated, it is simply too difficult to manage that many people in one place.

Instead, emergency workers have been pooling supplies at the designated relief areas, which are smaller and easier to manage.  Moreover, having multiple relief areas spread around the city makes far more logistical sense than one or two massive sites like a megachurch (which used to be a basketball arena) or a football stadium.

"We were on the phone with the city … they said the shelters are fine at the moment," Lakewood spokesman Don Iloff told FaithWire.com. "We basically said we can put [a few hundred] people on the second level [and the] city said, 'We'll get back with you.' We are prepared to house those people."

In addition, Osteen issued a statement indicating that Lakewood has not turned a single person away who came to the church seeking shelter.  However, instead of housing them in the church--which the City of Houston did not request and presumably did not want since Lakewood did not have adequate supplies--church staffers and/or volunteers transported the victims to one of the designated shelters; including one just a few miles away.

"We have never closed our doors," Osteen said. "We will continue to be a distribution center to those in need. We are prepared to house people once shelters reach capacity. Lakewood will be a value to the community in the aftermath of this storm.

But as usual in this cesspit the simple fact of disliking him will justify lying.