In a Shock to Nobody, Betsy DeVos Is About to Stick it to Victims of Sexual Assault..
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In a Shock to Nobody, Betsy DeVos Is About to Stick it to Victims of Sexual Assault..
I suppose when your boss is an admitted sexual predator and you're beholden to those sorts of vile christian men your entire life, this is what you become..
Caution: Mainstream Media Link Below:
Reviewing Obama-Era Guidelines on Sexual Assault
Caution: Mainstream Media Link Below:
Reviewing Obama-Era Guidelines on Sexual Assault
Robert J Sakimano- Geronte
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Re: In a Shock to Nobody, Betsy DeVos Is About to Stick it to Victims of Sexual Assault..
It's funny. A woman who isn't qualified to run the department of education says educators aren't qualified to determine if a schools sexual assault guidelines have been broken.
Not if only she had an email account we can really vilify her......... God let there be an email account
Not if only she had an email account we can really vilify her......... God let there be an email account
kingstonlake- Geronte
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Re: In a Shock to Nobody, Betsy DeVos Is About to Stick it to Victims of Sexual Assault..
you're a great American..kingstonlake wrote:It's funny. A woman who isn't qualified to run the department of education says educators aren't qualified to determine if a schools sexual assault guidelines have been broken.
Not if only she had an email account we can really vilify her......... God let there be an email account
Robert J Sakimano- Geronte
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Re: In a Shock to Nobody, Betsy DeVos Is About to Stick it to Victims of Sexual Assault..
I had missed this story. I was surprised it didn't get any action here but perhaps the silence speaks volumes.
I am willing to admit it - Goose was completely right about this. This Obama policy has been a complete disaster. Regardless of what I otherwise think of Trump and Devos, the denial of due process is not a cause I am going to cheer on my political team to embrace.
It is telling that freedom of speech advocacy group Foundation for Individual Rights in Education, or FIRE, applauded the move and said that DeVos' announcement "acknowledged that the department's approach to enforcing Title IX, the law against sex discrimination in federally funded education programs, is fundamentally broken."
"Addressing widespread concerns about the fairness of current college sexual misconduct codes, the secretary noted that respect for due process is 'the foundation of any system of justice that seeks a fair outcome,' and that codes must ensure 'fair procedures that inspire trust and confidence,'" the group said in a statement. "With regard to the unilateral and opaque way that current federal mandates in this area were imposed, she further assured listeners that 'the era of "rule by letter" is over.'"
I am willing to admit it - Goose was completely right about this. This Obama policy has been a complete disaster. Regardless of what I otherwise think of Trump and Devos, the denial of due process is not a cause I am going to cheer on my political team to embrace.
It is telling that freedom of speech advocacy group Foundation for Individual Rights in Education, or FIRE, applauded the move and said that DeVos' announcement "acknowledged that the department's approach to enforcing Title IX, the law against sex discrimination in federally funded education programs, is fundamentally broken."
"Addressing widespread concerns about the fairness of current college sexual misconduct codes, the secretary noted that respect for due process is 'the foundation of any system of justice that seeks a fair outcome,' and that codes must ensure 'fair procedures that inspire trust and confidence,'" the group said in a statement. "With regard to the unilateral and opaque way that current federal mandates in this area were imposed, she further assured listeners that 'the era of "rule by letter" is over.'"
Herbie Green- Spartiate
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The Obama policy was a disaster unless you were a victim and your attacker got to go one like nothing happened.
Betsy hired private security to look after her daughters in college.
Betsy hired private security to look after her daughters in college.
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Re: In a Shock to Nobody, Betsy DeVos Is About to Stick it to Victims of Sexual Assault..
yeah - so someone who works for a sexual predator has no problem with sexual assault as long as she/he can live in gated community and insulate themselves from the world.
yawn.
yawn.
Robert J Sakimano- Geronte
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Re: In a Shock to Nobody, Betsy DeVos Is About to Stick it to Victims of Sexual Assault..
GRR Spartan wrote:The Obama policy was a disaster unless you were a victim and your attacker got to go one like nothing happened.
Betsy hired private security to look after her daughters in college.
Do you think the standard of proof and rights of the accused should be lowered even more?
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.Robert J Sakimano wrote:yeah - so someone who works for a sexual predator has no problem with sexual assault as long as she/he can live in gated community and insulate themselves from the world.
yawn.
Yawn, predictable uninformed response. Her speech was very far from saying "she has no problem with sexual assault".
Herbie Green- Spartiate
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There are articles all over the Internet if you want to actually educate yourself on the topic. I had read this long 3 part series in The Atlantic which stoked my interest.
WARNING - link to non-extreme political fan boy media source. Independent thought might be required.
https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2017/09/the-uncomfortable-truth-about-campus-rape-policy/538974/
WARNING - link to non-extreme political fan boy media source. Independent thought might be required.
https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2017/09/the-uncomfortable-truth-about-campus-rape-policy/538974/
Herbie Green- Spartiate
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Re: In a Shock to Nobody, Betsy DeVos Is About to Stick it to Victims of Sexual Assault..
Take too many asshole pills today Herbie?
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Re: In a Shock to Nobody, Betsy DeVos Is About to Stick it to Victims of Sexual Assault..
Roc what is your point?
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Herbie's not wrong, the current processes for managing sexual assault allegations in education are kinda fucked. Pretty sure we can find a middle ground between ignoring allegations and ignoring due process.
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Re: In a Shock to Nobody, Betsy DeVos Is About to Stick it to Victims of Sexual Assault..
Roc, I think I finally figured out the reason you have a bug up your ass is because you don't understand how quotation marks work unless it appears in one of those boxes?
I admit I am not the most technically proficient poster and it doesn't help that I am usually on my phone and not posting on my company's computer. But personally I find multi-quote posts to be so annoying that I don't read them so don't expect me to start making them.
When you read my posts you can expect to read genuine thoughts and value added content.
I admit I am not the most technically proficient poster and it doesn't help that I am usually on my phone and not posting on my company's computer. But personally I find multi-quote posts to be so annoying that I don't read them so don't expect me to start making them.
When you read my posts you can expect to read genuine thoughts and value added content.
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