Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

Rocinante wrote:
He’s using the trump playbook that worked. Never admit anything, always fight back.

And it’s Alabama.

steveschneider wrote:

Rocinante wrote:
He’s using the trump playbook that worked. Never admit anything, always fight back.

And it’s Alabama.

Yep, sad but true. I’m more upset at the general public that will vote for this pedophile.

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:- its only been one day, prolly too early for ideal polling that fully accounts for this story. I’ll update mid next week and see where we’re at.
- this link has the race as tied though.
- I hope the Democratic Party isn’t as stupid as all the idiots writing it off as “it’s alabama it doesn’t matter.” It is not impossible.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/henrygomez/poll-shows-alabama-race-tied-after-allegations-against-roy

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:- its only been one day, prolly too early for ideal polling that fully accounts for this story. I’ll update mid next week and see where we’re at.
- this link has the race as tied though.
- I hope the Democratic Party isn’t as stupid as all the idiots writing it off as “it’s alabama it doesn’t matter.” It is not impossible.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/henrygomez/poll-shows-alabama-race-tied-after-allegations-against-roy

here's why I don't trust the polling in this race or most any other race that involves such an immoral, filthy candidate.

how many people, when asked - even an automated landline telephone poll - are going to admit to supporting someone as disgusting as Moore? I think we really need to look no further than the polling leading up to the presidential election last year.

nobody in their right mind would admit - out loud - to voting for a racist, bigoted sexual predator. But they did.. in the privacy of their voting booth when nobody was watching.. after having told pollsters the exact opposite.

I hope I'm wrong.. but I doubt it.

Turtleneck wrote:

Turtleneck wrote:

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
here's why I don't trust the polling in this race or most any other race that involves such an immoral, filthy candidate.

how many people, when asked - even an automated landline telephone poll - are going to admit to supporting someone as disgusting as Moore? I think we really need to look no further than the polling leading up to the presidential election last year.

nobody in their right mind would admit - out loud - to voting for a racist, bigoted sexual predator. But they did.. in the privacy of their voting booth when nobody was watching.. after having told pollsters the exact opposite.

I hope I'm wrong.. but I doubt it.

That’s the thing bob, it wasn’t exactly a blowout two days ago. It was between 6-10 points for Moore. This story isn’t going to help him, the question is if it hurts or not. 6-10 points in a state race means that it wouldn’t take that many people either switching their vote or just not voting because they don’t want Moore or a democrat.

GRR Spartan wrote:Over a third of polled Alabama voters who indentify as evangelicals say they are more likely to vote for Moore because of the charges.

Same poll reported a ltlle less than 25% would not vote for him.

Reading this crap reinforces why I would never live in that state and why Alabama natives I know have zero interest in moving back.

http://www.newsweek.com/roy-more-sexual-assault-alabama-evangelicals-709015

@thejimjams

Purportedly Moore’s main accuser Leigh Corfman has had three divorces, filed for bankruptcy three times, and has been charged with multiple misdemeanors.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:uh oh.. the 'christian' republican smear machine is now attacking one of the accusers..

@thejimjams

Purportedly Moore’s main accuser Leigh Corfman has had three divorces, filed for bankruptcy three times, and has been charged with multiple misdemeanors.

my thoughts and prayers are with Roy Moore during this difficult time.

msugolfguy wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:uh oh.. the 'christian' republican smear machine is now attacking one of the accusers..



my thoughts and prayers are with Roy Moore during this difficult time.

Irony isn't a strong suit with some people.

Franklin Graham‏Verified account @Franklin_Graham
Nov 11

Franklin Graham Retweeted CNN

I’m praying for Roy Moore and his family.

(CNN)Alabama Republican Senate candidate Roy Moore says he will sue the Washington Post over its report alleging he pursued sexual relationships with teenagers -- including a 14-year-old -- when he was in his 30s.

"The Washington Post published another attack on my character and reputation because they are desperate to stop my political campaign. These attacks said I was with a minor child and are false and untrue -- and for which they will be sued," Moore said Sunday night during a campaign speech in Huntsville, Alabama.

GRR Spartan wrote:Mitch McConnell just withdrew his support. "I believe the women"

The GOP leadership may have done their own digging and what they found was significant enough to walk away.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/13/politics/mitch-mcconnell-roy-moore/index.html

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

GRR Spartan wrote:Mitch McConnell just withdrew his support. "I believe the women"

The GOP leadership may have done their own digging and what they found was significant enough to walk away.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/13/politics/mitch-mcconnell-roy-moore/index.html

again, check back with me after the election.

I think the pedophilia charges only enhance his elect-ability with the fine Alabama 'christians'.

plus, remember who he is running against - someone who jailed members of the KKK for their role in killing 4 young black girls in the 60's.. that's a liability with the deplorables.

msugolfguy wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:again, check back with me after the election.

I think the pedophilia charges only enhance his elect-ability with the fine Alabama 'christians'.

plus, remember who he is running against - someone who jailed members of the KKK for their role in killing 4 young black girls in the 60's.. that's a liability with the deplorables.

Think of how bad that is for Democrats though. They'd take Moore over the other dude. I question where the message goes wrong.

msugolfguy wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:again, check back with me after the election.

I think the pedophilia charges only enhance his elect-ability with the fine Alabama 'christians'.

plus, remember who he is running against - someone who jailed members of the KKK for their role in killing 4 young black girls in the 60's.. that's a liability with the deplorables.

Think of how bad that is for Democrats though. They'd take Moore over the other dude. I question where the message goes wrong.

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

msugolfguy wrote:

Think of how bad that is for Democrats though. They'd take Moore over the other dude. I question where the message goes wrong.

It’s alabama dude.

Just kidding the thing is bob is wrong, Jones is leading in polls right now. Like I said earlier, I’m not saying he’s going to win but bobs attitude about it is foolish.

DWags wrote:

msugolfguy wrote:

Think of how bad that is for Democrats though. They'd take Moore over the other dude. I question where the message goes wrong.

Lets break down the "They" you are talking about here.   "They" are so tribal that they will vote for a pedophile.   They won't stay home and not vote, they won't switch their vote, they will vote for a pedophile because there is an R by his name.  

Merica.

DWags wrote:

msugolfguy wrote:

Think of how bad that is for Democrats though. They'd take Moore over the other dude. I question where the message goes wrong.

Lets break down the "They" you are talking about here.   "They" are so tribal that they will vote for a pedophile.   They won't stay home and not vote, they won't switch their vote, they will vote for a pedophile because there is an R by his name.  

Merica.

Studds was a central figure in the 1983 Congressional page sex scandal, when he and Representative Dan Crane were each separately censured by the House of Representatives for an inappropriate relationship with a congressional page — in Studds' case, a 1983 sexual relationship with a 17-year-old male. During the course of the House Ethics Committee's investigation, Studds publicly acknowledged his homosexuality, a disclosure that, according to a Washington Post article, "apparently was not news to many of his constituents." Studds stated in an address to the House, "It is not a simple task for any of us to meet adequately the obligations of either public or private life, let alone both, but these challenges are made substantially more complex when one is, as I am, both an elected public official and gay." He acknowledged that it had been inappropriate to engage in a relationship with a subordinate, and said his actions represented "a very serious error in judgment."[3]

On July 20, 1983, the House voted to censure Studds, by a vote of 420-3. With his back to the other members, Studds faced the Speaker who was reading the motion.[4] In addition to voting the censure, the Democratic leadership stripped Studds of his chairmanship of the House Merchant Marine Subcommittee. (Seven years later, in 1990, Studds was appointed chair of the House Committee on Merchant Marine and Fisheries.) Studds received two standing ovations from supporters in his home district at his first town meeting following his congressional censure.[5]

Studds defended his sexual involvement as a "consensual relationship with a young adult." Dean Hara, whom Studds married in 2004, said after Studds' death in 2006 that Studds had never been ashamed of the relationship. "This young man knew what he was doing," Hara said.[6] In testimony to investigators, the page described the relationship as consensual and not intimidating.[7]

DWags wrote:

LooseGoose wrote:

Wags?

Did you feel this was about Dems when they repeatedly voted for Ted Kennedy? He actually killed a woman. Then he and the press had some laughs about making :waitress sandwiches" when he and Sen Chris Dodd (D) were drunk. I'll bet those women really enjoyed that.

Also look up Studds, Gerry and tell me all about Tribalism? OK?


Yep his D supporters weren't "tribal" at all. Nothing new under the sun.

Goose? Why would you think I’d support either? Seriously? I know you do because of the R, bu it’s insulting that you think everyone operates like you do. “They did it so I am too”. I have no doubt that republicans and democrats are equally as scummy. Fortunately there are people who won’t vote for scumbags either and say it’s because the other side does.

Didn’t you complain about some teen magazine running some horrible story? Did this guys answers really please you to the point you think he should be a senator?

Wow. That’s horrible.

DWags wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
do you know what else is horrible?

Hillary Clinton - she's horrible!!!!!!

Here's what link I'd like.  Show me a link where somebody has come to the aid of the Hollywood scum.   And not just a one person somebody.  Show me the zombie like assholes tweeting about their innocence like these knuckle dragging idiots are doing down in Alabama, not singularly, but in droves. Thousands of them.   My god, I'm not an investigator, nor am I on a jury here, but his answers to Hannity were embarrassing at minimum, alarming at worst.  

Here's what else, and I'll blow everyone away.   I don't give a fuck if you vote for this guy and he gets sworn in office.  We get what we deserve.  But please don't tell me you're a baby saving God fearing righteous living christian.  Just call yourself the scumbag you are and say I'm voting for this guy cause he's probably racist like me, and even though he won't help me out, probably hurt me, at least the colored people will be hurt by him too.  Cause I'd rather the colored and gays get hurt than you help all of us in the same socio economic stratus.