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Billy Mitchell Defends His Disputed Scores at Donkey Kong
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2018/02/king-of-kong-star-says-original-tape-will-prove-his-disputed-scores/
"Over the weekend, Donkey Kong Forum moderator Jeremy Young removed competitive video gamer Billy Mitchell's highest claimed Donkey Kong scores from the forum after presenting credible evidence that these scores were achieved via MAME emulation rather than on actual arcade hardware. Mitchell addressed those accusations publicly for the first time on an episode of The East Side Dave show recorded Tuesday (subscription required).
After a long and meandering conversation about his career both before and after The King of Kong documentary helped raise his media profile, Mitchell did acknowledge that "the film footage that [Young] has... shows MAME play," referring to the Multiple Arcade Machine Emulator. Such footage would be potentially susceptible to manipulation via stitched-together recording of game inputs, and it would go against Mitchell's claims that his scores were recorded on actual arcade hardware."
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"Update (Feb. 4, 2018): Former Donkey Kong world record holder Wes Copeland has presented new statistical evidence that he says suggests Mitchell's 1.05 million point game was patched together from multiple emulated plays. Drawing data from the KongTrackr analysis app, Copeland says Mitchell's run derives a significantly higher-than-average ratio of points from smashing enemies with the hammer.
Since the points derived from those enemy smashes are assigned semi-randomly (as detailed here), Copeland says such a statistically divergent performance "is evidence of splicing. Billy replayed the boards over and over until he got the right smash RNG [random number generation] to lock in his pace." Copeland adds that it's "extremely unlikely" such a performance could happen due to pure chance in a single run. While this statistical evidence is still a bit circumstantial, it certainly takes on added weight when combined with the evidence of MAME play presented below.
Amid all this unfolding drama, Robbie Lakeman managed to beat his own Donkey Kong world record in a livestreamed performance on Friday. Lakeman surpassed a December mark of 1,230,100 by scoring 1,247,700 points."
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2018/02/donkey-kong-scoreboard-strips-billy-mitchells-high-score-claims/
Congrats to Robbie Lakeman on being #1 again.
"Over the weekend, Donkey Kong Forum moderator Jeremy Young removed competitive video gamer Billy Mitchell's highest claimed Donkey Kong scores from the forum after presenting credible evidence that these scores were achieved via MAME emulation rather than on actual arcade hardware. Mitchell addressed those accusations publicly for the first time on an episode of The East Side Dave show recorded Tuesday (subscription required).
After a long and meandering conversation about his career both before and after The King of Kong documentary helped raise his media profile, Mitchell did acknowledge that "the film footage that [Young] has... shows MAME play," referring to the Multiple Arcade Machine Emulator. Such footage would be potentially susceptible to manipulation via stitched-together recording of game inputs, and it would go against Mitchell's claims that his scores were recorded on actual arcade hardware."
and
"Update (Feb. 4, 2018): Former Donkey Kong world record holder Wes Copeland has presented new statistical evidence that he says suggests Mitchell's 1.05 million point game was patched together from multiple emulated plays. Drawing data from the KongTrackr analysis app, Copeland says Mitchell's run derives a significantly higher-than-average ratio of points from smashing enemies with the hammer.
Since the points derived from those enemy smashes are assigned semi-randomly (as detailed here), Copeland says such a statistically divergent performance "is evidence of splicing. Billy replayed the boards over and over until he got the right smash RNG [random number generation] to lock in his pace." Copeland adds that it's "extremely unlikely" such a performance could happen due to pure chance in a single run. While this statistical evidence is still a bit circumstantial, it certainly takes on added weight when combined with the evidence of MAME play presented below.
Amid all this unfolding drama, Robbie Lakeman managed to beat his own Donkey Kong world record in a livestreamed performance on Friday. Lakeman surpassed a December mark of 1,230,100 by scoring 1,247,700 points."
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2018/02/donkey-kong-scoreboard-strips-billy-mitchells-high-score-claims/
Congrats to Robbie Lakeman on being #1 again.
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All I know is that I never should've listened to my parents when they said that you can't make money playing video games. There is a lot of money to be made playing video games, just takes a ton of practice.
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Re: Billy Mitchell Defends His Disputed Scores at Donkey Kong
InTenSity wrote:All I know is that I never should've listened to my parents when they said that you can't make money playing video games. There is a lot of money to be made playing video games, just takes a ton of practice.
Have you ever seen King of Kong A Fistful of Quarters? It's an amazing doc about pro gamers. Highly recommended.
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I have not seen King of Kong. If the dude wasn't playing on legit arcade machines, I can see why purists would shit on him.
Also, fuck you, steve.
Also, fuck you, steve.
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Isn't this game 30 some years old? Who gives a shit.
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Cameron wrote:I have not seen King of Kong. If the dude wasn't playing on legit arcade machines, I can see why purists would shit on him.
Also, fuck you, steve.
It’s a good movie, I think you’d like it.
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Watch Out Pylon! wrote:Isn't this game 30 some years old? Who gives a shit.
It ranks right around competitive eating as one of those weird niche sports.
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So glad we're getting to the bottom of this.
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https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/04/12/601867538/game-of-thrown-barrels-in-shocking-twist-scandal-fells-donkey-kong-royalty
What a shit show.
What a shit show.
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the fact that there is a public dispute about Donkey Kong explains so much about American society at this moment in time.
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I’m distraught and disillusioned. Fuck it, I’m going back to watching competitive ironing.
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I used to be pretty good at Dig Dug. Anyone remember that game? It had no end. I could go all day on that game at like 10 years old. Let's start a league!
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I was the local master of Frogger and Missile Command.. I'd go to the skating rink, slap my quarter down on the control panel as if to say "I got next" and the other kids would scurry like cockroaches.Watch Out Pylon! wrote:I used to be pretty good at Dig Dug. Anyone remember that game? It had no end. I could go all day on that game at like 10 years old. Let's start a league!
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tGreenWay wrote:I’m distraught and disillusioned. Fuck it, I’m going back to watching competitive ironing.
I don’t think this is over. I expect Billy mitchell to lawyer up and clear his name.
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Maybe that is just because you smelled so bad back then Bob.Robert J Sakimano wrote:I was the local master of Frogger and Missile Command.. I'd go to the skating rink, slap my quarter down on the control panel as if to say "I got next" and the other kids would scurry like cockroaches.Watch Out Pylon! wrote:I used to be pretty good at Dig Dug. Anyone remember that game? It had no end. I could go all day on that game at like 10 years old. Let's start a league!
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could've been my sweet mullet, too.MSU addict wrote:Maybe that is just because you smelled so bad back then Bob.Robert J Sakimano wrote:
I was the local master of Frogger and Missile Command.. I'd go to the skating rink, slap my quarter down on the control panel as if to say "I got next" and the other kids would scurry like cockroaches.
I had a sweet mullet back then.
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steveschneider wrote:tGreenWay wrote:I’m distraught and disillusioned. Fuck it, I’m going back to watching competitive ironing.
I don’t think this is over. I expect Billy mitchell to lawyer up and clear his name.
No, man, no. I can’t take it anymore. Stop this madness!
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http://variety.com/2018/gaming/news/billy-mitchell-pac-man-world-record-1202752594/
Book of Guinness World Records just stripped Billy Mitchell of all his records. OUCH!
Book of Guinness World Records just stripped Billy Mitchell of all his records. OUCH!
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Even hit HotAir now...
King Of Kong: High-Score Arcade Gamer Has His Records Stripped
King Of Kong: High-Score Arcade Gamer Has His Records Stripped
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Why is this news? I don't get it.
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Watch Out Pylon! wrote:Why is this news? I don't get it.
king of Kong Fistfull of Quarters was a great documentary about 10 years ago. If you saw it you’d care. It’s a cult classic and has a lot of fans.
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steveschneider wrote:Watch Out Pylon! wrote:Why is this news? I don't get it.
king of Kong Fistfull of Quarters was a great documentary about 10 years ago. If you saw it you’d care. It’s a cult classic and has a lot of fans.
If it wasn't on the front page of the People's World yesterday Pylon doesn't know about it.
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