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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher 2018-03-04, 11:55

One of the mgodouchebags tweets that our fans were chanting Hitler Hitler at Wagner and The Big Lead ran with it. On rivals those at the game are saying it was "Vogg-ner, Vogg-ner"

https://thebiglead.com/2018/03/04/did-michigan-state-fans-chant-hitler-at-michigans-mo-wagner/
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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That 2018-03-04, 11:58

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:One of the mgodouchebags tweets that our fans were chanting Hitler Hitler at Wagner and The Big Lead ran with it. On rivals those at the game are saying it was "Vogg-ner, Vogg-ner"

https://thebiglead.com/2018/03/04/did-michigan-state-fans-chant-hitler-at-michigans-mo-wagner/

Sounds a lot more like Hitler than his last name to me. That’s kinda embarrassing.
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Post by Turtleneck 2018-03-04, 12:12

I think the Trump family was there chanting "shithole, shithole, shithole."

Anyway, it kind of sounds like Hitler, so.....

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Post by steveschneider 2018-03-04, 12:20

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:One of the mgodouchebags tweets that our fans were chanting Hitler Hitler at Wagner and The Big Lead ran with it. On rivals those at the game are saying it was "Vogg-ner, Vogg-ner"

https://thebiglead.com/2018/03/04/did-michigan-state-fans-chant-hitler-at-michigans-mo-wagner/

I can confirm that’s 100% bullshit. I didn’t hear anyone calling him hitler.
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Post by steveschneider 2018-03-04, 12:31

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:One of the mgodouchebags tweets that our fans were chanting Hitler Hitler at Wagner and The Big Lead ran with it. On rivals those at the game are saying it was "Vogg-ner, Vogg-ner"

https://thebiglead.com/2018/03/04/did-michigan-state-fans-chant-hitler-at-michigans-mo-wagner/

Weird coincidence, when we got home last night we watched Real Time and Bill had a rant about these kinds of click bait stories.

https://twitter.com/billmaher/status/969832172323393538

Basically if some dumb fucks on twitter are offended a news outlet will run a story on it like it is news using those blogger/twitter morons as a source. I think he has a point.
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Post by Guest 2018-03-04, 13:08

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:One of the mgodouchebags tweets that our fans were chanting Hitler Hitler at Wagner and The Big Lead ran with it. On rivals those at the game are saying it was "Vogg-ner, Vogg-ner"

https://thebiglead.com/2018/03/04/did-michigan-state-fans-chant-hitler-at-michigans-mo-wagner/

So their theory is? As MSU fans we have to live with the stain of Nassar, but as a German Wagner is immune from any Hitler talk? Sounds about right.
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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That 2018-03-04, 13:13

LooseGoose wrote:
WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:One of the mgodouchebags tweets that our fans were chanting Hitler Hitler at Wagner and The Big Lead ran with it. On rivals those at the game are saying it was "Vogg-ner, Vogg-ner"

https://thebiglead.com/2018/03/04/did-michigan-state-fans-chant-hitler-at-michigans-mo-wagner/

So their theory is? As MSU fans we have to live with the stain of Nassar, but as a German Wagner is immune from any Hitler talk? Sounds about right.

Chanting Hitler at a German basketball player would be pathetic, goose. Just like chanting Nassar at a MSU basketball player would be.

(I have no idea what they were chanting at said game)
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Post by Guest 2018-03-04, 14:11

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LooseGoose wrote:

So their theory is? As MSU fans we have to live with the stain of Nassar, but as a German Wagner is immune from any Hitler talk? Sounds about right.

Chanting Hitler at a German basketball player would be pathetic, goose. Just like chanting Nassar at a MSU basketball player would be.

(I have no idea what they were chanting at said game)

I was chanting neither, I was cursing our team and coach.
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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That 2018-03-04, 15:05

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Chanting Hitler at a German basketball player would be pathetic, goose. Just like chanting Nassar at a MSU basketball player would be.

(I have no idea what they were chanting at said game)

I was chanting neither, I was cursing our team and coach.

Me too goose me too. What a dreadful performance.
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Post by Guest 2018-03-04, 16:02

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I was chanting neither, I was cursing our team and coach.

Me too goose me too. What a dreadful performance.

IT all came unraveled when Puddin' missed those 2 early bunnies in the 2nd half.
Wags has been babying him all year and he's not mentally tough.
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Post by NigelUno 2018-03-04, 16:08

LooseGoose wrote:
WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:One of the mgodouchebags tweets that our fans were chanting Hitler Hitler at Wagner and The Big Lead ran with it. On rivals those at the game are saying it was "Vogg-ner, Vogg-ner"

https://thebiglead.com/2018/03/04/did-michigan-state-fans-chant-hitler-at-michigans-mo-wagner/

So their theory is? As MSU fans we have to live with the stain of Nassar, but as a German Wagner is immune from any Hitler talk? Sounds about right.

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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That 2018-03-04, 16:30

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Me too goose me too. What a dreadful performance.

IT all came unraveled when Puddin' missed those 2 early bunnies in the 2nd half.
Wags has been babying him all year and he's not mentally tough.

Hasn’t learned how to play defense or pass out of the post/a double team. Not sure if he realizes he can get the ball back if he passes it out after getting it initially.
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Post by Guest 2018-03-04, 16:33

Gotta choke back the bile a bit and root for the Boilers.....don't like their fans but they're a helluva step up over the scUMmers.
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Post by aualum06 2018-03-04, 16:33

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IT all came unraveled when Puddin' missed those 2 early bunnies in the 2nd half.
Wags has been babying him all year and he's not mentally tough.

Hasn’t learned how to play defense or pass out of the post/a double team. Not sure if he realizes he can get the ball back if he passes it out after getting it initially.

Best time to get the ball in the post is after passing out and reposting
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Post by Rocinante 2018-03-04, 22:54

“Let the cards go” should be our motto guys.
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Post by DWags 2018-03-04, 23:09

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Hasn’t learned how to play defense or pass out of the post/a double team. Not sure if he realizes he can get the ball back if he passes it out after getting it initially.

Best time to get the ball in the post is after passing out and reposting


Or when you're wide open for a dunk.
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! 2018-03-05, 08:28

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:One of the mgodouchebags tweets that our fans were chanting Hitler Hitler at Wagner and The Big Lead ran with it. On rivals those at the game are saying it was "Vogg-ner, Vogg-ner"

https://thebiglead.com/2018/03/04/did-michigan-state-fans-chant-hitler-at-michigans-mo-wagner/

Heard this morning on the drive in some MSU fans found out that his first name is Victor. That's what they were chanting. I think we can close the case on this one boys.
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Post by steveschneider 2018-03-05, 08:43

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:
WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:One of the mgodouchebags tweets that our fans were chanting Hitler Hitler at Wagner and The Big Lead ran with it. On rivals those at the game are saying it was "Vogg-ner, Vogg-ner"

https://thebiglead.com/2018/03/04/did-michigan-state-fans-chant-hitler-at-michigans-mo-wagner/

Heard this morning on the drive in some MSU fans found out that his first name is Victor. That's what they were chanting. I think we can close the case on this one boys.

2018 people are offended by something they can’t even confirm is true. The first tweets were I can’t tell what they are saying but IF they are saying Hitler just wow. To Sparty calling our German player Hitler. If MSU was chanting Hitler in MSG I guarantee the Ny Post and Times would have ripped the fans a new one. Bottom line it didn’t happen. chalk this one up to stupid social media outrage.
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher 2018-03-05, 09:06

Steve did you watch the video? Did you hear them chant anything in the arena? In the video you can clearly hear them chanting. So if you are saying bottom line it didn't happen and haven't watched the video maybe you should watch the video. If you are saying bottom line that's not what they were chanting then let's be clear about that.

I read somewhere else that Wagner's real name is Victor and that's what they were chanting. Appears to be true (that is his real name - cannot verify what they were chanting)

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Post by steveschneider 2018-03-05, 09:18

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Steve did you watch the video? Did you hear them chant anything in the arena? In the video you can clearly hear them chanting. So if you are saying bottom line it didn't happen and haven't watched the video maybe you should watch the video. If you are saying bottom line that's not what they were chanting then let's be clear about that.

I read somewhere else that Wagner's real name is Victor and that's what they were chanting. Appears to be true (that is his real name - cannot verify what they were chanting)

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I remember the moment well. Chant was definitely coming from that area of our brass band. I’m saying they didn’t chant hitler. There was a UofM guy on twitter sitting right behind our band that said they didn’t say Hitler. It’s probably like the old days in tiger stadium where they were saying Lou but people thought it was booh.
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Post by Guest 2018-03-05, 09:23

It's just SJW's looking to stir shit over something. Make something up close to the truth, act hurt, spread the shit and hope someone bites. Fuck M fans. Fuck MSG.
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! 2018-03-05, 09:25

LooseGoose wrote:It's just SJW's looking to stir shit over something. Make something up close to the truth, act hurt, spread the shit and hope someone bites. Fuck M fans. Fuck MSG.

What's wrong with MSG?
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher 2018-03-05, 09:29

I don't really think it has anything to do with SJWs. It has to do with Mgodouchebags trying to come up with another reason why MSU is despicable.

It could be Hitler. The Victor explanation seems pretty plausible to me, though.
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Post by Nordic 2018-03-05, 09:29

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:It's just SJW's looking to stir shit over something. Make something up close to the truth, act hurt, spread the shit and hope someone bites. Fuck M fans. Fuck MSG.

What's wrong with MSG?

It's in New York
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Post by DWags 2018-03-05, 09:35

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:I don't really think it has anything to do with SJWs. It has to do with Mgodouchebags trying to come up with another reason why MSU is despicable.


Johnny Marzetti in the Holmes hall cafe was always a good enough reason for me
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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That 2018-03-05, 09:35

LooseGoose wrote:It's just SJW's looking to stir shit over something. Make something up close to the truth, act hurt, spread the shit and hope someone bites. Fuck M fans. Fuck MSG.

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Post by Guest 2018-03-05, 09:38

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:I don't really think it has anything to do with SJWs. It has to do with Mgodouchebags trying to come up with another reason why MSU is despicable.

It could be Hitler. The Victor explanation seems pretty plausible to me, though.

" SJWs. It has to do with Mgodouchebags"

Same thing.
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Post by steveschneider 2018-03-05, 09:53

I just think common sense should win out here. The chant was coming from Mo’s right hand side. This was well within ear shot of the broadcaster press table which was on the same side. Not to mention Tom Izzo was within close proximity as the MSU bench was on Mo’s left hand side. If it did happen I’d expect some reasonable adult to confirm they heard it who was at the game. I’d also expect Mo or a UofM player to mention it or perhaps Beilein. Solari, Couch, Windsor and Baumgardner all had to be close to it too. Not to mention the NYP or NY Daily news who lives to cover shit like that. If it actually happened I think people would have confirmed it. It did not sound like Hitler to me when I was there but whatever.


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Post by steveschneider 2018-03-05, 10:05

This is my last post on it unless a major media outlet picks up the story, but just went through reddit on UofM page and multiple UofM fans that were actually at the game saying it didn't happen. I really think this is just an Mgoblog generated controversy.

Also, remember tv mic's can pick up strange audio sometime...the tv recording sounds so ambiguous to me I can't even tell what's being chanted.
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Post by MiamiSpartan 2018-03-05, 11:54

steveschneider wrote:
WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Steve did you watch the video? Did you hear them chant anything in the arena? In the video you can clearly hear them chanting. So if you are saying bottom line it didn't happen and haven't watched the video maybe you should watch the video. If you are saying bottom line that's not what they were chanting then let's be clear about that.

I read somewhere else that Wagner's real name is Victor and that's what they were chanting. Appears to be true (that is his real name - cannot verify what they were chanting)



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I remember the moment well. Chant was definitely coming from that area of our brass band. I’m saying they didn’t chant hitler. There was a UofM guy on twitter sitting right behind our band that said they didn’t say Hitler. It’s probably like the old days in tiger stadium where they were saying Lou but people thought it was booh.
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Post by steveschneider 2018-03-05, 11:56

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I remember the moment well. Chant was definitely coming from that area of our brass band. I’m saying they didn’t chant hitler. There was a UofM guy on twitter sitting right behind our band that said they didn’t say Hitler. It’s probably like the old days in tiger stadium where they were saying Lou but people thought it was booh.

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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher 2018-03-06, 08:25

Harns did some legwork and wrote this. Already getting blowback from Walmart Nation on Twitter.

https://www.isportsweb.com/2018/03/05/no-michigan-state-basketball-fans-did-not-chant-hitler-at-michigans-mo-wagner/
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! 2018-03-06, 08:35

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Harns did some legwork and wrote this. Already getting blowback from Walmart Nation on Twitter.

https://www.isportsweb.com/2018/03/05/no-michigan-state-basketball-fans-did-not-chant-hitler-at-michigans-mo-wagner/

Dumb people love to be outraged over the stupidest shit.
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Post by Guest 2018-03-06, 09:20

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Harns did some legwork and wrote this. Already getting blowback from Walmart Nation on Twitter.

https://www.isportsweb.com/2018/03/05/no-michigan-state-basketball-fans-did-not-chant-hitler-at-michigans-mo-wagner/

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I think he's too straight edge for us. He's strictly by the book. I do love that but methinks he wouldn't fit in very well around here.
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