Ranking the Sweet 16 teams by tradition -- 2019 NCAA tournament

by **NigelUno** 3/27/2019, 9:47 am

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/26341206/ranking-sweet-16-teams-tradition-2019-ncaa-tournament

4. Michigan State Spartans

Magic Johnson led Michigan State to its first national title in 1979. Michigan State/Collegiate Images/Getty Images
NCAA tournament appearances: 33
National championships: 2 (2000, 1979)
Final Fours: 9 (2015, 2010, 2009, 2005, 2001, 2000, 1999, 1979, 1957)
All-time program icon (player): Magic Johnson
All-time program icon (coach): TOM IZZO
NBA players (all time, active rosters): 49

"Wannabe" by the Spice Girls was the No. 1 song the last time Michigan State wasn't playing in the NCAA tournament in March (1997, as if you'd have to look it up). There aren't many programs more universally respected than Tom Izzo's Spartans, and this is a fan base that annually has realistic expectations of a Final Four.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** 3/27/2019, 9:52 am

FUCK YOU B$PN! Oh, wait..

Cool. Go green!

by **NigelUno** 3/27/2019, 9:55 am

Beilein is Michigan's icon coach?

Suspect

by AvgMSUJoe 3/27/2019, 1:33 pm

NigelUno wrote:Beilein is Michigan's icon coach?

Isn't he the all-time winning-est?

I thought I saw an article headline on that.

by **Watch Out Pylon!** 3/27/2019, 1:38 pm

AvgMSUJoe wrote:
NigelUno wrote:Beilein is Michigan's icon coach?

Isn't he the all-time winning-est?

I thought I saw an article headline on that.

I mean the only other option is Steve Fisher and he was coach when the Ed Martin shit went down. The only other possible option is Bill Frieder and he ended up not being a "Michigan Man".

by **NigelUno** 3/27/2019, 2:20 pm

AvgMSUJoe wrote:
NigelUno wrote:Beilein is Michigan's icon coach?

Isn't he the all-time winning-est?

I thought I saw an article headline on that.

Fish has a title, and had to approve the baggy shorts (talk about iconic).

by **kingstonlake** 3/27/2019, 3:46 pm

Jay Monahan allowed PGA tour players to wear shorts in practice and Pro-Am rounds. He is the most iconic Commissioner in PGA tour history.

by **tGreenWay** 3/27/2019, 4:10 pm

kingstonlake wrote:Jay Monahan allowed PGA tour players to wear shorts in practice and Pro-Am rounds. He is the most iconic Commissioner in PGA tour history.

Jay Bush allowed a talking dog to steal his secret family recipe. He is the most iconic in baked bean history.

by **DWags** 3/27/2019, 4:38 pm

Indiana isn't ahead of Michigan in that? Strange. i mean I guess the fab five put a stamp on college basketball, and frankly the world with the baggy shorts and black shoes. That's not debatable. I was an A.D. during that time. My god, I had to dump uniforms and order long baggy shorts or I'd have been killed by kids and parents too. The fab five was like the fucking beetles. Kids worshiped them. But I still like the candy cain stripes and tradition of Indiana basketball. Whatevs.

by **kingstonlake** 3/27/2019, 4:39 pm

tGreenWay wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:Jay Monahan allowed PGA tour players to wear shorts in practice and Pro-Am rounds. He is the most iconic Commissioner in PGA tour history.

Jay Bush allowed a talking dog to steal his secret family recipe. He is the most iconic in baked bean history.

Tito Fuentes use to flip his bat on home plate. He is the most iconic second baseman ever.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** 3/27/2019, 4:44 pm

tGreenWay wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:Jay Monahan allowed PGA tour players to wear shorts in practice and Pro-Am rounds. He is the most iconic Commissioner in PGA tour history.

Jay Bush allowed a talking dog to steal his secret family recipe. He is the most iconic in baked bean history.

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by **Rocinante** 3/27/2019, 4:46 pm

kingstonlake wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:

Jay Bush allowed a talking dog to steal his secret family recipe. He is the most iconic in baked bean history.

Tito Fuentes use to flip his bat on home plate. He is the most iconic second baseman ever.

Tito Puente used to flip his sticks. He is the most iconic Timbaletas player in history.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 3/27/2019, 5:12 pm

DWags wrote:Indiana isn't ahead of Michigan in that? Strange. i mean I guess the fab five put a stamp on college basketball, and frankly the world with the baggy shorts and black shoes. That's not debatable. I was an A.D. during that time. My god, I had to dump uniforms and order long baggy shorts or I'd have been killed by kids and parents too. The fab five was like the fucking beetles. Kids worshiped them. But I still like the candy cain stripes and tradition of Indiana basketball. Whatevs.

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by **tGreenWay** 3/27/2019, 5:19 pm

kingstonlake wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:

Jay Bush allowed a talking dog to steal his secret family recipe. He is the most iconic in baked bean history.

Tito Fuentes use to flip his bat on home plate. He is the most iconic second baseman ever.

Bert Campaneris once threw his bat at Tigers pitcher Lerrin Legrow during the ‘72 ALCS. He is the most iconic shortstop ever.

by **kingstonlake** 3/27/2019, 5:26 pm

tGreenWay wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:

Tito Fuentes use to flip his bat on home plate. He is the most iconic second baseman ever.

Bert Campaneris once threw his bat at Tigers pitcher Lerrin Legrow during the ‘72 ALCS. He is the most iconic shortstop ever.

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by **kingstonlake** 3/27/2019, 5:34 pm

Dave Rozema delivered the best karate kick that ended his own career ever. Therefore he is the most iconic pitcher ever. FTR Larry Herndon was good at fighting. So was Richie Hebner. Jesus there were alot of punches landed. Not like these pussy millennial fake baseball fights now.

by **WhiteBoyHatcher** 3/27/2019, 6:07 pm

DWags wrote:Indiana isn't ahead of Michigan in that? Strange. i mean I guess the fab five put a stamp on college basketball, and frankly the world with the baggy shorts and black shoes. That's not debatable. I was an A.D. during that time. My god, I had to dump uniforms and order long baggy shorts or I'd have been killed by kids and parents too. The fab five was like the fucking beetles. Kids worshiped them. But I still like the candy cain stripes and tradition of Indiana basketball. Whatevs.

Umm... Wags?

by **tGreenWay** 3/27/2019, 6:10 pm

kingstonlake wrote:Dave Rozema delivered the best karate kick that ended his own career ever. Therefore he is the most iconic pitcher ever. FTR Larry Herndon was good at fighting. So was Richie Hebner. Jesus there were alot of punches landed. Not like these pussy millennial fake baseball fights now.

Iowa’s Ron Hawley once tackled the goalpost at Spartan Stadium, making him the most iconic DB ever.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** 3/27/2019, 6:42 pm

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:
DWags wrote:Indiana isn't ahead of Michigan in that? Strange. i mean I guess the fab five put a stamp on college basketball, and frankly the world with the baggy shorts and black shoes. That's not debatable. I was an A.D. during that time. My god, I had to dump uniforms and order long baggy shorts or I'd have been killed by kids and parents too. The fab five was like the fucking beetles. Kids worshiped them. But I still like the candy cain stripes and tradition of Indiana basketball. Whatevs.

Umm... Wags?

Let the old man be wbh. He’s had a long and difficult life and it can be hard to hold on to details at the point. Let him live his fantasy. It’s not hurting anyone.

by **WhiteBoyHatcher** 3/27/2019, 6:45 pm

What's puzzling to me is that UCLA isn't on the list. You would think they would be top 5 for sure. Iconic coach probably Steve Lavin.

by **Nordic** 3/27/2019, 6:52 pm

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:What's puzzling to me is that UCLA isn't on the list. You would think they would be top 5 for sure. Iconic coach probably Steve Lavin.

What is a joke is VTech being on the list. Isn't this like their first S16?

by **NigelUno** 3/27/2019, 7:01 pm

Nordic wrote:
WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:What's puzzling to me is that UCLA isn't on the list. You would think they would be top 5 for sure. Iconic coach probably Steve Lavin.

What is a joke is VTech being on the list. Isn't this like their first F4?

Permaban if that actually happens.

by **kingstonlake** 3/27/2019, 7:17 pm

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:What's puzzling to me is that UCLA isn't on the list. You would think they would be top 5 for sure. Iconic coach probably Steve Lavin.

Leaving Kansas off the list is criminal.......

by **Floyd Robertson** 3/27/2019, 7:32 pm

kingstonlake wrote:Dave Rozema delivered the best karate kick that ended his own career ever. Therefore he is the most iconic pitcher ever. FTR Larry Herndon was good at fighting. So was Richie Hebner. Jesus there were alot of punches landed. Not like these pussy millennial fake baseball fights now.

Richie Hebner worked out in the offseason digging graves. With his bare hands. Therefore he is also the most inconic gravedigger in history.

by aualum06 3/27/2019, 7:57 pm

Floyd Robertson wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:Dave Rozema delivered the best karate kick that ended his own career ever. Therefore he is the most iconic pitcher ever. FTR Larry Herndon was good at fighting. So was Richie Hebner. Jesus there were alot of punches landed. Not like these pussy millennial fake baseball fights now.

Richie Hebner worked out in the offseason digging graves. With his bare hands. Therefore he is also the most inconic gravedigger in history.

What second is rozema at? Missed it twice. Sparky making don Zimmer look like a puss when Pedro threw him down lol

by **tGreenWay** 3/27/2019, 8:13 pm

aualum06 wrote:
Floyd Robertson wrote:

Richie Hebner worked out in the offseason digging graves. With his bare hands. Therefore he is also the most inconic gravedigger in history.

What second is rozema at? Missed it twice. Sparky making don Zimmer look like a puss when Pedro threw him down lol

As puffy as Zim was, I was always surprised he didn’t bounce back up.

by **tGreenWay** 3/27/2019, 8:15 pm

Floyd Robertson wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:Dave Rozema delivered the best karate kick that ended his own career ever. Therefore he is the most iconic pitcher ever. FTR Larry Herndon was good at fighting. So was Richie Hebner. Jesus there were alot of punches landed. Not like these pussy millennial fake baseball fights now.

Richie Hebner worked out in the offseason digging graves. With his bare hands. Therefore he is also the most inconic gravedigger in history.

I nominate Michael Avenatti as runnerup. Every time he opens his mouth, he digs his own grave a little deeper.

by **Floyd Robertson** 3/27/2019, 8:16 pm

tGreenWay wrote:
aualum06 wrote:

What second is rozema at? Missed it twice. Sparky making don Zimmer look like a puss when Pedro threw him down lol

As puffy as Zim was, I was always surprised he didn’t bounce back up.

I always thought if you put a different hat on Zim he could be Wimpy from Popeye.

by **Floyd Robertson** 3/27/2019, 8:16 pm

tGreenWay wrote:
Floyd Robertson wrote:

Richie Hebner worked out in the offseason digging graves. With his bare hands. Therefore he is also the most inconic gravedigger in history.

I nominate Michael Avenatti as runnerup. Every time he opens his mouth, he digs his own grave a little deeper.

by **tGreenWay** 3/27/2019, 8:17 pm

Floyd Robertson wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:

As puffy as Zim was, I was always surprised he didn’t bounce back up.

I always thought if you put a different hat on Zim he could be Wimpy from Popeye.

Zim always had money for a hamburger today.

by **kingstonlake** 3/27/2019, 8:26 pm

aualum06 wrote:
Floyd Robertson wrote:

Richie Hebner worked out in the offseason digging graves. With his bare hands. Therefore he is also the most inconic gravedigger in history.

What second is rozema at? Missed it twice. Sparky making don Zimmer look like a puss when Pedro threw him down lol

Not in the video. Think it's out there somewhere. I know there's photo stills. Tore he knee up though. Effectively done from there on out.

by **duffy munn** 3/27/2019, 8:28 pm

tGreenWay wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:

Tito Fuentes use to flip his bat on home plate. He is the most iconic second baseman ever.

Bert Campaneris once threw his bat at Tigers pitcher Lerrin Legrow during the ‘72 ALCS. He is the most iconic shortstop ever.

Cool story alert. I played in a golf outing with former Tiger pitcher Tom Timmerman about 15 years ago. Tom was on that 72 team. He told me Campy never even really was involved in the brawl after he threw the bat. He pretty much threw the bad and headed straight for the clubhouse.

Campy didn't stop there. he went right to the street and jumped in a cab. In uniform.

Smart move as that Tiger team was not one you wanted to brawl with. Frank Howard, Willie Horton, Bill Freehan, Crazy Norm Cash, Duke Simms, Gates and Ike Brown. the Tigers didn't win the series but they surely would have kicked their ass in a fight.

by **duffy munn** 3/27/2019, 8:35 pm

tGreenWay wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:

Tito Fuentes use to flip his bat on home plate. He is the most iconic second baseman ever.

Bert Campaneris once threw his bat at Tigers pitcher Lerrin Legrow during the ‘72 ALCS. He is the most iconic shortstop ever.

Cool story alert. I played in a golf outing with former Tiger pitcher Tom Timmerman about 15 years ago. Tom was on that 72 team. He told me Campy never even really was involved in the brawl after he threw the bat. He pretty much threw the bad and headed straight for the clubhouse.

Campy didn't stop there. he went right to the street and jumped in a cab. In uniform.

Smart move as that Tiger team was not one you wanted to brawl with. Frank Howard, Willie Horton, Bill Freehan, Crazy Norm Cash, Duke Simms, Gates and Ike Brown. the Tigers didn't win the series but they surely would have kicked their ass in a fight.

Floyd Robertson wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:Dave Rozema delivered the best karate kick that ended his own career ever. Therefore he is the most iconic pitcher ever. FTR Larry Herndon was good at fighting. So was Richie Hebner. Jesus there were alot of punches landed. Not like these pussy millennial fake baseball fights now.

Richie Hebner worked out in the offseason digging graves. With his bare hands. Therefore he is also the most inconic gravedigger in history.

the video doesn't show it but Hebner ( the hacker as George Kell used to call him) kicked that guys ass from the first base pretty much to the 325 sign in right field.

by aualum06 3/27/2019, 9:24 pm

kingstonlake wrote:
aualum06 wrote:

What second is rozema at? Missed it twice. Sparky making don Zimmer look like a puss when Pedro threw him down lol

Not in the video. Think it's out there somewhere. I know there's photo stills. Tore he knee up though. Effectively done from there on out.

I just assumed that was him on the stretcher at the end

by aualum06 3/27/2019, 9:24 pm

Floyd Robertson wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:

As puffy as Zim was, I was always surprised he didn’t bounce back up.

I always thought if you put a different hat on Zim he could be Wimpy from Popeye.

In Clare Floyd it's nice to be up north again

by **kingstonlake** 3/27/2019, 9:47 pm

aualum06 wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:

Not in the video. Think it's out there somewhere. I know there's photo stills. Tore he knee up though. Effectively done from there on out.

I just assumed that was him on the stretcher at the end

Yes that was him, btw

by **DWags** 3/27/2019, 9:49 pm

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:
DWags wrote:Indiana isn't ahead of Michigan in that? Strange. i mean I guess the fab five put a stamp on college basketball, and frankly the world with the baggy shorts and black shoes. That's not debatable. I was an A.D. during that time. My god, I had to dump uniforms and order long baggy shorts or I'd have been killed by kids and parents too. The fab five was like the fucking beetles. Kids worshiped them. But I still like the candy cain stripes and tradition of Indiana basketball. Whatevs.

Umm... Wags?

Oh, lol. I thought it was all time. Ranking the Sweet 16 teams by tradition -- 2019 NCAA tournament 502811600

Sorry, it’s been a hectic week.

by **tGreenWay** 3/27/2019, 10:27 pm

aualum06 wrote:
Floyd Robertson wrote:

I always thought if you put a different hat on Zim he could be Wimpy from Popeye.

In Clare Floyd it's nice to be up north again

Take one step north of the city limits; then you’re officially Up North.

by **WhiteBoyHatcher** 3/27/2019, 10:57 pm

DWags wrote:
WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:

Umm... Wags?

Oh, lol. I thought it was all time.

Sorry, it’s been a hectic week.

Indeed. I'm a little bit upset about Texas Western's non inclusion. Historic team.

Iconic Player: Tim Hardaway

by **NigelUno** 3/27/2019, 11:08 pm

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