Interesting article on Harbaugh UofM vs. MSU spending on coaches and recruiting.

In the Harbaugh era, Michigan has spent a total of $4.7 million on recruiting while MSU has spent $2.9 million, according to Michigan and MSU athletic financial records obtained by MLive through the Freedom of Information Act. The result? Three top-10 recruiting classes for Harbaugh, compared to zero for MSU coach Mark Dantonio. The Spartans’ highest-ranked recruiting class was the 2016 group that included four-star players Donnie Corley and Josh King, both of whom were dismissed from the program amid criminal seduction charges, and Auston Robertson, who took a plea deal in 2018 while facing sexual assault charges and was also dismissed. Harbaugh’s lowest-ranked class came in 2015, just months after taking the job at Michigan, when it finished 37th nationally. There is also a major disparity in the two coaches’ paychecks. Michigan pays Harbaugh a $7.5 million yearly compensation package while Dantonio earns $4.3 million. Michigan also doles out more in assistant coach pay, with a total of $14 million in coaching salaries for the 2017-18 season compared to $9 million for Michigan State over the same span. wrote:

Floyd Robertson wrote:I'd be OK with being in the top 20 in spending and finishes every year, not cheating, contending for a B1G East championship ever three years and never finishing below 9-3. Should that really be unattainable with the resources MSU has?

Wally Fairway wrote:

Do you two, and so many others have alzheimers or dementia?
Look I'm hot saying things are good, they suck; and that Coach D should stay but I'm not saying it's time to boot him either.

But Iowa - yeah they are having a better year, but their program hasn't accomplished shit in a decade, maybe more.
Last time they we conference co-champions is 2004 (with Steve's favorite UM) and the last time Iowa was the outright B1G champion is 1985.
Dantonio proved that MSU can compete for the B1G, and yes it was when Michigan sucked and PSU slumped.
IMO - what has hurt this years team, is exactly the problem the program had in the late 1980's right through the Johnelle years; and that is lack of depth.

If Dantonio goes then he goes - but whoever comes in has to have the mindset that they can win at MSU (not like the pissy little shit Saban who turned tail and left)

Maybe it is time for Coach D to leave, because I certainly don't want MSU to turn into Iowa and be happy with 2 or 3 place finishes and an occasional slip. FWIW Ferentz has averaged about 7.5 wins per year in his stint at Iowa, about 8 wins a year for the last 10 years....that is mediocre, and it isn't going to change (and they have done that playing in the B1G West)

Sorry - this has turned into a long ramble....but changing coaches will be a decision point for the leadership at MSU, will the new President and AD want to make a commitment to winning, or be like DiBiaggio and kick athletics to the curb?
I, for one, don't want to see MSU return to sports as they were under that type of leadership.

InTenSity wrote:Wally,

I don't often convey everything I'm saying and the thoughts in my head don't finish writing things all the time. I thought Iowa was starting to put things back together, but it took Ferentz a few years of sub 500 in order to make changes necessary. I agree with you, I'm not on team #Fire Dantonio, yet. Ultimately I think it is up to him to decide if he wants to stay on for another 3-4 years to rebuild again. Unfortunately I'm not sure how good the offense is going to be, and that needs to be fixed. We're also a pretty horrible fanbase. If we aren't winning, people don't show up to games, if it isn't a premier opponent we have trouble filling the stands. I guess most other teams go through the same thing.
Anyway, I'm rambling and not making much sense. In closing, I think that Dantonio gets to figure this out on his own. If he continues to stick with the same staff that isn't producing, than that falls on him. If he is willing to make the necessary changes and see it through for a few more years before passing the whistle to another coach, I'm good with that too.

steveschneider wrote:When there's a quality game we've showed up. I guess our fan base realizes there's better things to do than watch MSU vs a cup cake. Maybe let us drink in the stadium and we'll show up.

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

Jake from State Farm wrote:

The really extended forecast: High of 42° and 50% chance of showers.

That sounds hideous.

Nordic wrote:

NigelUno wrote:Based on revenue/spending (and a correlation with winning), we should be behind OSU, UM, and Penn State every year.

The problem is losing to teams that are behind us in revenue/spending like Illinois (and Arizona State).

The problem with this reasoning is it also means we should be losing to teams ahead of us every year. Which is not the case over MD's tenure.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

DWags wrote:Dwags will be at SS 11/30/19. If it’s his last at SS, I’m going to make sure I’m there.

if I'm on campus, I'll swing by the DWags tailgate.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

DWags wrote:Dwags will be at SS 11/30/19. If it’s his last at SS, I’m going to make sure I’m there.

if I'm on campus, I'll swing by the DWags tailgate.

NigelUno wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote: if I'm on campus, I'll swing by the DWags tailgate.

Call ahead.