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Post by NigelUno 2019-11-18, 08:52

kingstonlake wrote:
steveschneider wrote:What about the rise of Luke Fickell at Cincy? Just another guy recruiting Ohio well.

I’ve got no data to back it up but he just has the feeling of being a type of guy with a limited ceiling. Like maybe Cincy is it?

I have a theory on Cincy coaches. Lots of talent in Ohio. They get solid players because of the depth of talent there. It might artificially build a resume. Sure, they do well in the AAC....

Interesting theory. Given that...you know...
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Post by AvgMSUJoe 2019-11-18, 09:06

Whomever is the next coach needs to hire Cass tech coach Wilcher as recruiting coordinator (or someone similar). The lack of talent isn't going to fix itself... and whoever controls Detroit in the state controls the rivalry. (apparently)
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Post by MiamiSpartan 2019-11-18, 09:17

steveschneider wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:

I’ve got no data to back it up but he just has the feeling of being a type of guy with a limited ceiling. Like maybe Cincy is it?

I have a theory on Cincy coaches. Lots of talent in Ohio. They get solid players because of the depth of talent there. It might artificially build a resume. Sure, they do well in the AAC....

From the article that Nigel posted above it sounds like it pains him to go up against OSU. It’s like really? Something weak about that. A guy like Nick Saban in his prime could be lured away with cash from any team and he could show up later and kick his former university’s ass with his new team. Gotta be cold blooded to be one of the greats.
Dantonio used to say the same kind of thing.
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Post by Wally Fairway 2019-11-18, 09:23

Clarett's Folly wrote:Similar question; what is the most John L. Smith hire MSU could make at this point?
Bret Beilema, would be the most Johnelle hire at this point

I'll add my votes to Duzzi, Fickell, Campbell - with a caveat that whomever they hire needs to embrace a new set of coaches on the offense and a mindset that reflect wanting to score points, lots of points

Oh and add Joannie Crean to the list (since we are including the Harbaugh names here)
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2019-11-18, 09:34

"I want YOU"!!

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Post by kingstonlake 2019-11-18, 09:49

NigelUno wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:

I’ve got no data to back it up but he just has the feeling of being a type of guy with a limited ceiling. Like maybe Cincy is it?

I have a theory on Cincy coaches. Lots of talent in Ohio. They get solid players because of the depth of talent there. It might artificially build a resume. Sure, they do well in the AAC....

Interesting theory. Given that...you know...

Peel the layers of the onion.
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Post by NigelUno 2019-11-18, 09:57

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Interesting theory. Given that...you know...

Peel the layers of the onion.

That analogy does fit your theory.

But your theory is a little thin on recognizing a few things.

Given that...you know...
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Post by kingstonlake 2019-11-18, 10:06

NigelUno wrote:
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Peel the layers of the onion.

That analogy does fit your theory.

But your theory is a little thin on recognizing a few things.

Given that...you know...

Now peel the layers of that onion...
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Post by NigelUno 2019-11-18, 10:09

kingstonlake wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

That analogy does fit your theory.

But your theory is a little thin on recognizing a few things.

Given that...you know...

Now peel the layers of that onion...

You might want to go buy some more onions and just make French Onion Soup.

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Post by kingstonlake 2019-11-18, 10:21

NigelUno wrote:
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Now peel the layers of that onion...

You might want to go buy some more onions and just make French Onion Soup.


Other chefs have fixed their recipes. Our onions are stale.  Doesn’t mean we have to apologize for them not having their recipes in order while ours were in the past. Obviously now that the other chefs have their shit in order our soup isn’t very good or sustainable. Given that ya know.....
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Post by NigelUno 2019-11-18, 10:25

kingstonlake wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

You might want to go buy some more onions and just make French Onion Soup.


Other chefs have fixed their recipes. Our onions are stale.  Doesn’t mean we have to apologize for them not having their recipes in order while ours were in the past. Obviously now that the other chefs have their shit in order our soup isn’t very good or sustainable. Given that ya know.....

Your theories and posts are stale.
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Post by steveschneider 2019-11-18, 10:30

What in the hell are you two saying?
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Post by NigelUno 2019-11-18, 10:35

steveschneider wrote:What in the hell are you two saying?

kingston's theory on hiring Cincy coaches ignores that we hired a Cincy Coach.

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Post by steveschneider 2019-11-18, 10:40

NigelUno wrote:
steveschneider wrote:What in the hell are you two saying?

kingston's theory on hiring Cincy coaches ignores that we hired a Cincy Coach.


Also, Brian Kelly...he's been to the playoffs twice? ex-Cincy coaches are bringing it.
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Post by kingstonlake 2019-11-18, 10:43

NigelUno wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:

Other chefs have fixed their recipes. Our onions are stale.  Doesn’t mean we have to apologize for them not having their recipes in order while ours were in the past. Obviously now that the other chefs have their shit in order our soup isn’t very good or sustainable. Given that ya know.....

Your theories and posts are stale.

I’m sorry peeling the onion made you cry.
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Post by kingstonlake 2019-11-18, 10:44

steveschneider wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

kingston's theory on hiring Cincy coaches ignores that we hired a Cincy Coach.


Also, Brian Kelly...he's been to the playoffs twice? ex-Cincy coaches are bringing it.

Yeah he’s killin it.
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Post by Banks2Mason 2019-11-18, 10:45

kingstonlake wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

Also, Brian Kelly...he's been to the playoffs twice? ex-Cincy coaches are bringing it.

Yeah he’s killin it.

lol +1
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Post by NigelUno 2019-11-18, 10:53

kingstonlake wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

Your theories and posts are stale.

I’m sorry peeling the onion made you cry.

I'm sorry exposing your theory made you cry.

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Post by Watch Out Pylon! 2019-11-18, 11:06

steveschneider wrote:What in the hell are you two saying?

It's Nigel. Just smile, nod your head, and walk away.
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Post by kingstonlake 2019-11-18, 11:07

NigelUno wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:

I’m sorry peeling the onion made you cry.

I'm sorry exposing your theory made you cry.


Kirk ferenz could do at Notre dame what Brian Kelly is doing. Kelly wins one more game a year at ND than Ferenz does at Iowa. Yeah, he’s redefining Irish football Rolling Eyes

Dantonio had a really nice run when SCum was a dumpster fire and PSU was posting 7-6 seasons with an 11-3 sprinkled in. Truth be told the landscape in the division has changed the big three are back in gear and MSU has slipped. Sorry if the truth hurts your feelings.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2019-11-18, 11:07

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Post by steveschneider 2019-11-18, 11:08

kingstonlake wrote:
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Also, Brian Kelly...he's been to the playoffs twice? ex-Cincy coaches are bringing it.

Yeah he’s killin it.

I mean he's made it to the championship game and the playoffs a total of two times. We'd take that if we were offered it on paper wouldn't we?
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2019-11-18, 11:21

Dwayne from the hit 70's TV show "What's Happening"..

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Post by steveschneider 2019-11-18, 11:26

Robert J Sakimano wrote:Dwayne from the hit 70's TV show "What's Happening"..


How about we do something woke and hire a woman?
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Post by Banks2Mason 2019-11-18, 11:28

steveschneider wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:Dwayne from the hit 70's TV show "What's Happening"..


How about we do something woke and hire a woman?

think joanne p would come back?
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Post by kingstonlake 2019-11-18, 11:29

steveschneider wrote:
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Yeah he’s killin it.

I mean he's made it to the championship game and the playoffs a total of two times. We'd take that if we were offered it on paper wouldn't we?

Yes, at ND he’s been to the playoffs twice since 2010. Pretty much what any decent coach could do at ND. But let’s not pretend he’s turned them into Bama or Clemson. He loses close to 4 games a year since 2010. (3.7 to be exact)
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Post by MiamiSpartan 2019-11-18, 11:34

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NigelUno wrote:

I'm sorry exposing your theory made you cry.


Kirk ferenz could do at Notre dame what Brian Kelly is doing. Kelly wins one more game a year at ND than Ferenz does at Iowa. Yeah, he’s redefining Irish football Rolling Eyes

Dantonio had a really nice run when SCum was a dumpster fire and PSU was posting 7-6 seasons with an 11-3 sprinkled in. Truth be told the landscape in the division has changed the big three are back in gear and MSU has slipped. Sorry if the truth hurts your feelings.
Really, dude? So now you're taking the UM line about Dantonio just being good because the B10 was down. I know you want him gone, but come on, you don't need to go full Blue.
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Post by kingstonlake 2019-11-18, 11:39

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Kirk ferenz could do at Notre dame what Brian Kelly is doing. Kelly wins one more game a year at ND than Ferenz does at Iowa. Yeah, he’s redefining Irish football Rolling Eyes

Dantonio had a really nice run when SCum was a dumpster fire and PSU was posting 7-6 seasons with an 11-3 sprinkled in.  Truth be told the landscape in the division has changed the big three are back in gear and MSU has slipped. Sorry if the truth hurts your feelings.
Really, dude?  So now you're taking the UM line about Dantonio just being good because the B10 was down.  I know you want him gone, but come on, you don't need to go full Blue.

I think he’s a good coach. Best we’ve ever had. Better than Kelly. Read what you want into when SCum and PSU being down vs when they’re not.
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Post by NigelUno 2019-11-18, 11:46

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:
steveschneider wrote:What in the hell are you two saying?

It's Nigel. Just smile, nod your head, and walk away.

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Post by NigelUno 2019-11-18, 11:47

MiamiSpartan wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:

Kirk ferenz could do at Notre dame what Brian Kelly is doing. Kelly wins one more game a year at ND than Ferenz does at Iowa. Yeah, he’s redefining Irish football Rolling Eyes

Dantonio had a really nice run when SCum was a dumpster fire and PSU was posting 7-6 seasons with an 11-3 sprinkled in. Truth be told the landscape in the division has changed the big three are back in gear and MSU has slipped. Sorry if the truth hurts your feelings.
Really, dude? So now you're taking the UM line about Dantonio just being good because the B10 was down. I know you want him gone, but come on, you don't need to go full Blue.

He's moving the goal posts.

I mean...he could just admit he forgot Dantonio came from Cincinnati.
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Post by MiamiSpartan 2019-11-18, 11:51

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Really, dude?  So now you're taking the UM line about Dantonio just being good because the B10 was down.  I know you want him gone, but come on, you don't need to go full Blue.

I think he’s a good coach. Best we’ve ever had. Better than Kelly. Read what you want into when SCum and PSU being down vs when they’re not.
I'll read the fact that OSU was at the top of their game and we beat them more under Urban than any other team did.  I'll also look at how UM's "dumpster fire" won 10+ games in 2 of the 3 seasons in which we won the division (including a trip to the CFP).
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Post by CORNER BLITZ 2019-11-18, 11:54

scum can only beat Dantonio when he's down
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Post by kingstonlake 2019-11-18, 11:56

NigelUno wrote:
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Really, dude? So now you're taking the UM line about Dantonio just being good because the B10 was down. I know you want him gone, but come on, you don't need to go full Blue.

He's moving the goal posts.

I mean...he could just admit he forgot Dantonio came from Cincinnati.

I didn’t forget. I just had the balls to say it.
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Post by kingstonlake 2019-11-18, 11:56

CORNER BLITZ wrote:scum can only beat Dantonio when he's down

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Post by NigelUno 2019-11-18, 11:57

kingstonlake wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

He's moving the goal posts.

I mean...he could just admit he forgot Dantonio came from Cincinnati.

I didn’t forget. I just had the balls to say it.

The balls to say what?

Your theory would therefore imply Dantonio was a bad hire.

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Post by kingstonlake 2019-11-18, 11:59

MiamiSpartan wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:

I think he’s a good coach. Best we’ve ever had. Better than Kelly. Read what you want into when SCum and PSU being down vs when they’re not.
I'll read the fact that OSU was at the top of their game and we beat them more under Urban than any other team did.  I'll also look at how UM's "dumpster fire" won 10+ games in 2 of the 3 seasons in which we won the division (including a trip to the CFP).

All of what you say is correct. But we both know scum beat not a single opponent that mattered.
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Post by kingstonlake 2019-11-18, 12:05

NigelUno wrote:
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I didn’t forget. I just had the balls to say it.

The balls to say what?

Your theory would therefore imply Dantonio was a bad hire.

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Yeah, I said hiring a Cincy coach was a bad hire. JFC. Rolling Eyes  You’re dumber than Arnold Jackson with Nigels Uno’s obsession with GIB.

Oh wait.
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Post by NigelUno 2019-11-18, 12:11

kingstonlake wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

The balls to say what?

Your theory would therefore imply Dantonio was a bad hire.

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Yeah, I said hiring a Cincy coach was a bad hire. JFC. Rolling Eyes  


Damn. Spinning. Moving Goal Posts. Peeling onions. You're busy today.

I'll ask again...what did you have the balls to say?

Specifically...as it relates to your theory.

Thanks in advance.



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Post by Cameron 2019-11-18, 12:11

Quit being artistic, Nigel.
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