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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That Thu 6 Feb 2020 - 11:53

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Asked an MSU source last night if the Wednesday evening rumors of Fickell to MSU was a done deal or close to it were legit or fluff. Answer: “Fluff.” As
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wrote this morning, though, the Cincy coach remains the Spartans’ top candidate to replace Mark Dantonio.


Well no shit they are going to say that. Solari sucks
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Post by steveschneider Thu 6 Feb 2020 - 11:59

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steveschneider wrote:

Asked an MSU source last night if the Wednesday evening rumors of Fickell to MSU was a done deal or close to it were legit or fluff. Answer: “Fluff.” As
@reporterdavidj
wrote this morning, though, the Cincy coach remains the Spartans’ top candidate to replace Mark Dantonio.


Well no shit they are going to say that. Solari sucks

We all want the hire to be true but have a hard time buying Solari is wrong. Don't let your personal feelings about Solari blind you from the truth.
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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That Thu 6 Feb 2020 - 12:05

steveschneider wrote:
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Well no shit they are going to say that. Solari sucks

We all want the hire to be true but have a hard time buying Solari is wrong. Don't let your personal feelings about Solari blind you from the truth.

Solari didn’t really say anything to be right or wrong about Steve. Like at all. He confirmed that rumors were rumors. Back to you in the studio, Hondo.
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Post by Cameron Thu 6 Feb 2020 - 12:07

Here's what I propose:

If WBH is wrong and Fickell is not the guy, he's banned for a week.
If WBH is right, steve is banned for a week.
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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That Thu 6 Feb 2020 - 12:10

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steveschneider wrote:

We all want the hire to be true but have a hard time buying Solari is wrong. Don't let your personal feelings about Solari blind you from the truth.

Solari didn’t really say anything to be right or wrong about Steve. Like at all. He confirmed that rumors were rumors. Back to you in the studio, Hondo.

And according to Twitter d wags is with me. Worthless!
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Post by NigelUno Thu 6 Feb 2020 - 12:16

DWags wrote:
Heat Miser wrote:At this point, if it ends up NOT being Fickell...

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Who would be the biggest villain and enemy of the people?

Beekman, Dantonio, or Fickell.

At this point, I think the perception would be that Beekman screwed it up.

Until the next new Coach rumor popped up.

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Post by NigelUno Thu 6 Feb 2020 - 12:19

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

We all want the hire to be true but have a hard time buying Solari is wrong. Don't let your personal feelings about Solari blind you from the truth.

Solari didn’t really say anything to be right or wrong about Steve. Like at all. He confirmed that rumors were rumors. Back to you in the studio, Hondo.

I would guess a standard response would be that a search firm has been hired...we're still looking at candidates...and, that it's a process. No one is going to admit Fickell has been hired this fast.
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Post by steveschneider Thu 6 Feb 2020 - 12:32

Cameron wrote:Here's what I propose:

If WBH is wrong and Fickell is not the guy, he's banned for a week.
If WBH is right, steve is banned for a week.

Let’s have a time frame. I’m not saying fickell wont be the coach and I buy into the reports from credible mainstream media reports that he is msu’s top choice. I’m calling bs that the deal was inked last night and coming out today.
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Post by Wally Fairway Thu 6 Feb 2020 - 12:33

1 post by Bob in this thread tells me this isn't official.

What are expectation for Coach Fick for the first year (and a comparison to other coaches first year)?

Coach D - 7-6
Johnelle 8-5
Booby 5-6
$aban 6-5-1
Mr Ribs 4-6-1
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yeah that's enough
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Post by steveschneider Thu 6 Feb 2020 - 12:34

I also say that anyone who is claiming Joel Ferguson is some puppet master screwing this all up behind the scenes is speculating.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Thu 6 Feb 2020 - 12:35

Wally Fairway wrote:1 post by Bob in this thread tells me this isn't official.

What are expectation for Coach Fick for the first year (and a comparison to other coaches first year)?

Coach D - 7-6
Johnelle 8-5
Booby 5-6
$aban 6-5-1
Mr Ribs 4-6-1
Waters 3-8
Stoltz 5-5-1
Duffy 3-6
Biggie 7-2
Bachman 4-2-2
yeah that's enough
thanks for your input.

I tend to not get excited until I am certain that there is something to get excited about.
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Post by NigelUno Thu 6 Feb 2020 - 12:39

steveschneider wrote:I also say that anyone who is claiming Joel Ferguson is some puppet master screwing this all up behind the scenes is speculating.

I think the only way the BoT can influence the process at this point is to slow it down a bit.

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Post by Turtleneck Thu 6 Feb 2020 - 14:18

WBH said this was happening today. Is it or is it not? I have things to do.
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Post by Turtleneck Thu 6 Feb 2020 - 14:20

DWags wrote:
Heat Miser wrote:At this point, if it ends up NOT being Fickell...

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Who would be the biggest villain and enemy of the people?

Beekman, Dantonio, or Fickell.

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Post by MiamiSpartan Thu 6 Feb 2020 - 14:26

Some Cincy reporter (I think) is saying that he's hearing that recruits are being told that Fickell is staying. Same guy also within the last hour has said that he's hearing he's going to MSU.

But before people freak out about recruits being told he's staying, keep in mind that the quickest way to notify those recruits of that, would be to tell the whole world at once. It seems that if Fickell decides to stay, it would be immediately announced, not a hush hush, quiet word to recruits.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos Thu 6 Feb 2020 - 14:30

Turtleneck wrote:WBH said this was happening today. Is it or is it not? I have things to do.

What kind of fun things are you going to be doing turtleneck
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Post by Banks2Mason Thu 6 Feb 2020 - 14:33

MiamiSpartan wrote:Some Cincy reporter (I think) is saying that he's hearing that recruits are being told that Fickell is staying. Same guy also within the last hour has said that he's hearing he's going to MSU.

But before people freak out about recruits being told he's staying, keep in mind that the quickest way to notify those recruits of that, would be to tell the whole world at once. It seems that if Fickell decides to stay, it would be immediately announced, not a hush hush, quiet word to recruits.

every minute he doesn't announce he's staying is a positive for MSU. the whole world knows MSU is interested/has offered, so if he hasn't publicly turned it down, that's pretty much a good sign for MSU.

obviously, it's possible he's using it for leverage against UC, but he still hasn't turned it down.
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Post by tGreenWay Thu 6 Feb 2020 - 14:45

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:Do we have a coach yet or no I’m confused


No, we still only have Couch.
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Post by Floyd Robertson Thu 6 Feb 2020 - 14:48

tGreenWay wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:Do we have a coach yet or no I’m confused


No, we still only have Couch.

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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher Thu 6 Feb 2020 - 15:21

Now they are saying be patient, but not worried. Comp says still work to do.
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Post by DWags Thu 6 Feb 2020 - 15:29

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Now they are saying be patient, but not worried. Comp says still work to do.

Lol hatch, what are the options? All we can do is wait. Love when Solari said, “could just be fluff, but he might be coming”. Welcome Coach Fickell - Page 3 502811600

That’s our beat writer. I’m going with Darien Harris on this one. I’ll be at my tailgate spot opening game next year. Beyond that, all we can do is read stuff.
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Post by DWags Thu 6 Feb 2020 - 15:32

Now Sports illustrated is begging Luke to stay away from MSU. Spartans vs. ever body
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Post by Turtleneck Thu 6 Feb 2020 - 15:34

Sorry WBH, but you are the worst breaking news internet message board poster mod of all time.
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Post by steveschneider Thu 6 Feb 2020 - 15:37

DWags wrote:Now Sports illustrated is begging Luke to stay away from MSU. Spartans vs. ever body

Is that just a Buckeye Blog affiliated with SI? Makes sense they'd be against it.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos Thu 6 Feb 2020 - 15:38

DWags wrote:
WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Now they are saying be patient, but not worried. Comp says still work to do.

Lol hatch, what are the options? All we can do is wait. Love when Solari said, “could just be fluff, but he might be coming”. Welcome Coach Fickell - Page 3 502811600

That’s our beat writer. I’m going with Darien Harris on this one. I’ll be at my tailgate spot opening game next year. Beyond that, all we can do is read stuff.

You could tweet Luke Fickell a picture of your nipples. Be proactive dwags. Do it. Show the coach your nipples.
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Post by Nordic Thu 6 Feb 2020 - 16:09

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steveschneider wrote:

We all want the hire to be true but have a hard time buying Solari is wrong. Don't let your personal feelings about Solari blind you from the truth.

Solari didn’t really say anything to be right or wrong about Steve. Like at all. He confirmed that rumors were rumors. Back to you in the studio, Hondo.

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Been tied up all day, we getting the Fickell or not?


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Post by Nordic Thu 6 Feb 2020 - 16:10

DWags wrote:
Heat Miser wrote:At this point, if it ends up NOT being Fickell...

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Who would be the biggest villain and enemy of the people?

Beekman, Dantonio, or Fickell.

WBH obv

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Post by Nordic Thu 6 Feb 2020 - 16:11

steveschneider wrote:
Cameron wrote:Here's what I propose:

If WBH is wrong and Fickell is not the guy, he's banned for a week.
If WBH is right, steve is banned for a week.

Let’s have a time frame. I’m not saying fickell wont be the coach and I buy into the reports from credible mainstream media reports that he is msu’s top choice. I’m calling bs that the deal was inked last night and coming out today.

Oh christ, your Bob-washed
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Post by Banks2Mason Thu 6 Feb 2020 - 16:17

steveschneider wrote:
DWags wrote:Now Sports illustrated is begging Luke to stay away from MSU. Spartans vs. ever body

Is that just a Buckeye Blog affiliated with SI? Makes sense they'd be against it.

yes it is. just like how hondo is "SI"
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Post by MiamiSpartan Thu 6 Feb 2020 - 16:18

Having to appease the BOT (and by BOT, I mean Joel) by at least pretending to look into minority candidates could be problematic. Especially when the whole world knows Fickell is our choice. "Sure, MSU, I'll be your token interview, while unsettling my current team's administration, fans, and players. Sounds fun to waste time!"

Additionally, we'd have to tell Fickell to just sit around in limbo while everyone around him asks and speculates, all so that we deal with the shit stirrer on our Board of Trustees. That'll woo him!

If we do need to go through some process like this, I really hope we have at least a handshake agreement in place.
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Post by steveschneider Thu 6 Feb 2020 - 16:38

MiamiSpartan wrote:Having to appease the BOT (and by BOT, I mean Joel) by at least pretending to look into minority candidates could be problematic. Especially when the whole world knows Fickell is our choice. "Sure, MSU, I'll be your token interview, while unsettling my current team's administration, fans, and players. Sounds fun to waste time!"

Additionally, we'd have to tell Fickell to just sit around in limbo while everyone around him asks and speculates, all so that we deal with the shit stirrer on our Board of Trustees. That'll woo him!

If we do need to go through some process like this, I really hope we have at least a handshake agreement in place.

How do you know this is happening? Do you have a link that states Ferguson is having us look into minority candidates or that the BOT needs to be appeased? Haven't seen anything regarding this.
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Post by GRR Spartan Thu 6 Feb 2020 - 16:39

Ferguson was probably livid that he was not front and center in a coaching search.

Marvin Lewis didn’t want MSU’s job more that a decade ago and used his interviews to get an NFL job.

Steam roll over Joel Ferguson. His forte has always been business dependent on Federal money and minority participation (Joel Ferguson being the minority owner)
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Post by steveschneider Thu 6 Feb 2020 - 16:45

GRR Spartan wrote:Ferguson was probably livid that he was not front and center in a coaching search.

Marvin Lewis didn’t want MSU’s job more that a decade ago and used his interviews to get an NFL job.

Steam roll over Joel Ferguson. His forte has always been business dependent on Federal money and minority participation (Joel Ferguson being the minority owner)

So this is speculation? Do we have a link? Sorry but going off these posts Ferguson sounds like some kind of boogeyman. Is there any evidence he's had any involvement in this process so far?
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Post by NigelUno Thu 6 Feb 2020 - 16:49

There might be a lot of reasons for any BoT board member or even the new President to pump the brakes on this.

Hiring Fickell the next day would have looked like a pretty rushed process.
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Post by NigelUno Thu 6 Feb 2020 - 16:50

steveschneider wrote:
GRR Spartan wrote:Ferguson was probably livid that he was not front and center in a coaching search.

Marvin Lewis didn’t want MSU’s job more that a decade ago and used his interviews to get an NFL job.

Steam roll over Joel Ferguson. His forte has always been business dependent on Federal money and minority participation (Joel Ferguson being the minority owner)

So this is speculation? Do we have a link? Sorry but going off these posts Ferguson sounds like some kind of boogeyman. Is there any evidence he's had any involvement in this process so far?

I think we're all speculating at this point. If some BoT member was talking to reporters about it, that would be a bigger problem.
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Post by kingstonlake Thu 6 Feb 2020 - 16:55

I heard the only holdup was Fickells insistence on turning Rocky into a TE and banning the short side jet sweep. BOT is now wavering on such a radical change in philosophy. Can’t reveal my source. But he’s currently up on Tum Tum 12-4 in a pick up game.


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Post by steveschneider Thu 6 Feb 2020 - 16:56

kingstonlake wrote:I heard the only holdup was Fickells insistence on turning Rocky into a TE and banning the short side jet sweep. Can’t reveal my source. TBOT is having second thoughts now. But he’s currently up on Tum Tum 12-4 in a pick up game.

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Post by NigelUno Thu 6 Feb 2020 - 16:56

Beekman is familiar with the BoT and how it works.

I would guess Beekman wants everyone to sign off on the hire with unanimous consent before Fickell's hired and the BoT formally approves.

Maybe one (or more) are pumping the brakes on it...waiting for him to be vetted...waiting to talk to each other...who knows...it's all speculation.
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Post by DWags Thu 6 Feb 2020 - 16:57

kingstonlake wrote:I heard the only holdup was Fickells insistence on turning Rocky into a TE and banning the short side jet sweep. BOT is now wavering on such a radical change in philosophy. Can’t reveal my source. But he’s currently up on Tum Tum 12-4 in a pick up game.

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Is he willing to take OTPT on in a pick up.
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Post by steveschneider Thu 6 Feb 2020 - 17:08

NigelUno wrote:Beekman is familiar with the BoT and how it works.

I would guess Beekman wants everyone to sign off on the hire with unanimous consent before Fickell's hired and the BoT formally approves.

Maybe one (or more) are pumping the brakes on it...waiting for him to be vetted...waiting to talk to each other...who knows...it's all speculation.

That's reasonable, these takes on Ferguson just seem paranoid and a little far fetched. Not saying Ferguson hasn't done fucked up shit in the past but usually the fucked up shit he's done in the past has been reported in the papers.
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