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Post by steveschneider Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:18 am

2007 vs 2020 I'd argue JLS left Dantonio with a much better OL. Is that fair?
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Post by Nordic Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:28 am

steveschneider wrote:2007 vs 2020 I'd argue JLS left Dantonio with a much better OL. Is that fair?

I couldn't name a OL starter from 2007. Help me out.

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Post by Turtleneck Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:29 am

Please get back to infighting. That was a lot more fun than this actual conversation shit.
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Post by Turtleneck Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:32 am

CORNER BLITZ wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:

As usual, Pylon emerges as the poster who is most opposed to truth and facts. Pyloning is when people act like Alex Jones on a Michigan State sports Internet message board.



edit: entire thing is great but right around 1:40 cracks me up everytime


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Post by Nordic Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:47 am

If you are going by crootin', I would say no. 2019 was pretty good OL recruiting class on paper. Theoretically that sets up pretty well in 2021+. Injuries (Roland Martin, Campbell, etc.), attrition, long term development and scheme all play a bigger factor in the OL. There is also probably some variance in ratings from 15 years apart, but on paper Dantiono left more talent than JLS at OL.

2019 Devontae Dobbs .9747
2019 Spencer Brown .8795
2019 Nick Samac .8795
2019 J.D. Duplain .8639
2019 Damon Kaylor .8480
2018 James Ohonba .8804
2018 Dimitri Douglas .8698
2018 Jacob Isaia .8559
2017 Jarvis .9149
2017 Jordan Reid .8856
2017 Matt Carrick .8509
2017 Mustafa Khaleefah .8503
2016 Thiyo Lukusa .8503
2016 Luke Campbell .8537
2016 AJ Acuri .8409
2016 Matthew Allen .8376

2006 Jason Diehl .90
2005 Rocco Cironi .833
2005 Brendon Moss .833
2005 Kenny Shane ..833
2005 Mike Schmeding .7667
2004 Jesse Miller .7889
2004 Luis Fonseca .7889
2004 Roland Martin 0.9841
2003 Mike Gyetvai .80
2003 John Masters .7667
2003 Joe Toth .7667
2003 Pete Clifford.7667
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Post by tGreenWay Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:55 am

Turtleneck wrote:Please get back to infighting. That was a lot more fun than this actual conversation shit.



Foreign all the way.
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Post by kingstonlake Wed Oct 28, 2020 11:00 am

Nordic wrote:If you are going by crootin', I would say no. 2019 was pretty good OL recruiting class on paper. Theoretically that sets up pretty well in 2021+. Injuries (Roland Martin, Campbell, etc.), attrition, long term development and scheme all play a bigger factor in the OL. There is also probably some variance in ratings from 15 years apart, but on paper Dantiono left more talent than JLS at OL.

2019 Devontae Dobbs .9747
2019 Spencer Brown .8795
2019 Nick Samac .8795
2019 J.D. Duplain .8639
2019 Damon Kaylor .8480
2018 James Ohonba .8804
2018 Dimitri Douglas .8698
2018 Jacob Isaia .8559
2017 Jarvis .9149
2017 Jordan Reid .8856
2017 Matt Carrick .8509
2017 Mustafa Khaleefah .8503
2016 Thiyo Lukusa .8503
2016 Luke Campbell .8537
2016 AJ Acuri .8409
2016 Matthew Allen .8376

2006 Jason Diehl .90
2005 Rocco Cironi .833
2005 Brendon Moss .833
2005 Kenny Shane ..833
2005 Mike Schmeding .7667
2004 Jesse Miller .7889
2004 Luis Fonseca .7889
2004 Roland Martin 0.9841
2003 Mike Gyetvai .80
2003 John Masters .7667
2003 Joe Toth .7667
2003 Pete Clifford.7667

On paper we should be able to run the ball.

On the field.....
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Post by Turtleneck Wed Oct 28, 2020 11:04 am

tGreenWay wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:Please get back to infighting. That was a lot more fun than this actual conversation shit.



Foreign all the way.

Typical elitist. Wants to put Americans out of work. No respect for this country.
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Post by Nordic Wed Oct 28, 2020 11:39 am

kingstonlake wrote:
Nordic wrote:If you are going by crootin', I would say no. 2019 was pretty good OL recruiting class on paper. Theoretically that sets up pretty well in 2021+. Injuries (Roland Martin, Campbell, etc.), attrition, long term development and scheme all play a bigger factor in the OL. There is also probably some variance in ratings from 15 years apart, but on paper Dantiono left more talent than JLS at OL.

2019 Devontae Dobbs .9747
2019 Spencer Brown .8795
2019 Nick Samac .8795
2019 J.D. Duplain .8639
2019 Damon Kaylor .8480
2018 James Ohonba .8804
2018 Dimitri Douglas .8698
2018 Jacob Isaia .8559
2017 Jarvis .9149
2017 Jordan Reid .8856
2017 Matt Carrick .8509
2017 Mustafa Khaleefah .8503
2016 Thiyo Lukusa .8503
2016 Luke Campbell .8537
2016 AJ Acuri .8409
2016 Matthew Allen .8376

2006 Jason Diehl .90
2005 Rocco Cironi .833
2005 Brendon Moss .833
2005 Kenny Shane ..833
2005 Mike Schmeding .7667
2004 Jesse Miller .7889
2004 Luis Fonseca .7889
2004 Roland Martin 0.9841
2003 Mike Gyetvai .80
2003 John Masters .7667
2003 Joe Toth .7667
2003 Pete Clifford.7667

On paper we should be able to run the ball.

On the field.....

Shit show. Probably the single most perplexing issue we've had the last 2-3 years.

If I'm a new HC I'm taking the 2018/19 classes over all else. A lot more to work with. This is year is a wash.
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Post by tGreenWay Wed Oct 28, 2020 11:43 am

Turtleneck wrote:
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Foreign all the way.

Typical elitist. Wants to put Americans out of work. No respect for this country.



Families in Georgetown, KY disagree. I suppose you in your ivory tower in New York don’t consider southerners real Americans.
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Post by steveschneider Wed Oct 28, 2020 6:05 pm

Just in general I would take 2007 over 2020. This has been a rough year, a rough year I tell you.
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