Re: tOfficial 2021/2022 MSU Basketball Thread

by **Turtleneck** Tue May 24, 2022 10:34 pm

I don't envy the internal conflict Steve will feel on this day.

Michigan State will face Kentucky in the 2022 Champions Classic on Nov. 15
https://www.theonlycolors.com/2022/5/24/23139915/michigan-state-spartans-will-face-kentucky-wildcats-in-the-2022-champions-classic-on-nov-15

by **Death Roe** Wed May 25, 2022 9:17 pm

I have a scalding hot take...

This is going to be Izzo's last season.

by **duffy munn** Wed May 25, 2022 9:55 pm

Death Roe wrote:I have a scalding hot take...

This is going to be Izzo's last season.

I agree. This year or next.

by **tGreenWay** Wed May 25, 2022 11:15 pm

Death Roe wrote:I have a scalding hot take...

This is going to be Izzo's last season.

I’d hoped he’d stay until 30 years, but coach seems fed up with all the changes in the game.

by Pervis Muldoon Wed May 25, 2022 11:52 pm

I think Izzo has plenty left in the tank and will stay for several more years. No matter what changes are made, he's always asking what's best for the players. That seems to be his biggest concern. And as long as he thinks that he has something to offer the players, he'll probably still be coaching.

by **Turtleneck** Thu May 26, 2022 12:26 am

I think his last year will be sometime in the future.

by **NigelUno** Thu May 26, 2022 8:02 am

Pervis Muldoon wrote:I think Izzo has plenty left in the tank and will stay for several more years. No matter what changes are made, he's always asking what's best for the players. That seems to be his biggest concern. And as long as he thinks that he has something to offer the players, he'll probably still be coaching.

He loves coaching and competing.

by **duffy munn** Thu May 26, 2022 8:16 am

NigelUno wrote:
Pervis Muldoon wrote:I think Izzo has plenty left in the tank and will stay for several more years. No matter what changes are made, he's always asking what's best for the players. That seems to be his biggest concern. And as long as he thinks that he has something to offer the players, he'll probably still be coaching.

He loves coaching and competing.

Yep. Too bad he has to deal with all of the other bullshit before he can actually coach. 2 more years, max.

by **Trapper Gus** Thu May 26, 2022 8:31 am

duffy munn wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

He loves coaching and competing.

Yep. Too bad he has to deal with all of the other bullshit before he can actually coach. 2 more years, max.

Seems to me that "all the other bullshit" has always been a big part of the job, and he loves it. His non-stop recruiting used to be remarked upon every year. He doesn't like where NIL and the portal are taking the "kids" so there is that.

by **duffy munn** Thu May 26, 2022 8:48 am

Trapper Gus wrote:
duffy munn wrote:

Yep. Too bad he has to deal with all of the other bullshit before he can actually coach. 2 more years, max.

Seems to me that "all the other bullshit" has always been a big part of the job, and he loves it. His non-stop recruiting used to be remarked upon every year. He doesn't like where NIL and the portal are taking the "kids" so there is that.

The landscape has changed dramatically. Coaches now have to recruit their own players. And hope boosters come up with good NIL deals.

I think Izzo loves coaching most. Now it's about the third thing he has to worry about.

by **NigelUno** Thu May 26, 2022 8:54 am

duffy munn wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

He loves coaching and competing.

Yep. Too bad he has to deal with all of the other bullshit before he can actually coach. 2 more years, max.

I don't see him quitting because it gets tough (or tougher). That goes against his whole ethos.

But, if high school players start getting $1 million NIL deals (and free agency with $ inducements becomes more commonplace), that might be the straw....

by **Trapper Gus** Thu May 26, 2022 8:55 am

duffy munn wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

Seems to me that "all the other bullshit" has always been a big part of the job, and he loves it. His non-stop recruiting used to be remarked upon every year. He doesn't like where NIL and the portal are taking the "kids" so there is that.

The landscape has changed dramatically. Coaches now have to recruit their own players. And hope boosters come up with good NIL deals.

I think Izzo loves coaching most. Now it's about the third thing he has to worry about.

Has he found a new assistant coach, yet?

by **NigelUno** Thu May 26, 2022 9:08 am

Trapper Gus wrote:
duffy munn wrote:

The landscape has changed dramatically. Coaches now have to recruit their own players. And hope boosters come up with good NIL deals.

I think Izzo loves coaching most. Now it's about the third thing he has to worry about.

Has he found a new assistant coach, yet?

I would guess so. Probably have to go through with the formality of posting the job and waiting.

by **duffy munn** Thu May 26, 2022 9:12 am

Trapper Gus wrote:
duffy munn wrote:

The landscape has changed dramatically. Coaches now have to recruit their own players. And hope boosters come up with good NIL deals.

I think Izzo loves coaching most. Now it's about the third thing he has to worry about.

Has he found a new assistant coach, yet?

Izzo said the other day that the new coach will be named by this weekend. He said it was down to 3 guys in the "Spartan family". My guess is Maurice Joseph will get the job but will not be the top assistant/associate head coach. Wojik or Monty will be moved up. The deck chairs on the titanic crowd will be out in full force.

by **NigelUno** Thu May 26, 2022 9:28 am

duffy munn wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

Has he found a new assistant coach, yet?

Izzo said the other day that the new coach will be named by this weekend. He said it was down to 3 guys in the "Spartan family". My guess is Maurice Joseph will get the job but will not be the top assistant/associate head coach. Wojik or Monty will be moved up. The deck chairs on the titanic crowd will be out in full force.

All 3 long time "official" assistants (Fife, Garland, and Stephens) are now no longer in those roles. Maybe Sheed is available.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** Thu May 26, 2022 9:48 am

Keeping it in the family = Michigan man?

by **Turtleneck** Thu May 26, 2022 11:10 am

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Keeping it in the family = Michigan man?

It's his cousin Bill from Kingsford. #UPPower #FlivversMafia

by **kingstonlake** Thu May 26, 2022 11:41 am

It seems like we have a really nice pro active booster base. Willing to go to extraordinary lengths to be big time. Seems like Izzo would love that?

by **tGreenWay** Thu May 26, 2022 2:49 pm

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Keeping it in the family = Michigan man?

Not there yet, but it’s something of which to be mindful.
It also was just TI commenting about this hire, unlike some full-throated declaration from an overrated, gasbag, arrogant ass from down the road.

by **NigelUno** Thu May 26, 2022 3:39 pm

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Keeping it in the family = Michigan man?

by **Death Roe** Thu May 26, 2022 6:22 pm

Pervis Muldoon wrote:I think Izzo has plenty left in the tank and will stay for several more years. No matter what changes are made, he's always asking what's best for the players. That seems to be his biggest concern. And as long as he thinks that he has something to offer the players, he'll probably still be coaching.

If he won't adapt to the new landscape, step aside and let a younger Spartan lead this team.

I wouldn't be surprised if he goes out like Roy and Jay did. He's way too humble to leave like Coach K did.

by **Trapper Gus** Thu May 26, 2022 7:11 pm

Death Roe wrote:
Pervis Muldoon wrote:I think Izzo has plenty left in the tank and will stay for several more years. No matter what changes are made, he's always asking what's best for the players. That seems to be his biggest concern. And as long as he thinks that he has something to offer the players, he'll probably still be coaching.

If he won't adapt to the new landscape, step aside and let a younger Spartan lead this team.

I wouldn't be surprised if he goes out like Roy and Jay did. He's way too humble to leave like Coach K did.

The WOTS, from Izzo a few weeks ago, is that he wanted someone who would be active in recruiting the portal and dealing with NIL issues. Of course he may have changed his mind.

by **Nordic** Thu May 26, 2022 8:21 pm

kingstonlake wrote:It seems like we have a really nice pro active booster base. Willing to go to extraordinary lengths to be big time. Seems like Izzo would love that?

Fine. I'll take the job.

by **NigelUno** Tue May 31, 2022 8:46 am

Death Roe wrote:
Pervis Muldoon wrote:I think Izzo has plenty left in the tank and will stay for several more years. No matter what changes are made, he's always asking what's best for the players. That seems to be his biggest concern. And as long as he thinks that he has something to offer the players, he'll probably still be coaching.

If he won't adapt to the new landscape, step aside and let a younger Spartan lead this team.

I wouldn't be surprised if he goes out like Roy and Jay did. He's way too humble to leave like Coach K did.

He added Tyson Walker just last year, unless you're referring to going all Texas A&M and buying players.

No one wants to win more than him. I think we might be underestimating his current group of players. No doubt some of them are going to have to step up.

by Pervis Muldoon Tue May 31, 2022 10:22 am

Death Roe wrote:
Pervis Muldoon wrote:I think Izzo has plenty left in the tank and will stay for several more years. No matter what changes are made, he's always asking what's best for the players. That seems to be his biggest concern. And as long as he thinks that he has something to offer the players, he'll probably still be coaching.

If he won't adapt to the new landscape, step aside and let a younger Spartan lead this team.

I wouldn't be surprised if he goes out like Roy and Jay did. He's way too humble to leave like Coach K did.

Do you really not think Izzo adapts, or is that just a generic thing to say about an old coach? I used to see complaints about his "20-year-old sets" on the RCMB, and then there'd be a quote from a young coach like Chris Collins about how Izzo's teams are the most difficult to prepare for. I'd see complaints about how he yells too much, then watch him nurture Joey Hauser through a bad slump to becoming a knockdown shooter.

Izzo doesn't just know what it takes to win; he knows what it takes to win at MSU. He's built and maintained elite status without being a blue blood. That's not an easy achievement, and is not likely to be replicated by his successor. I want to keep him as long as he wants to coach.

by **duffy munn** Tue May 31, 2022 10:51 am

Pervis Muldoon wrote:
Death Roe wrote:

If he won't adapt to the new landscape, step aside and let a younger Spartan lead this team.

I wouldn't be surprised if he goes out like Roy and Jay did. He's way too humble to leave like Coach K did.

Do you really not think Izzo adapts, or is that just a generic thing to say about an old coach? I used to see complaints about his "20-year-old sets" on the RCMB, and then there'd be a quote from a young coach like Chris Collins about how Izzo's teams are the most difficult to prepare for. I'd see complaints about how he yells too much, then watch him nurture Joey Hauser through a bad slump to becoming a knockdown shooter.

Izzo doesn't just know what it takes to win; he knows what it takes to win at MSU. He's built and maintained elite status without being a blue blood. That's not an easy achievement, and is not likely to be replicated by his successor. I want to keep him as long as he wants to coach.

Quite the meltdown going on over there right now. Including my favorite moronic takes that Izzo isn't trying and doesn't care.

by **Floyd Robertson** Tue May 31, 2022 10:56 am

duffy munn wrote:
Pervis Muldoon wrote:

Do you really not think Izzo adapts, or is that just a generic thing to say about an old coach? I used to see complaints about his "20-year-old sets" on the RCMB, and then there'd be a quote from a young coach like Chris Collins about how Izzo's teams are the most difficult to prepare for. I'd see complaints about how he yells too much, then watch him nurture Joey Hauser through a bad slump to becoming a knockdown shooter.

Izzo doesn't just know what it takes to win; he knows what it takes to win at MSU. He's built and maintained elite status without being a blue blood. That's not an easy achievement, and is not likely to be replicated by his successor. I want to keep him as long as he wants to coach.

Quite the meltdown going on over there right now. Including my favorite moronic takes that Izzo isn't trying and doesn't care.

I hate how Izzo doesn't care. Like taking half his money and donating it to a new football building. Some nerve.

by **NigelUno** Tue May 31, 2022 11:17 am

duffy munn wrote:
Pervis Muldoon wrote:

Do you really not think Izzo adapts, or is that just a generic thing to say about an old coach? I used to see complaints about his "20-year-old sets" on the RCMB, and then there'd be a quote from a young coach like Chris Collins about how Izzo's teams are the most difficult to prepare for. I'd see complaints about how he yells too much, then watch him nurture Joey Hauser through a bad slump to becoming a knockdown shooter.

Izzo doesn't just know what it takes to win; he knows what it takes to win at MSU. He's built and maintained elite status without being a blue blood. That's not an easy achievement, and is not likely to be replicated by his successor. I want to keep him as long as he wants to coach.

Quite the meltdown going on over there right now. Including my favorite moronic takes that Izzo isn't trying and doesn't care.

Not sure I can let that injustice stand.

by **DWags** Tue May 31, 2022 12:37 pm

Pervis Muldoon wrote:
Death Roe wrote:

If he won't adapt to the new landscape, step aside and let a younger Spartan lead this team.

I wouldn't be surprised if he goes out like Roy and Jay did. He's way too humble to leave like Coach K did.

Do you really not think Izzo adapts, or is that just a generic thing to say about an old coach? I used to see complaints about his "20-year-old sets" on the RCMB, and then there'd be a quote from a young coach like Chris Collins about how Izzo's teams are the most difficult to prepare for. I'd see complaints about how he yells too much, then watch him nurture Joey Hauser through a bad slump to becoming a knockdown shooter.

Izzo doesn't just know what it takes to win; he knows what it takes to win at MSU. He's built and maintained elite status without being a blue blood. That's not an easy achievement, and is not likely to be replicated by his successor. I want to keep him as long as he wants to coach.

This is gold. But try to go say it on the other board, hell that one mod might even Ban you

by AvgMSUJoe Tue May 31, 2022 7:40 pm

Them muthafuckers need an attitude adjustment? Don't make me reset my password....
dumb fucking children.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** Wed Jun 01, 2022 8:24 pm

i hope izzo is able to turn it around.

by **Turtleneck** Fri Jun 03, 2022 1:44 pm

I hope he is at his post on April 21st.

[tw]1532753596462268416?s=20&t=g32jI5yaHax6zljOGtf5tw[/tw]

by **NigelUno** Fri Jun 03, 2022 2:53 pm

Turtleneck wrote:I hope he is at his post on April 21st.

[tw]1532753596462268416?s=20&t=g32jI5yaHax6zljOGtf5tw[/tw]

Out
Fife
Garland*
Stephens

In
Wojcik
Montgomery
Kelley

by **Turtleneck** Fri Jun 03, 2022 3:24 pm

On???

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** Fri Jun 03, 2022 6:48 pm

exciting news.

by **duffy munn** Fri Jun 03, 2022 7:15 pm

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:exciting news.

Tum Tum was a finalist if that makes you feel any better OTPT

by **duffy munn** Fri Jun 03, 2022 7:16 pm

NigelUno wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:I hope he is at his post on April 21st.

[tw]1532753596462268416?s=20&t=g32jI5yaHax6zljOGtf5tw[/tw]

Out
Fife
Garland*
Stephens

In
Wojcik
Montgomery
Kelley

So does Wojik or Monty get first chair?

by AvgMSUJoe Fri Jun 03, 2022 9:01 pm

I hated Kelly as a player. But his side piece was my sister's buddy.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** Sat Jun 04, 2022 2:28 pm

duffy munn wrote:
Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:exciting news.

Tum Tum was a finalist if that makes you feel any better OTPT

Sounds like Tom went into the search unbiased and found the best qualified candidate.

by **duffy munn** Sat Jun 04, 2022 6:02 pm

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:
duffy munn wrote:

Tum Tum was a finalist if that makes you feel any better OTPT

Sounds like Tom went into the search unbiased and found the best qualified candidate.

I'm sure he talked to a number of guys with no connection to the program. As for TK, he's more than qualified to sit in the 3rd chair. Unless of course you had a better candidate picked out.

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