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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2021-11-10, 07:53

if we win out, it doesn't matter. However, it might matter if we lose only to Ohio State, for instance, and the debate is about who gets to go to Pasadena.

Purely theoretical at this point (as is everything), but would the committee send a two loss MSU team with losses to Purdue and Ohio State or a two loss scUM team with losses to MSU and Ohio State?

that's where I'm afraid this could matter.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos 2021-11-10, 07:57

Robert J Sakimano wrote:if we win out, it doesn't matter. However, it might matter if we lose only to Ohio State, for instance, and the debate is about who gets to go to Pasadena.

Purely theoretical at this point (as is everything), but would the committee send a two loss MSU team with losses to Purdue and Ohio State or a two loss scUM team with losses to MSU and Ohio State?

that's where I'm afraid this could matter.

They’d send Michigan. I don’t think that’s up for debate tbh
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Post by NigelUno 2021-11-10, 08:13

Floyd Robertson wrote:The committee says "this is a TV show and we need ratings".

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I think it was Herbie who kind of alluded to that. He said something when they put the 7 team graphic up there...like there had to be controversy or something.
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Post by NigelUno 2021-11-10, 08:16

Robert J Sakimano wrote:if we win out, it doesn't matter. However, it might matter if we lose only to Ohio State, for instance, and the debate is about who gets to go to Pasadena.

Purely theoretical at this point (as is everything), but would the committee send a two loss MSU team with losses to Purdue and Ohio State or a two loss scUM team with losses to MSU and Ohio State?

that's where I'm afraid this could matter.

Not sure both teams will beat Penn State.
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Post by NigelUno 2021-11-10, 14:08

Finebaum roasts the committee.

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Post by AvgMSUJoe 2021-11-10, 14:52

NigelUno wrote:
Floyd Robertson wrote:The committee says "this is a TV show and we need ratings".

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I think it was Herbie who kind of alluded to that. He said something when they put the 7 team graphic up there...like there had to be controversy or something.

This is just espn creating their own content.

Probably the one of the biggest arguments against expanding is for sports talk... they wouldn't have the drama if 12 or 16 got in. (of course they would generate something else) With, of course, the bowl committees and athletic directors not getting free golf junkets all over the country.
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Post by Floyd Robertson 2021-11-10, 18:09

l o l

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Post by AvgMSUJoe 2021-11-10, 19:11

Floyd Robertson wrote:l o l

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Betcha that guy voted for Trump
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Post by Turtleneck 2021-11-16, 20:16

Just a friendly reminder that college football is governed by corrupt assholes. I don't care about placement, and it will sort itself out, but if you're going to talk about comparing UM and MSU, it was already answered on the field. It's all about the tOFFICIAL CFP Rankings Thread  - Page 3 200.gif?cid=ddb306a5tpxk5hs9w1k7rxvirt3ryhllad798h7hc6g814qh&rid=200

CFP chair: Michigan 'a more complete team' than Michigan State
https://www.si.com/college/michiganstate/football/michigan-state-spartans-football-gary-barta-cfp-rankings-wolverines-111621

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Post by TrapperGus 2021-11-16, 21:04

NigelUno wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:if we win out, it doesn't matter. However, it might matter if we lose only to Ohio State, for instance, and the debate is about who gets to go to Pasadena.

Purely theoretical at this point (as is everything), but would the committee send a two loss MSU team with losses to Purdue and Ohio State or a two loss scUM team with losses to MSU and Ohio State?

that's where I'm afraid this could matter.

Not sure both teams will beat Penn State.

Well the refs gifted Michigan in that game.

The PSU/MSU game will have refs trying to gift Michigan an MSU loss.
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Post by Nordic 2021-11-16, 21:20

Turtleneck wrote:Just a friendly reminder that college football is governed by corrupt assholes. I don't care about placement, and it will sort itself out, but if you're going to talk about comparing UM and MSU, it was already answered on the field. It's all about the tOFFICIAL CFP Rankings Thread  - Page 3 200.gif?cid=ddb306a5tpxk5hs9w1k7rxvirt3ryhllad798h7hc6g814qh&rid=200

CFP chair: Michigan 'a more complete team' than Michigan State
https://www.si.com/college/michiganstate/football/michigan-state-spartans-football-gary-barta-cfp-rankings-wolverines-111621


Happened to flip it on right when this dude was speaking. It was actually worse live. They did interview Tuck right after, so that was cool.
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Post by aualum06 2021-11-16, 21:27

Committee has to go. Conference champs only playoff
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Post by TrapperGus 2021-11-16, 21:43

aualum06 wrote:Committee has to go. Conference champs only playoff

Either the teams' on the field wins and losses count, or it is a "popularity" contest.

If the latter just do an on line poll to decide who is in.
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Post by Turtleneck 2021-11-17, 00:32

College Football Media Mocks CFP Chairman for His Michigan-Michigan State Quote

https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2021/11/17/college-football-media-mocks-gary-barta-cfp-rankings-michigan-over-michigan-state

Gary Barta ripped on social media for baffling quote during CFP rankings show

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Post by Turtleneck 2021-11-17, 00:36

Maybe one of the metrics is the number of times a program has gathered players and coaches to hold hands and sing Josh Groban songs. UM dominates MSU in that category.
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Post by steveschneider 2021-11-17, 05:38

TrapperGus wrote:
aualum06 wrote:Committee has to go. Conference champs only playoff

Either the teams' on the field wins and losses count, or it is a "popularity" contest.

If the latter just do an on line poll to decide who is in.

A big part of the formula is tv ratings and revenue.
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Post by NigelUno 2021-11-17, 08:06

I think part of it was they were possibly setting a precedent for later...to have another team (ND/OSU) jump a team they lost to (Cincy/Oregon), or to let a team in (on a statistical basis of sorts) that might have 2 losses (Alabama).  

It was dumb why they did it no matter what the reasoning was.

Beat OSU.
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Post by TrapperGus 2021-11-17, 09:17

steveschneider wrote:
TrapperGus wrote:

Either the teams' on the field wins and losses count, or it is a "popularity" contest.

If the latter just do an on line poll to decide who is in.

A big part of the formula is tv ratings and revenue.

Hmmm

MSU v Purdue had higher TV ratings than Michigan v Indiana.

Try again.
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Post by steveschneider 2021-11-17, 09:59

TrapperGus wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

A big part of the formula is tv ratings and revenue.

Hmmm

MSU v Purdue had higher TV ratings than Michigan v Indiana.

Try again.

Probably had a bunch of Michigan fans tuning in to hate watch. Also, upset alert factor.
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Post by Turtleneck 2021-11-17, 10:29

It can't be about ratings or Syracuse would be in the top 4. Everybody knows CNY is a ratings goldmine.
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Post by NigelUno 2021-11-17, 10:35

Turtleneck wrote:It can't be about ratings or Syracuse would be in the top 4. Everybody knows CNY is a ratings goldmine.

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Post by TrapperGus 2021-11-17, 18:01

Turtleneck wrote:It can't be about ratings or Syracuse would be in the top 4. Everybody knows CNY is a ratings goldmine.

Well, it isn't about on the field performance or ratings ...

It seems to be that the committee has its favorites.
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Post by steveschneider 2021-11-17, 18:29

Turtleneck wrote:It can't be about ratings or Syracuse would be in the top 4. Everybody knows CNY is a ratings goldmine.

Syracuse is a basketball school not a football school.
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Post by Turtleneck 2021-11-17, 18:35

It used to be both, Steve. Did you start watching sports in 2000? If you’ve ever attended a basketball game at the Carrier Dome, you would see they value the football experience over basketball. It’s a terrible place to see a basketball game but fine for football.
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Post by steveschneider 2021-11-17, 18:51

Turtleneck wrote:It used to be both, Steve. Did you start watching sports in 2000? If you’ve ever attended a basketball game at the Carrier Dome, you would see they value the football experience over basketball. It’s a terrible place to see a basketball game but fine for football.

They’ve finished in the top 20 two times in the twenty first century. Their peak ranking was 14 and the other was 15. Ouch.
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Post by NigelUno 2021-11-17, 18:53

Turtleneck wrote:It used to be both, Steve. Did you start watching sports in 2000? If you’ve ever attended a basketball game at the Carrier Dome, you would see they value the football experience over basketball. It’s a terrible place to see a basketball game but fine for football.

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Post by steveschneider 2021-11-17, 18:58

NigelUno wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:It used to be both, Steve. Did you start watching sports in 2000? If you’ve ever attended a basketball game at the Carrier Dome, you would see they value the football experience over basketball. It’s a terrible place to see a basketball game but fine for football.

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Post by Turtleneck 2021-11-17, 19:23

steveschneider wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:It used to be both, Steve. Did you start watching sports in 2000? If you’ve ever attended a basketball game at the Carrier Dome, you would see they value the football experience over basketball. It’s a terrible place to see a basketball game but fine for football.

They’ve finished in the top 20 two times in the twenty first century. Their peak ranking was 14 and the other was 15. Ouch.

Exactly, but from the mid-80s through the very early 2000s, they didn't have a losing season. In that time span, they had multiple 10 win seasons and even an undefeated season in there somewhere. Here is a wonderful Carrier Dome sightline for a basketball game. They really need a separate basketball arena, but it won't happen because they can pack people into the endzone of the Carrier Dome and seat people in temporary bleachers that might as well be in fucking Baldwinsville.

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Post by steveschneider 2021-11-17, 19:26

Turtleneck wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

They’ve finished in the top 20 two times in the twenty first century. Their peak ranking was 14 and the other was 15. Ouch.

Exactly, but from the mid-80s through the very early 2000s, they didn't have a losing season. In that time span, they had multiple 10 win seasons and even an undefeated season in there somewhere. Here is a wonderful Carrier Dome sightline for a basketball game. They really need a separate basketball arena, but it won't happen because they can pack people into the endzone of the Carrier Dome and seat people in temporary bleachers that might as well be in fucking Baldwinsville.

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Syracuse’s first season they went 0-1.
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Post by Turtleneck 2021-11-17, 19:47

Who did they lose to? Cornell? Rochester? A high school? I really hope it was Rochester.
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Post by NigelUno 2021-11-17, 20:05

Yeah.  I mean the Big East was always known as a football conference.

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Post by NigelUno 2021-11-23, 19:54

Would be nice if all the bolded teams lost this week.

1. Georgia (11-0)
2. Ohio State (10-1)
3. Alabama (10-1)
4. Cincinnati (11-0)
5. Michigan (10-1)
6. Notre Dame (10-1) (@ Stanford)
7. Oklahoma State (10-1)
8. Baylor (9-2) (vs. Texas Tech)
9. Ole Miss (9-2) (@ Miss State)
10. Oklahoma (10-1) (@ OK State)
11. Oregon (9-2) (vs. Oregon St)
12. Michigan State (9-2)
13. BYU (9-2)
14. Wisconsin (8-3)
15. Texas A&M (8-3)
16. Iowa (9-2)
17. Pittsburgh (9-2)
18. Wake Forest (9-2)
19. Utah (8-3)
20. NC State (8-3)
21. San Diego State (10-1)
22. UTSA (11-0)
23. Clemson (8-3)
24. Houston (10-1)
25. Arkansas (7-4)


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Post by DWags 2021-11-24, 04:58

NigelUno wrote:Would be nice if all the bolded teams lost this week.

1. Georgia (11-0)
2. Ohio State (10-1)
3. Alabama (10-1)
4. Cincinnati (11-0)
5. Michigan (10-1)
6. Notre Dame (10-1)
7. Oklahoma State (10-1)
8. Baylor (9-2)
9. Ole Miss (9-2)
10. Oklahoma (10-1)
11. Oregon (9-2)
12. Michigan State (9-2)
13. BYU (9-2)
14. Wisconsin (8-3)
15. Texas A&M (8-3)
16. Iowa (9-2)
17. Pittsburgh (9-2)
18. Wake Forest (9-2)
19. Utah (8-3)
20. NC State (8-3)
21. San Diego State (10-1)
22. UTSA (11-0)
23. Clemson (8-3)
24. Houston (10-1)
25. Arkansas (7-4)

Fair.
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