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Post by Trapper Gus Sat 7 May 2022 - 8:14

How The Wealthy Trick Conservative Voters wrote:Polling shows that since the 1950s Americans’ trust in government has fallen dramatically to historically low levels. In At War with Government, the political scientists Amy Fried and Douglas B. Harris reveal that this trend is no accident. Although distrust of authority is deeply rooted in American culture, it is fueled by conservative elites who benefit from it. Since the postwar era conservative leaders have deliberately and strategically undermined faith in the political system for partisan aims.

Fried and Harris detail how conservatives have sown distrust to build organizations, win elections, shift power toward institutions that they control, and secure policy victories. They trace this strategy from the Nixon and Reagan years through Gingrich’s Contract with America, the Tea Party, and Donald Trump’s rise and presidency. Conservatives have promoted a political identity opposed to domestic state action, used racial messages to undermine unity, and cultivated cynicism to build and bolster coalitions. Once in power, they have defunded public services unless they help their constituencies and rolled back regulations, perversely proving the failure of government.

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Do you think the (you) Conservatives are this gullible?

For I certainly do.
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Post by Motown Spartan Sat 7 May 2022 - 8:32

Create chaos.

Present solutions to problems that don't exit.

Get elected.


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Post by NumbersDude Sat 7 May 2022 - 8:50

More government = more regulation= less freedom= more taxes.

The decline in American industrial production has a direct correlation to the grown of government and regulation.
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Post by RQA Sat 7 May 2022 - 9:14

Trapper Gus wrote:

Do you think the (you) Conservatives are this gullible?

For I certainly do.

But then you also think that Dodge owns Jeep and that inflation is caused by corporate greed.
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Post by NumbersDude Sat 7 May 2022 - 9:17

RQA wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

Do you think the (you) Conservatives are this gullible?

For I certainly do.

But then you also think that Dodge owns Jeep and that inflation is caused by corporate greed.

Stick to the subject please. Oh wait you are talking about gullible people. Carry on.
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Post by DWags Sat 7 May 2022 - 9:18

Trapper Gus wrote:
How The Wealthy Trick Conservative Voters wrote:Polling shows that since the 1950s Americans’ trust in government has fallen dramatically to historically low levels. In At War with Government, the political scientists Amy Fried and Douglas B. Harris reveal that this trend is no accident. Although distrust of authority is deeply rooted in American culture, it is fueled by conservative elites who benefit from it. Since the postwar era conservative leaders have deliberately and strategically undermined faith in the political system for partisan aims.

Fried and Harris detail how conservatives have sown distrust to build organizations, win elections, shift power toward institutions that they control, and secure policy victories. They trace this strategy from the Nixon and Reagan years through Gingrich’s Contract with America, the Tea Party, and Donald Trump’s rise and presidency. Conservatives have promoted a political identity opposed to domestic state action, used racial messages to undermine unity, and cultivated cynicism to build and bolster coalitions. Once in power, they have defunded public services unless they help their constituencies and rolled back regulations, perversely proving the failure of government.

Book About Sheep

Do you think the (you) Conservatives are this gullible?

For I certainly do.

Yes, I think they are. And I know they’ll jump in here and try to do some mental gymnastics and explain away why they aren’t.

Which is comically ironic.
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Post by Trapper Gus Sat 7 May 2022 - 11:31

RQA wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

Do you think the (you) Conservatives are this gullible?

For I certainly do.

But then you also think that Dodge owns Jeep and that inflation is caused by corporate greed.

Your gaslighting me on the first point, as my actual statement was they are interchangeable references to the same parent company.

As to your second point I have shown you that is true at the current time.
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Post by Trapper Gus Sat 7 May 2022 - 11:33

NumbersDude wrote:More government = more regulation= less freedom= more taxes.

The decline in American industrial production has a direct correlation to the grown of government and regulation.

You have it backwards --- more taxes = more regulation = more government = more protection of personal freedom.
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Post by RQA Sat 7 May 2022 - 12:29

Trapper Gus wrote:more taxes = more regulation = more government = more protection of personal freedom.

This is about as accurate as Dodge owns Jeep. The Conservative Votes are Sheep & the Wealthy Are Their Shepards  420617953
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Post by sεяεηιτλ Sat 7 May 2022 - 14:05

2YOU SUCK!

false, decline in american manufacturing is a result of capitalism. Labor and materials are utilized where they can utilize it cheapest.
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Post by AvgMSUJoe Sat 7 May 2022 - 14:40

NumbersDude wrote:More government = more regulation= less freedom= more taxes.

The decline in American industrial production has a direct correlation to the grown of government and regulation.
decline?
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Post by Motown Spartan Sat 7 May 2022 - 15:35

AvgMSUJoe wrote:
NumbersDude wrote:More government = more regulation= less freedom= more taxes.

The decline in American industrial production has a direct correlation to the grown of government and regulation.
decline?

Don't ruin a good conservative talking point with the reality that industrial output in the USA is at all time highs.
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Post by NumbersDude Sat 7 May 2022 - 23:59

Motown Spartan wrote:
AvgMSUJoe wrote:decline?

Don't ruin a good conservative talking point with the reality that industrial output in the USA is at all time highs.

In the few decades the US is no longer the world leader in industrial output.
https://www.brookings.edu/research/global-manufacturing-scorecard-how-the-us-compares-to-18-other-nations/
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Post by Motown Spartan Sun 8 May 2022 - 6:22

Don't conflate manufacturing and industrial output. Manufacturing is a subset of industrial output.
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Post by Trapper Gus Sun 8 May 2022 - 7:46

RQA wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:more taxes = more regulation = more government = more protection of personal freedom.

This is about as accurate as Dodge owns Jeep. The Conservative Votes are Sheep & the Wealthy Are Their Shepards  420617953

herein is the falsehood Conservatives believe about freedom and government that the Conservatives don't think about critically.
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Post by Motown Spartan Sun 8 May 2022 - 8:05

Trapper Gus wrote:
RQA wrote:

This is about as accurate as Dodge owns Jeep. The Conservative Votes are Sheep & the Wealthy Are Their Shepards  420617953

herein is the falsehood Conservatives believe about freedom and government that the Conservatives don't think about critically.

To be fair, critical thinking and conservatism are mutually exclusive.
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Post by Trapper Gus Sun 8 May 2022 - 8:21

Motown Spartan wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

herein is the falsehood Conservatives believe about freedom and government that the Conservatives don't think about critically.

To be fair, critical thinking and conservatism are mutually exclusive.

Okay, though I don't agree.

Before Reagan they were using logic and a stated position. Nixon used race to win but governed like a per Reagan Republician.
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Post by NumbersDude Sun 8 May 2022 - 10:44

Trapper Gus wrote:
Motown Spartan wrote:

To be fair, critical thinking and conservatism are mutually exclusive.

Okay, though I don't agree.

Before Reagan they were using logic and a stated position. Nixon used race to win but governed like a per Reagan Republician.
Reagan suxs. He banned machine guns
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Post by Trapper Gus Sun 8 May 2022 - 10:46

NumbersDude wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

Okay, though I don't agree.

Before Reagan they were using logic and a stated position. Nixon used race to win but governed like a per Reagan Republician.
Reagan suxs. He banned machine guns

Reagan started us down the path on corporate power controlling almost everything & he continued the lowering of taxes on high incomes. Those combined have done more to destroy the United States than anything any foreign power has done.
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