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Post by Trapper Gus Thu Nov 03, 2022 8:17 am

Here is a detailed article about the development of renewable electric generation in Michigan.

At the local level the farmers & energy companies verses the vacationers.

Have seen it, not up close but close enough, two townships away, over the development of a solar farm.

What I expect to happen, eventually, is what happened with oil & gas well drilling, the State moved in and set rules which allowed the wishes of the local communities to be overruled to allow drilling.

It may take 20 years, but it probably will come to that.

https://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-environment-watch/wind-wars-wind-turbines-put-green-energy-ballot-mid-michigan


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Post by Trapper Gus Mon Nov 28, 2022 11:02 am

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Post by Trapper Gus Mon Jan 30, 2023 8:28 am

A change in title and focus for this thread --- rather than a new thread

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https://www.eia.gov/outlooks/steo/pdf/steo_full.pdf

40% of generated electricity in the US is from low CO2 sources.  cheers

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Post by Turtleneck Mon Jan 30, 2023 8:51 am

I heat my home by burning a mix of plastic and motor oil. Is that bad?
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Post by Trapper Gus Mon Jan 30, 2023 9:01 am

Turtleneck wrote:I heat my home by burning a mix of plastic and motor oil. Is that bad?

lol!

Ummm...yes?
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Post by Jake from State Farm Mon Jan 30, 2023 10:04 am

Turtleneck wrote:I heat my home by burning a mix of plastic and motor oil. Is that bad?

Throw in a tire every once in a while instead of taking them to a landfill.
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Post by Trapper Gus Mon Jan 30, 2023 10:12 am

https://phys.org/news/2017-02-renewable-car-trees-grass.html

A team of researchers, led by the University of Minnesota, has invented a new technology to produce automobile tires from trees and grasses in a process that could shift the tire production industry toward using renewable resources found right in our backyards. wrote:
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Post by Jake from State Farm Mon Jan 30, 2023 11:13 am

Trapper Gus wrote:https://phys.org/news/2017-02-renewable-car-trees-grass.html

A team of researchers, led by the University of Minnesota, has invented a new technology to produce automobile tires from trees and grasses in a process that could shift the tire production industry toward using renewable resources found right in our backyards. wrote:

That's pretty cool but we'd still be stuck with figuring how to dispose of them.
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Post by Turtleneck Mon Jan 30, 2023 11:17 am

Jake from State Farm wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:I heat my home by burning a mix of plastic and motor oil. Is that bad?

Throw in a tire every once in a while instead of taking them to a landfill.

I could probably make some money taking used tires off people's hands, too. Seems like a win-win for everybody.
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Post by Trapper Gus Tue Jan 31, 2023 1:13 pm

Turtleneck wrote:
Jake from State Farm wrote:

Throw in a tire every once in a while instead of taking them to a landfill.

I could probably make some money taking used tires off people's hands, too. Seems like a win-win for everybody.

Speaking of making money, it turns out that renewables are cheaper than fossil fuels.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jan/30/us-coal-more-expensive-than-renewable-energy-study
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Post by tGreenWay Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:32 pm

Turtleneck wrote:I heat my home by burning a mix of plastic and motor oil. Is that bad?



Toss in a few songbirds every time. It’s a beautiful sound right up until the time they floof up in flames.
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Post by AvgMSUJoe Tue Jan 31, 2023 8:33 pm

My 12 year old daughter picks and chooses her environmentalism... so i have to relate everything to how many straws she shoves up the noses of turtles when she leaves the lights on or uses all the hot water or whatever...
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Post by Trapper Gus Tue Feb 07, 2023 7:23 am

https://www.axios.com/pro/climate-deals/2023/01/18/energy-storage-cost-effective-transmission-lines
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Post by Trapper Gus Mon Feb 27, 2023 1:16 pm

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/2/27/2151704/-Big-Day-for-Renewable-Electricity-Generation
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Post by Trapper Gus Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:39 am

https://apnews.com/article/renewable-energy-coal-nuclear-climate-change-dd4a0b168fe057f430e37398615155a0?utm_source=homepage&utm_medium=TopNews&utm_campaign=position_09

Electricity generated from renewables surpassed coal in the United States for the first time in 2022, the U.S. Energy Information Administration announced Monday.

Renewables also surpassed nuclear generation in 2022 after first doing so last year.
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Post by Trapper Gus Mon Jun 12, 2023 8:36 am

The Biden administration offers incentives to speed the adoption of electric vehicles and build the associated charging networks, but large-scale electrification has seen no such speed-up. The country is not on pace to handle mass EV adoption. The U.S. will have to invest multibillions in clean-energy technologies, including the transmission lines that move wind and solar power, to achieve net-zero targets by 2050. It is nowhere near those goals.

https://prospect.org/environment/2023-06-08-congress-short-circuits-electric-grid/

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https://michiganadvance.com/2023/08/31/solar-grazing-is-a-way-for-farmers-and-solar-companies-to-use-land-but-there-are-challenges/
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Post by Trapper Gus Wed Jan 03, 2024 8:26 am

“Five years can be considered rapid speed in transmission development,” he said.

Indeed, even for a nation that has struggled to bring aging roads, bridges, rail lines and other infrastructure up to par, electric transmission lines take a long time to build.

However, the Biden administration’s Department of Energy is keenly aware of how crucial the pace of transmission expansion is to a reliable grid increasingly beset by severe weather, alleviating pockets of high prices and congestion and achieving federal and states’ decarbonization goals. Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm says the nation’s grid needs to double to achieve 100% clean electricity by 2035.

And, armed with billions in dollars of loans, grants and other funding to improve siting and permitting and help get projects up and running, the agency is making what experts call a historic push to invest in American transmission.

https://michiganadvance.com/2024/01/03/building-transmission-takes-forever-the-biden-administration-is-pushing-to-change-that/
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Post by Trapper Gus Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:24 am

For the first time in the United States, turbines are sending electricity to the grid from the sites of two large offshore wind farms.

The joint owners of the Vineyard Wind project, Avangrid and Copenhagen Infrastructure Partners, announced Wednesday the first electricity from one turbine at what will be a 62-turbine wind farm 15 miles (24 kilometers) off the coast of Massachusetts.

Five turbines are installed there. One turbine delivered about 5 megawatts of power to the Massachusetts grid just before midnight Wednesday. The other four are undergoing testing and should be operating early this year.

Danish wind energy developer Ørsted and the utility Eversource announced last month that their first turbine was sending electricity from what will be a 12-turbine wind farm, South Fork Wind, 35 miles (56 kilometers) east of Montauk Point, New York. Now, a total of five turbines have been installed there too.

https://apnews.com/article/offshore-wind-farm-vineyard-wind-massachusetts-climate-3c0bcd680bfa5c5bea7d8136a003cf6c
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Post by Trapper Gus Wed Jan 10, 2024 3:39 pm

About 40% of electricity in the US during 2023 was generated from emissions free generation sources.



https://singularityhub.com/2024/01/08/iea-says-40-percent-of-us-electricity-is-now-emission-free-for-the-first-time/
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Post by Trapper Gus Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:01 am

In running the government the devil is in the details.

President Joe Biden’s three nominees to the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission faced questions from a U.S. Senate committee Thursday, with senators probing their views on fossil fuels and climate policy, the reliability of the nation’s electric grid and gas delivery system and how to handle the pressing need for new electric transmission lines, among other topics.

One major clean energy industry group, wary of a political fight that could leave the crucial energy regulator without a quorum during a major transition of the electric grid, called on the Senate to confirm the nominees swiftly.


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Post by TravelinMan Thu Mar 28, 2024 10:24 am

Why don't they just put up more solar panels and wind mills, instead of this?

https://apnews.com/article/michigan-nuclear-plant-federal-loan-cbafb1aad2402ecf7393d763a732c4f8?utm_source=copy&utm_medium=share
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Post by Trapper Gus Thu Mar 28, 2024 11:18 am

TravelinMan wrote:Why don't they just put up more solar panels and wind mills, instead of this?

https://apnews.com/article/michigan-nuclear-plant-federal-loan-cbafb1aad2402ecf7393d763a732c4f8?utm_source=copy&utm_medium=share

Getting rid of fossil fuel greenhouse gases anyway we can short term is good.

Eventually renewables might replace existing nuclear.
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Post by Trapper Gus Sat Apr 27, 2024 9:16 am

California has been getting all of its electricity from renewable sources, and selling the surplus to other states, for around 35 of the last 40 days, don't remember the exact number.

This report referenced in the link below states that generation of electricity from renewable generation is cheaper than from fossil fuels generation  and that battery storage & supply is equal in cost, and still dropping, with fossil fuel generation.

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/tumble-storage-battery-costs-boost-shift-renewables-says-iea-2024-04-25/
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Post by Zurn Fri May 10, 2024 8:36 am

What if the wind doesn't blow?

The US added 6.2 GW of wind capacity but electricity production from wind dropped by 2.1%
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Post by kingstonlake Fri May 10, 2024 8:49 am

Zurn wrote:What if the wind doesn't blow?

The US added 6.2 GW of wind capacity but electricity production from wind dropped by 2.1%

Next thing you’re going to tell me is my garden grows better when it rains.
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Post by Trapper Gus Fri May 10, 2024 8:52 am

https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=61943
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Post by Zurn Fri May 10, 2024 8:53 am

kingstonlake wrote:
Zurn wrote:What if the wind doesn't blow?

The US added 6.2 GW of wind capacity but electricity production from wind dropped by 2.1%

Next thing you’re going to tell me is my garden grows better when it rains.

Am I supposed to plug my Chinese made EV into your tomato plant?
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Post by kingstonlake Fri May 10, 2024 9:06 am

Zurn wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:

Next thing you’re going to tell me is my garden grows better when it rains.

Am I supposed to plug my Chinese made EV into your tomato plant?  

No. You’d use one of the many different options to charge it with electricity. 

Did you know that when the suns out, it’s typically warmer than if it’s not?
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Post by Trapper Gus Fri May 10, 2024 9:11 am

Zurn wrote:What if the wind doesn't blow?

The US added 6.2 GW of wind capacity but electricity production from wind dropped by 2.1%

https://www.newsweek.com/california-milestone-renewable-energy-1890345


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Post by Zurn Fri May 10, 2024 1:11 pm

kingstonlake wrote:
Zurn wrote:

Am I supposed to plug my Chinese made EV into your tomato plant?  

No. You’d use one of the many different options to charge it with electricity. 


And so on a night when the wind isn't blowing what would be those many different options?
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Post by GRR Spartan Fri May 10, 2024 1:29 pm

Right on cue Zurn is blowing GOP wind myths again.
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Post by InTenSity Fri May 10, 2024 1:34 pm

I don't understand the hate towards renewable energy. It doesn't have to be a substitute but it should be a much larger supplement. I keep putting it off, but I want to get solar panels. Unfortunately, even though I live in the Sunshine state, the current governor is in the pocket of the electric companies and continues to turn down Federal funds that every other fucking state gets to take advantage of. All because Woke fucked him in the ass at some point in his life.
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Post by kingstonlake Fri May 10, 2024 1:56 pm

Zurn wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:

No. You’d use one of the many different options to charge it with electricity. 


And so on a night when the wind isn't blowing what would be those many different options?


You’re dumb.
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Post by Motown Spartan Fri May 10, 2024 3:21 pm

Zurn wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:

No. You’d use one of the many different options to charge it with electricity. 


And so on a night when the wind isn't blowing what would be those many different options?

The thrusting of the whore’s hips that’s pegging you.
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Post by GRR Spartan Fri May 10, 2024 7:51 pm

InTenSity wrote:I don't understand the hate towards renewable energy. It doesn't have to be a substitute but it should be a much larger supplement. I keep putting it off, but I want to get solar panels. Unfortunately, even though I live in the Sunshine state, the current governor is in the pocket of the electric companies and continues to turn down Federal funds that every other fucking state gets to take advantage of. All because Woke fucked him in the ass at some point in his life.

The GOP, “conservatives” and Libertarians don’t want renewable energy until Big Oil controls enough of the renewable infrastructure. Then they will like renewables as much as they have loved fossil fuels.
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Post by Trapper Gus Sun May 12, 2024 9:44 am

With new wind and solar now cheaper than existing fossil fuel generation, it is only a matter of time before they fully replace all new energy demand first, and replace existing fossil fuels after – even in fast-growing economies. However, as the UN report shows, this process needs to be significantly sped up to avert catastrophic warming.

https://theconversation.com/renewables-are-cheaper-than-ever-yet-fossil-fuel-use-is-still-growing-heres-why-213428
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Post by Trapper Gus Mon May 13, 2024 6:35 pm

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-energy-regulator-issues-rules-163516072.html

This is a bfd. Expect existing fossil fuel powered electric generation companies to fight it tooth & nail.
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Post by Trapper Gus Mon May 13, 2024 7:59 pm

Upgrading the grid is key to bringing the renewable generation systems on line.
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Post by Trapper Gus Tue May 14, 2024 7:18 am

Zurn wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:

No. You’d use one of the many different options to charge it with electricity. 


And so on a night when the wind isn't blowing what would be those many different options?

https://michiganadvance.com/2024/05/13/in-some-parts-of-the-u-s-the-grid-of-the-future-might-be-closer-than-you-think/
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Post by Trapper Gus Thu May 16, 2024 8:19 am

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kensilverstein/2024/05/15/renewables-will-skyrocket-under-new-transmission-policies/?sh=73c4a8899e1e

https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2024/05/turning-point-in-energy-history-as-solar-wind-start-pushing-fossil-fuels-off-the-grid/

https://michiganadvance.com/2024/05/17/michigan-launches-program-to-help-connect-large-clean-energy-projects-to-federal-funding/

https://techxplore.com/news/2024-04-air-farms-efficient-previously-thought.html
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