Re: East Palestine OH Train

by **NigelUno** 2023-02-16, 23:44

Cameron wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

I'll take the over.

Is it your contention that the legal system is fair and does not favor corporations, or are you being disagreeable just to be disagreeable?

It's my contention that Norfolk Southern is going to end up paying a shit ton of money out (whether they're evil or not), and it's sure as hell going to be more than $5.21/person (not to mention the cost the EPA is going to drop on them).

It's a little early to say what amount will be fair and if the legal system will favor them. My guess is they'll want to settle before going to trial. A judge or jury might award a hell of a lot more.

by **kingstonlake** 2023-02-17, 06:03

GRR Spartan wrote:I keep recalling that since the 1980 Presidential election there have been pols telling us that US businesses and corporations are over taxed and over regulated,

The part of the pitch is business knows their challenges better than any government entity and if they can self-regulate better than having interference caused by rules comng from the DOT, EPA, FDA and FEC.

How’s that working out?

The Tittabawassee River agrees.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** 2023-02-17, 06:17

NigelUno wrote:
Cameron wrote:

Is it your contention that the legal system is fair and does not favor corporations, or are you being disagreeable just to be disagreeable?

It's my contention that Norfolk Southern is going to end up paying a shit ton of money out (whether they're evil or not), and it's sure as hell going to be more than $5.21/person (not to mention the cost the EPA is going to drop on them).

It's a little early to say what amount will be fair and if the legal system will favor them. My guess is they'll want to settle before going to trial. A judge or jury might award a hell of a lot more.

It will be more than $5.21, yes. But just like equifax, I’m sure we can agree that it will be significantly less than the value of the actual damage caused.

by **NigelUno** 2023-02-17, 11:31

DWags wrote:The fuck. That rail company would be buying my house and paying my moving expenses. No way do I live in that town, or raise a family. especially a young family.

They have provided reimbursement and cash advances for evacuees so far. If clean up takes awhile, I wouldn't be surprised if they offered reimbursement to move people from highly impacted areas.

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/update-on-norfolk-southern-assistance-to-the-east-palestine-oh-community-301745589.html

by **Turtleneck** 2023-02-17, 13:54

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by **kingstonlake** 2023-02-17, 16:12

According to a lady in my office Biden has said they won’t provide aid because it’s a Republican town.

by **Turtleneck** 2023-02-17, 16:15

kingstonlake wrote:According to a lady in my office Biden has said they won’t provide aid because it’s a Republican town.

Are you the assistant regional manager at MAGA Paper Supply?

by **kingstonlake** 2023-02-17, 16:26

Turtleneck wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:According to a lady in my office Biden has said they won’t provide aid because it’s a Republican town.

Are you the assistant regional manager at MAGA Paper Supply?

Some very important people are saying our paper is some of the whitest paper they’ve ever seen in our history.

by **Floyd Robertson** 2023-02-22, 17:13

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So sad that it's funny.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2023-02-22, 18:57

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America is a stupid country.

by **Trapper Gus** 2023-02-23, 13:53

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

It's my contention that Norfolk Southern is going to end up paying a shit ton of money out (whether they're evil or not), and it's sure as hell going to be more than $5.21/person (not to mention the cost the EPA is going to drop on them).

It's a little early to say what amount will be fair and if the legal system will favor them. My guess is they'll want to settle before going to trial. A judge or jury might award a hell of a lot more.

It will be more than $5.21, yes. But just like equifax, I’m sure we can agree that it will be significantly less than the value of the actual damage caused.

Well for some odd reason the value of property in East Palestine has suddenly dropped. You wouldn't expect the rail company to pay more than market value.

by **Trapper Gus** 2023-02-27, 12:43

Elected Republicans don't know whose who in their government.

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by AvgMSUJoe 2023-02-27, 15:43

Be loudmouths then hope someone competent will sort it out.

R mantra.

by **Floyd Robertson** 2023-02-27, 19:07

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This is where the republicans go off track and try to deflect.

by AvgMSUJoe 2023-02-27, 19:18

Right, blaming the administration for this is like blaming the FDA for the leathery hotdogs at the Speedway.

I'm pretty positive Pete Budaggg didn't schedule the maintenance for this or any train....

Also, it will be fun to see some DOT employee listing all of the deregulation of the industry under Rs which eventually lead to where they are today. (Running unsafe trains too long with ancient safety technology)

by **Trapper Gus** 2023-02-27, 20:01

The Republicans are walking into a buzz saw if they go after the executive branch.

by **Trapper Gus** 2023-03-01, 11:20

Came across this bit of railroad machinery with this sign. Pay attention to the right hand side.

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by **NigelUno** 2023-04-11, 08:52

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by **tGreenWay** 2023-04-11, 10:39

ffs.

https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/news/contaminated-soil-east-palestine-derailment-clean-up-site-truck-crash/

by **Jake from State Farm** 2023-04-11, 11:55

tGreenWay wrote:ffs.

https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/news/contaminated-soil-east-palestine-derailment-clean-up-site-truck-crash/

The wheels are coming off.

by **Trapper Gus** 2023-06-11, 09:22

OMAHA, Neb. (AP) — The Federal Railroad Administration recently completed a review of Norfolk Southern’s safety culture in the wake of the February’s fiery derailment in Ohio, and officials plan to follow up with similar investigations of all the major freight railroads over the next year.

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Federal regulators have said that safety data hasn’t changed enough to show that the railroads’ new operating model is unsafe. The figures do show that the rate of accidents per every million miles freight trains travel increased from 15.572 to 16.695 over the past decade even though the total number of incidents declined as railroads hauled less freight. The rate of accidents inside railyards also worsened from 11.044 in 2013 to 15.517 last year.

https://apnews.com/article/freight-railroad-safety-review-derailments-3fa5c1b3906762df8661c244c4f960c2

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