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Robert J Sakimano wrote:I'm not the one supporting a political.party who celebrates "personal freedom" by quoting Hitler.TravelinMan wrote:
Bob, have you ever considered your skin may be far too thin for the interwebz?
And I know it would be convenient for you if I stopped stopped exercising 'personal freedom" by pointing it out.
Maybe you could change screen names and do it as a different screen name. Because that’s what a normal well adjusted person would do.
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DWags wrote:Robert J Sakimano wrote:
I'm not the one supporting a political.party who celebrates "personal freedom" by quoting Hitler.
And I know it would be convenient for you if I stopped stopped exercising 'personal freedom" by pointing it out.
Maybe you could change screen names and do it as a different screen name. Because that’s what a normal well adjusted person would do.
I forgot that he exercises his personal freedom by working hard at multiple screen names.
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21st Century America has no room for uppity minorities who can’t be bought.
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When Moms for Liberty convened in Philadelphia last week, five candidates for the Republican presidential nomination, including Trump, showed up. Former South Carolina governor Nikki Haley told them: “When they mentioned that this was a terrorist organization, I said, ‘Well then, count me as a mom for liberty because that’s what I am.”
But here’s the crisis for the Republican Party: Leaders who wanted tax cuts and cuts to social programs relied on courting voters with cultural issues, suggesting that their coalition was protecting the United States from radicalism.
But the Republican embrace of Moms for Liberty illustrates dramatically and to a wide audience how radical the party itself has become, threatening to turn away all but its extremist base. A strong majority of Americans oppose book banning: about two thirds of the general population and even 51% of Republicans oppose it, recognizing that it echoes the rise of authoritarians.
https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/july-7-2023
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but, as our republican/libertarian friends here tell us, they're not really honoring Hitler.Trapper Gus wrote:When Moms for Liberty convened in Philadelphia last week, five candidates for the Republican presidential nomination, including Trump, showed up. Former South Carolina governor Nikki Haley told them: “When they mentioned that this was a terrorist organization, I said, ‘Well then, count me as a mom for liberty because that’s what I am.”
But here’s the crisis for the Republican Party: Leaders who wanted tax cuts and cuts to social programs relied on courting voters with cultural issues, suggesting that their coalition was protecting the United States from radicalism.
But the Republican embrace of Moms for Liberty illustrates dramatically and to a wide audience how radical the party itself has become, threatening to turn away all but its extremist base. A strong majority of Americans oppose book banning: about two thirds of the general population and even 51% of Republicans oppose it, recognizing that it echoes the rise of authoritarians.
https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/july-7-2023
[tw] https://twitter.com/NoLieWithBTC/status/1677706419905101824?t=eH6ifPqfts19T-uZqBGZrQ&s=19 [/tw]
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Premise is about a couple who gets lost on a couples hike, gets lost and finds themselves in Schmigadoon. A back in time village where almost everything gets turned into broadway song.
Schmigadoon's moral police is Mothers against The Future.
The real life Moms for Liberty want to drag us back to a past where books are banned, Christian religion can be a component of public schools and they support elimination of anything they deem close to Critical Race Theory.
They invited Ryan Walters, Oklahoma State Superintendent of Schools to speak this week in Philadelphia. This is the Ryan Walters who backtracked from his answer that the Tulsa Massacre shouldn't be tired to race in a town Hal in Norman that went viral. Not surprisingly, after his answer went public he backtracked.
Sort of like having a member of a IN MfL member quoting Hitler, then backtracking.
https://tulsaworld.com/news/local/education/ryan-walters-denies-saying-tulsa-race-massacre-was-not-about-race/article_72a3e2cc-1cf6-11ee-b1b0-5ba8ffc83ba6.html
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Robert J Sakimano wrote:but, as our republican/libertarian friends here tell us, they're not really honoring Hitler.Trapper Gus wrote:
https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/july-7-2023
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aualum06 wrote:It's hard to believe this is a thing but here we are
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Americans & Jews?
All the Jewish people I know come from families that have been "Americans" for a long time.
What a bunch of assholes these MFL'ers are.
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Cameron wrote:Quoting Hitler is basically always a stupid thing to do, and I have very little interest in defending anything to do with Moms for Liberty, but as I understand it, the point they thought they were trying to make was that Hitler wanted to control children to control the future, so I think they were kind of obliquely trying to compare wokeness and the education in general to Hitler.
But carry on with the kneejerk "omg they quoted Hitler because they love Hitler" takes.
I'm still right and this "controversy" is still stupid. Use your fucking brains, people.
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It’s text book demagoguery filled with exaggerated claims with few or no examples that can be proven.
NEVER ANY SPECIFICS and why it’s WIDE SPREAD.
I believe their goal is to create a voucher system that will fund religious schools across the nation.
PS
Are believers in Islam, Hindu, Baha’i and other faiths included in MfL’s K-12 education utopia?
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Cameron wrote:Cameron wrote:Quoting Hitler is basically always a stupid thing to do, and I have very little interest in defending anything to do with Moms for Liberty, but as I understand it, the point they thought they were trying to make was that Hitler wanted to control children to control the future, so I think they were kind of obliquely trying to compare wokeness and the education in general to Hitler.
But carry on with the kneejerk "omg they quoted Hitler because they love Hitler" takes.
I'm still right and this "controversy" is still stupid. Use your fucking brains, people.
Except they actually want to control children
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Cameron wrote:Cameron wrote:Quoting Hitler is basically always a stupid thing to do, and I have very little interest in defending anything to do with Moms for Liberty, but as I understand it, the point they thought they were trying to make was that Hitler wanted to control children to control the future, so I think they were kind of obliquely trying to compare wokeness and the education in general to Hitler.
But carry on with the kneejerk "omg they quoted Hitler because they love Hitler" takes.
I'm still right and this "controversy" is still stupid. Use your fucking brains, people.
For fucks sake. I don’t care if they say “Michigan State is the greatest university on earth and all graduates are good looking righteous people”. They couldn’t be bigger cunts. All of them. They don’t get the benefit of anyone trying to explain what they mean by whatever nosey ignorant Karen filled bullshit they’re spewing on stage. I don’t give a rats ass. These fuckers are pure evil. So put any size pearl on their necks. They’re still loud mouth dumb as rocks infiltrating school boards they have nothing to do with hate filled cunts.
Fuck every last one of them to hell.
Thanks.
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aualum06 wrote:Cameron wrote:
I'm still right and this "controversy" is still stupid. Use your fucking brains, people.
Except they actually want to control children
Of course they do. It was never my contention that they didn't.
DWags wrote:Cameron wrote:
I'm still right and this "controversy" is still stupid. Use your fucking brains, people.
For fucks sake. I don’t care if they say “Michigan State is the greatest university on earth and all graduates are good looking righteous people”. They couldn’t be bigger cunts. All of them. They don’t get the benefit of anyone trying to explain what they mean by whatever nosey ignorant Karen filled bullshit they’re spewing on stage. I don’t give a rats ass. These fuckers are pure evil. So put any size pearl on their necks. They’re still loud mouth dumb as rocks infiltrating school boards they have nothing to do with hate filled cunts.
Fuck every last one of them to hell.
Thanks.
I agree, fuck those cunts.
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but.. they're not really praising Hitler.. that's just what limp-wristed liberals are telling you.DWags wrote:Cameron wrote:
I'm still right and this "controversy" is still stupid. Use your fucking brains, people.
For fucks sake. I don’t care if they say “Michigan State is the greatest university on earth and all graduates are good looking righteous people”. They couldn’t be bigger cunts. All of them. They don’t get the benefit of anyone trying to explain what they mean by whatever nosey ignorant Karen filled bullshit they’re spewing on stage. I don’t give a rats ass. These fuckers are pure evil. So put any size pearl on their necks. They’re still loud mouth dumb as rocks infiltrating school boards they have nothing to do with hate filled cunts.
Fuck every last one of them to hell.
Thanks.
Oh, and they use Hitler quotes on their brochures and in their speeches.
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What’s with all the group poses? That stupid ass teen bullshit. They want to be seen and heard. And the best way is to make up a bullshit issue that isn’t a problem. Bottom line they’re bored and insecure.
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This is the Tea Party part 2.
It fits in with the "No Lables Party" as a multipronged effort to peal voters away from the Democratics.
Is it any wonder that their message is the same as the billionaires fair haired boy, DeSantis? I think not.
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yes, fuck all the fucking fucker cunts.Cameron wrote:aualum06 wrote:
Except they actually want to control children
Of course they do. It was never my contention that they didn't.DWags wrote:
For fucks sake. I don’t care if they say “Michigan State is the greatest university on earth and all graduates are good looking righteous people”. They couldn’t be bigger cunts. All of them. They don’t get the benefit of anyone trying to explain what they mean by whatever nosey ignorant Karen filled bullshit they’re spewing on stage. I don’t give a rats ass. These fuckers are pure evil. So put any size pearl on their necks. They’re still loud mouth dumb as rocks infiltrating school boards they have nothing to do with hate filled cunts.
Fuck every last one of them to hell.
Thanks.
I agree, fuck those cunts.
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This is the Tea Party part 2.
It fits in with the "No Lables Party" as a multipronged effort to peal voters away from the Democratics.
Is it any wonder that their message is the same as the billionaires fair haired boy, DeSantis? I think not.[/cents.
Seems plausible. Republicans sure are insidious. Do they as a group do anything above board? Anything actually good for this country? I think not
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One of the most depressing aspects of contemporary public discourse is not only how disingenuous so many arguments can be but also how mind-numbingly dumb they are as well. A classic example of that concerned the question of whether the parental-rights organization called Moms for Liberty is a hate group that extols the memory of Adolf Hitler.
they literally quoted Hitler on their brochures..
"Oh, I'm sorry that I thought you were a Nazi sympathizer.. I just saw your organization's brochures quoting Adolf Hitler. My bad".
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hence the Hitler propaganda, the White Nationalist movement and language.
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sεяεηιτλ wrote:.Trapper Gus wrote:IMO the main point is this is a group that was started by the conservative billionaires using some of their pocket change to build a voting block of suburban white women to counter the Republicans huge abortion problem.
This is the Tea Party part 2.
It fits in with the "No Lables Party" as a multipronged effort to peal voters away from the Democratics.
Is it any wonder that their message is the same as the billionaires fair haired boy, DeSantis? I think not.
Seems plausible. Republicans sure are insidious. Do they as a group do anything above board? Anything actually good for this country? I think not
Moms for Liberty was co-founded in Florida on January 1, 2021, by former school board members Tina Descovich and Tiffany Justice, and by then-current school board member Bridget Ziegler, the wife of Florida Republican Party Chairman Christian Ziegler. By late 2021, Ziegler had left the organization. Republican activist and campaign consultant Marie Rogerson is the third-leading member of Moms for Liberty. Descovich receives a stipend as Moms for Liberty's executive director.
Crediting Moms for Liberty with bringing new voters to the Republican Party, Christian Ziegler told The Washington Post in October 2021 that he had "been trying for a dozen years to get 20- and 30-year-old females involved with the Republican Party, and it was a heavy lift to get that demographic. But now Moms for Liberty has done it for me."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moms_for_Liberty
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False advertising, “Cunts for Discrimination” is much more apt.Motown Spartan wrote:Anyone ever notice the same group calling the LGBTQ community “groomers” don’t have a problem dressing their own kids up in MAGA gear? These mothers are the real groomers.
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Are Republicans so dumb that they really think that the latest outrage about drag shows is gaining votes for them?
Earth to Republicans. The only people outraged were voting for Trump already.
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Are Republicans so dumb that they really think that the latest outrage about drag shows is gaining votes for them?
Earth to Republicans. The only people outraged were voting for Trump already.
And the only reason they're outraged is because Trump, Fox News and a half dozen parrots told them to be.
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Several gubernatorial candidates who also leaned heavily on parents’ rights fell short in other states, including in Michigan, Wisconsin and Kansas.
Red, Wine and Blue is among the groups that have pushed back, using programs such as “Troublemaker Trainings” to educate interested women about how to defeat groups like Moms for Liberty.
Paris, of Red, Wine and Blue, criticized the “parental rights” movement for focusing school district resources on issues such as transgender athletes, which may account for a handful of kids in a state, at the expense of broader issues such as helping millions of kids with reading after pandemic setbacks.
“It’s a political strategy to appeal to the base, and they don’t care who gets harmed in the process,” Paris said.
MSM supporting the latest "shiny object" offered up by the Republicans.
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it's what the mainstream media does..Trapper Gus wrote:https://apnews.com/article/2024-republicans-president-mama-bears-moms-desantis-a96ae3d1ed167f823360e7645ca4b519Several gubernatorial candidates who also leaned heavily on parents’ rights fell short in other states, including in Michigan, Wisconsin and Kansas.
Red, Wine and Blue is among the groups that have pushed back, using programs such as “Troublemaker Trainings” to educate interested women about how to defeat groups like Moms for Liberty.
Paris, of Red, Wine and Blue, criticized the “parental rights” movement for focusing school district resources on issues such as transgender athletes, which may account for a handful of kids in a state, at the expense of broader issues such as helping millions of kids with reading after pandemic setbacks.
“It’s a political strategy to appeal to the base, and they don’t care who gets harmed in the process,” Paris said.
MSM supporting the latest "shine object" offered up by the Republicans.
"they're not really Nazis and Hitler sympathizers. . c'mon.. if they were Nazis and Hitler sympathizers, they'd have the mustache. They're just concerned parents who want their country back. Nevermind that they quote Hitler on their brochures. They just want what's best for their kids"...
then, what's worse, people actually believe that.
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Other than watching her father and probably volunteering during campaigns when her dad was running for County Prosecutor and County Executive, what experience as a fourth grade teacher makes her a viable candidate except for her last name?
When her late father ran for County executive he had over a decade of experience running the prosecutor’s office.
L Brooks Patterson daughter announces she’s running for Oakland County Exec.
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And, if you're keeping score at home, Hitler wasn't a fan of Rabbis, either.
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Robert J Sakimano wrote:"Moms For Liberty" patriot (who are NOT Hitler sympathizers, despite them quoting Hitler in their brochures), allegedly spits on someone as she was blocked from confronting a {gasp} Rabbi.
And, if you're keeping score at home, Hitler wasn't a fan of Rabbis, either.
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Tennessee Chapter Of Moms For Liberty Booted From Online Community Platform Nextdoor For Being A “Hate Group”
Imagine being such a non-Nazi and arbiter of liberty that the local Karens in Tennessee boot you from their website.
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DeSantis appoints Moms for Liberty founder to state ethics commission
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Turtleneck wrote:Robert J Sakimano wrote:"Moms For Liberty" patriot (who are NOT Hitler sympathizers, despite them quoting Hitler in their brochures), allegedly spits on someone as she was blocked from confronting a {gasp} Rabbi.
And, if you're keeping score at home, Hitler wasn't a fan of Rabbis, either.
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That is their target audience, they are led by and paid for by the the Republicians. They started in Florida first as an effort to pry those abortion loving suburban house wives away from the Democratic Party.
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Moms for Liberty chair who pushed for removal of an Anne Frank book went on network that attacks “seditious Jews”
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