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Post by NigelUno 2023-10-24, 09:47

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WTF are you even talking about? Who has said they are cool with players like that? Also, to put this Izzo stuff to rest.

1) it's absolutely not ok when Izzo does that. I'm sure Izzo is a great guy to have a beer with, but that behavior isn't wanted or needed.

2) When Meyer was fired, how many current and former players publicly defended him? That's an actual question. I don't know the answer. Lots of current and former players come to Izzo's defense. That does not make it alright, but it might be telling in Meyer's case. College players, especially at highly visible and competitive programs, put up with a lot that professional players rightfully will not deal with.

3) Meyer's transgressions go so far beyond yelling. You know that. You're clearly intentionally ignoring everything else to try and draw equivalency with Izzo. It's very desperate behavior.

oh, that was about the other messiah. should have had been more clear.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state-university/2020/01/12/auston-robertson-sex-assault-record-lengthy-before-msu-then-raped-again/2735431001/

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No offense, but it seems like the only person playing the morally superior card here is you.
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Post by kingstonlake 2023-10-24, 09:49

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I hope he doesn’t harbor guys on his staff who hit women. Unless we’re winning. Then I’m cool with it.

ok so no coaches on staff like that but we are ok with players like that. good to know which goal posts are for each and how they move.

We are? Who said that?
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Post by GRR Spartan 2023-10-24, 10:00

There are asshole walverines lining up to badmouth MSU football on message boards, in media comment sections and calling in to sports talk radio.

MSU doesn’t need hairshirt Spartan fans reminiscing.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos 2023-10-24, 10:25

GRR Spartan wrote:There are asshole walverines lining up to badmouth MSU football on message boards, in media comment sections and calling in to sports talk radio.

MSU doesn’t need hairshirt Spartan fans reminiscing.
I have no idea what this word means. Like a Chewbacca costume?

But I think we’re on the same page. Any doubt I had about bringing on meyer with ideally some measure of oversight was mitigated by the headlines last week

MICHIGAN STATE CONSIDERED CANCELLING GAME AGAINST MICHIGAN 
Low level Michigan staffer has great time at big ten rival schools see his vlog at freep.com


Once you accept into your soul that you will never, ever win these people over and that even when you’re doing nothing sitting in a hotel jacking off these guys will come at you because of something Michigan did, it gets much easier. I do want Meyer here, and I would like some measure of oversight to make sure past mistakes don’t happen again (and I would just have to hope this would all be discussed in advance) and if we were to hire him they will write their articles. But they wrote their articles about lily white dantonio and captain Jesus cousins. They write their articles when news breaks that Michigan might have been running the biggest cheating ring ever. They will write their articles no matter who we hire, so fuck em, get the best coach we can and have the biggest narc nerd you can find following him around campus if you need to.
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Post by kingstonlake 2023-10-24, 10:36

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
GRR Spartan wrote:There are asshole walverines lining up to badmouth MSU football on message boards, in media comment sections and calling in to sports talk radio.

MSU doesn’t need hairshirt Spartan fans reminiscing.
I have no idea what this word means. Like a Chewbacca costume?

But I think we’re on the same page. Any doubt I had about bringing on meyer with ideally some measure of oversight was mitigated by the headlines last week

MICHIGAN STATE CONSIDERED CANCELLING GAME AGAINST MICHIGAN 
Low level Michigan staffer has great time at big ten rival schools see his vlog at freep.com


Once you accept into your soul that you will never, ever win these people over and that even when you’re doing nothing sitting in a hotel jacking off these guys will come at you because of something Michigan did, it gets much easier. I do want Meyer here, and I would like some measure of oversight to make sure past mistakes don’t happen again (and I would just have to hope this would all be discussed in advance) and if we were to hire him they will write their articles. But they wrote their articles about lily white dantonio and captain Jesus cousins. They write their articles when news breaks that Michigan might have been running the biggest cheating ring ever. They will write their articles no matter who we hire, so fuck em, get the best coach we can and have the biggest narc nerd you can find following him around campus if you need to.

I think that’s a good idea.
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Post by tGreenWay 2023-10-24, 10:38

Turtleneck wrote:I like Freeman, and it appears he has a good sense of humor. Maybe he can be lured away, but I would bet he wants the challenge of the ND job.

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Are we recruiting Niko Freeman yet?
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Post by kingstonlake 2023-10-24, 10:42

Kevin Sumlin is available. Potentially.
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Post by gomersbro 2023-10-24, 10:53

Remember that UofM had a COVID "outbreak" to avoid an asswhopping, we didn't. Not sure if we made the right decision.
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Post by Trapper Gus 2023-10-24, 10:55

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WTF are you even talking about? Who has said they are cool with players like that? Also, to put this Izzo stuff to rest.

1) it's absolutely not ok when Izzo does that. I'm sure Izzo is a great guy to have a beer with, but that behavior isn't wanted or needed.

2) When Meyer was fired, how many current and former players publicly defended him? That's an actual question. I don't know the answer. Lots of current and former players come to Izzo's defense. That does not make it alright, but it might be telling in Meyer's case. College players, especially at highly visible and competitive programs, put up with a lot that professional players rightfully will not deal with.

3) Meyer's transgressions go so far beyond yelling. You know that. You're clearly intentionally ignoring everything else to try and draw equivalency with Izzo. It's very desperate behavior.

oh, that was about the other messiah. should have had been more clear.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state-university/2020/01/12/auston-robertson-sex-assault-record-lengthy-before-msu-then-raped-again/2735431001/

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Despite his lengthy record of previous incidents, it’s not clear just what MSU officials knew.

Isn't this the guy where his high school coaches covered all this up?
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Post by Trapper Gus 2023-10-24, 10:56

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
GRR Spartan wrote:There are asshole walverines lining up to badmouth MSU football on message boards, in media comment sections and calling in to sports talk radio.

MSU doesn’t need hairshirt Spartan fans reminiscing.
I have no idea what this word means. Like a Chewbacca costume?

But I think we’re on the same page. Any doubt I had about bringing on meyer with ideally some measure of oversight was mitigated by the headlines last week

MICHIGAN STATE CONSIDERED CANCELLING GAME AGAINST MICHIGAN 
Low level Michigan staffer has great time at big ten rival schools see his vlog at freep.com


Once you accept into your soul that you will never, ever win these people over and that even when you’re doing nothing sitting in a hotel jacking off these guys will come at you because of something Michigan did, it gets much easier. I do want Meyer here, and I would like some measure of oversight to make sure past mistakes don’t happen again (and I would just have to hope this would all be discussed in advance) and if we were to hire him they will write their articles. But they wrote their articles about lily white dantonio and captain Jesus cousins. They write their articles when news breaks that Michigan might have been running the biggest cheating ring ever. They will write their articles no matter who we hire, so fuck em, get the best coach we can and have the biggest narc nerd you can find following him around campus if you need to.


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Post by Turtleneck 2023-10-24, 11:57

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oh, that was about the other messiah. should have had been more clear.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state-university/2020/01/12/auston-robertson-sex-assault-record-lengthy-before-msu-then-raped-again/2735431001/

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No offense, but it seems like the only person playing the morally superior card here is you.  

This.

Not one person said MSU is morally superior, and if they did they should be laughed at. I do not ever recall supporting Robertson or knowing about these issues previous to his signing. As far as I am concerned, if Dantonio knew about Robertson’s past, he had no business offering him a scholarship and we are better off without him as a coach.

Your arguments are just a series of fallacies, especially where you absolutely manufacture a collective take for the sake of argument and then apply that take to individuals. Do better. You’re going off the rails and will soon be in tilt territory.
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Post by Trapper Gus 2023-10-24, 13:50

Turtleneck wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

No offense, but it seems like the only person playing the morally superior card here is you.  

This.

Not one person said MSU is morally superior, and if they did they should be laughed at. I do not ever recall supporting Robertson or knowing about these issues previous to his signing. As far as I am concerned, if Dantonio knew about Robertson’s past, he had no business offering him a scholarship and we are better off without him as a coach.

Your arguments are just a series of fallacies, especially where you absolutely manufacture a collective take for the sake of argument and then apply that take to individuals. Do better. You’re going off the rails and will soon be in tilt territory.

Though what happens at other schools, say the one in A2, is that a corrupt justice system protects the players, aka the rapes that have occurred over the years and been covered up & last year's team captain's felony charge being dropped, while at MSU, without anything more than an arrest, with no convictions, players are kicked off the team and have to sue MSU to try to get their "good name" back.

Not sure that is more moral of MSU, seems like it is just brand protection with little to show for it, but it sure hurts recruiting & the teams.
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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That 2023-10-24, 19:05

Turtleneck wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

No offense, but it seems like the only person playing the morally superior card here is you.  

This.

Not one person said MSU is morally superior, and if they did they should be laughed at. I do not ever recall supporting Robertson or knowing about these issues previous to his signing. As far as I am concerned, if Dantonio knew about Robertson’s past, he had no business offering him a scholarship and we are better off without him as a coach.

Your arguments are just a series of fallacies, especially where you absolutely manufacture a collective take for the sake of argument and then apply that take to individuals. Do better. You’re going off the rails and will soon be in tilt territory.

Ah, so you don't want MSU to hire Urban Meyer because of the morals behind it.. yet you're not playing that card. Got it, I am following.

You also did not support Dantonio. Got it. Thanks for the clarification!
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Post by Trapper Gus 2023-10-25, 17:10

I think this should be a Crystal Ball Alert...

It appears former Ohio State head coach Urban Meyer has changed his nickname for Michigan's football program.

For years, Meyer has referred to Michigan as the "School Up North." During a recent appearance on the Big Ten Network, he referred to the Wolverines as "The Rival School."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/urban-meyer-has-a-new-three-word-nickname-for-michigan/ar-AA1iQyAn?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=2a299f271c5c479698470ab9e99184a3&ei=14
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos 2023-10-25, 17:27

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Post by Turtleneck 2023-10-25, 18:36

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:👀

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Is that googly eyed rock the latest candidate?
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Post by kingstonlake 2023-10-25, 18:41

Turtleneck wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:👀

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Is that googly eyed rock the latest candidate?

The turd is clearly in a desert out west. Think west coast. Possibly Utah.

It’s a turd, right?
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Post by Turtleneck 2023-10-25, 19:13

Off to San Jose State?
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Post by tGreenWay 2023-10-26, 04:42

Turtleneck wrote:Off to San Jose State?

Nope, leaving college athletics to restart the Spartan Food Stores chain using Ishbia’s money.
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Post by Trapper Gus 2023-10-26, 09:23

kingstonlake wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:

Is that googly eyed rock the latest candidate?

The turd is clearly in a desert out west. Think west coast. Possibly Utah.

It’s a turd, right?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/urban-meyers-sounds-off-on-utah-football-s-kyle-whittingham-as-one-of-best-coach-in-college-football-today/ar-AA1iRwwE?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=90226ac80e804c50b2c114d3464898aa&ei=49
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Post by CaptainSlow33 2023-10-26, 09:38

Trapper Gus wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:

The turd is clearly in a desert out west. Think west coast. Possibly Utah.

It’s a turd, right?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/urban-meyers-sounds-off-on-utah-football-s-kyle-whittingham-as-one-of-best-coach-in-college-football-today/ar-AA1iRwwE?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=90226ac80e804c50b2c114d3464898aa&ei=49

"Tough as nails" is something that no one has been able to say about MSU football for almost 10 years. Hopefully MSUAD is kicking the tires on him.
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Post by Trapper Gus 2023-10-27, 10:09

https://247sports.com/college/michigan-state/article/michigan-state-d-lineman-simeon-barrow-jr-withdraws-from-transfer-portal-218913887/

What does he know about the coaching search that we don't?
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Post by duffy munn 2023-10-27, 10:43

Trapper Gus wrote:https://247sports.com/college/michigan-state/article/michigan-state-d-lineman-simeon-barrow-jr-withdraws-from-transfer-portal-218913887/

What does he know about the coaching search that we don't?

My guess is nothing. Just like us. His quotes in Couch's story this morning indicate he just missed his team mates, loves MSU and rethought his decision ( said he heard from 40 schools).

Barnett welcomed him back but also left it up to the team. Their response was overwhelmingly in support of Barrow. Kinda cool to see guys hanging together despite the shitstorm swirling around the program.
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Post by NigelUno 2023-10-27, 11:10

Trapper Gus wrote:https://247sports.com/college/michigan-state/article/michigan-state-d-lineman-simeon-barrow-jr-withdraws-from-transfer-portal-218913887/

What does he know about the coaching search that we don't?

My guess is he didn't really understand the redshirt rule. He's played in 5 games. He ain't getting this year back.
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Post by duffy munn 2023-10-27, 11:23

NigelUno wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:https://247sports.com/college/michigan-state/article/michigan-state-d-lineman-simeon-barrow-jr-withdraws-from-transfer-portal-218913887/

What does he know about the coaching search that we don't?

My guess is he didn't really understand the redshirt rule. He's played in 5 games. He ain't getting this year back.

Don't say this to the Urbanites. They think Meyer sent a message to Barrow in his dreams.
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Post by NigelUno 2023-10-27, 11:25

duffy munn wrote:
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My guess is he didn't really understand the redshirt rule. He's played in 5 games. He ain't getting this year back.

Don't say this to the Urbanites. They think Meyer sent a message to Barrow in his dreams.

Oscar Meyer?
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Post by AvgMSUJoe 2023-10-27, 13:35

Trapper Gus wrote:https://247sports.com/college/michigan-state/article/michigan-state-d-lineman-simeon-barrow-jr-withdraws-from-transfer-portal-218913887/

What does he know about the coaching search that we don't?

This says what a phenomenal job Barnett is doing keeping the team together through this shit show. The fact the kids still care about this and want to stay in EL (for at least the remainder of the season) is quite frankly amazing.
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Post by duffy munn 2023-10-27, 15:15

AvgMSUJoe wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:https://247sports.com/college/michigan-state/article/michigan-state-d-lineman-simeon-barrow-jr-withdraws-from-transfer-portal-218913887/

What does he know about the coaching search that we don't?

This says what a phenomenal job Barnett is doing keeping the team together through this shit show. The fact the kids still care about this and want to stay in EL (for at least the remainder of the season) is quite frankly amazing.

I agree completely. I thought by now 20 guys would have bolted. Now after the season a bunch probably will. The Barrow quotes made me feel a little better about college football.
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Post by DWags 2023-10-27, 17:56

AvgMSUJoe wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:https://247sports.com/college/michigan-state/article/michigan-state-d-lineman-simeon-barrow-jr-withdraws-from-transfer-portal-218913887/

What does he know about the coaching search that we don't?

This says what a phenomenal job Barnett is doing keeping the team together through this shit show. The fact the kids still care about this and want to stay in EL (for at least the remainder of the season) is quite frankly amazing.


Know why everyone loved Bobby Williams?  Cause he was lovable. One of the best people I know on earth. He just doesn’t happen to be a head coach. I don’t know the bang stick, but I sense he’s the same way.  People are attracted to him.
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Post by InTenSity 2023-10-27, 18:00

Do head coaches need to be good at madden?

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