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Post by DWags 2024-11-06, 13:32

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Post by Floyd Robertson 2024-11-06, 13:37

What a nightmare and I don't suppose there's any way to stop his appointment.

Well, unless he follows in the family footsteps, I guess.
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Post by Floyd Robertson 2024-11-06, 13:39

As an aside, is there any chance that Project 2025 can really terminate a few million civilian servants and replace them with his boot lickers?
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Post by Jake from State Farm 2024-11-06, 13:43

Floyd Robertson wrote:As an aside, is there any chance that Project 2025 can really terminate a few million civilian servants and replace them with his boot lickers?

Yeah, you think the corruption was bad in Donnie the Felon's first term? Brainworm Kennedy says here, hold my beer
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Post by TravelinMan 2024-11-06, 13:45

Jake from State Farm wrote:
Floyd Robertson wrote:As an aside, is there any chance that Project 2025 can really terminate a few million civilian servants and replace them with his boot lickers?

Yeah, you think the corruption was bad in Donnie the Felon's first term? Brainworm Kennedy says here, hold my beer

Worms for brains isn't going to hold a candle to what Elon does. Elon is gonna fuck things up big time.
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Post by Heat Miser 2024-11-06, 13:48

Embrace the fascism boys. Let's not do it half assed. The people have spoken. Give them what they want. They deserve it.
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Post by Floyd Robertson 2024-11-06, 13:49

TravelinMan wrote:
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Yeah, you think the corruption was bad in Donnie the Felon's first term? Brainworm Kennedy says here, hold my beer

Worms for brains isn't going to hold a candle to what Elon does. Elon is gonna fuck things up big time.

Elon was already a national security risk. It's going from bad to catastrophic.
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Post by Trapper Gus 2024-11-06, 18:13

I'm going out on another limb here and say that Trump will be forced to dial back his tariffs, which are only an excuse to cut taxes for the rich, anyway and also dial back his plans to reduce departments in the federal government when politicians start screaming as their pet programs are on the chopping block.

Much like his first term the only sure thing is tax cuts for the rich.
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Post by Heat Miser 2024-11-06, 18:28

Trapper Gus wrote:I'm going out on another limb here and say that Trump will be forced to dial back his tariffs, which are only an excuse to cut taxes for the rich, anyway and also dial back his plans to reduce departments in the federal government when politicians start screaming as their pet programs are on the chopping block.

Much like his first term the only sure thing is tax cuts for the rich.

I'm going to be pissed if I don't see millions of brown people deported pronto. Concentration camps & cattle cars bitch. The people have spoken!
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Post by Trapper Gus 2024-11-06, 18:39

Heat Miser wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:I'm going out on another limb here and say that Trump will be forced to dial back his tariffs, which are only an excuse to cut taxes for the rich, anyway and also dial back his plans to reduce departments in the federal government when politicians start screaming as their pet programs are on the chopping block.

Much like his first term the only sure thing is tax cuts for the rich.

I'm going to be pissed if I don't see millions of brown people deported pronto. Concentration camps & cattle cars bitch. The people have spoken!

I totally forgot that one...

There will be deportations until corporations start complaining
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Post by Heat Miser 2024-11-06, 18:45

Trapper Gus wrote:
Heat Miser wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:I'm going out on another limb here and say that Trump will be forced to dial back his tariffs, which are only an excuse to cut taxes for the rich, anyway and also dial back his plans to reduce departments in the federal government when politicians start screaming as their pet programs are on the chopping block.

Much like his first term the only sure thing is tax cuts for the rich.

I'm going to be pissed if I don't see millions of brown people deported pronto. Concentration camps & cattle cars bitch. The people have spoken!

I totally forgot that one...

There will be deportations until corporations start complaining

No excuses. Fascism now! Cruelty is the point. They're eating cats and dogs FFS. We're an occupied country! Our orange savior is going to fix it!
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Post by Three_Putt_Par 2024-11-07, 02:15

RFK is fucking psychopath that shouldn't be anywhere near government. This may be one of the most terrifying things of all.
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Post by Three_Putt_Par 2024-11-07, 02:17

Trapper Gus wrote:I'm going out on another limb here and say that Trump will be forced to dial back his tariffs, which are only an excuse to cut taxes for the rich, anyway and also dial back his plans to reduce departments in the federal government when politicians start screaming as their pet programs are on the chopping block.

Much like his first term the only sure thing is tax cuts for the rich.

This is one time I hope the free market/libertarian types get in his ear and prevent the tariffs.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2024-11-07, 08:05

it's almost like republicans/libertarians have contempt for America, Americans and the Constitution....scratch
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Post by Heat Miser 2024-11-07, 08:50

Three_Putt_Par wrote:RFK is fucking psychopath that shouldn't be anywhere near government. This may be one of the most terrifying things of all.

Three_Putt_Par wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:I'm going out on another limb here and say that Trump will be forced to dial back his tariffs, which are only an excuse to cut taxes for the rich, anyway and also dial back his plans to reduce departments in the federal government when politicians start screaming as their pet programs are on the chopping block.

Much like his first term the only sure thing is tax cuts for the rich.

This is one time I hope the free market/libertarian types get in his ear and prevent the tariffs.

Sign me up for all of it. I want Americans to get exactly what they voted for. Some very hard lessons need to be learned across the board, and it seems the only way to learn those lessons is thru experience.
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Post by NigelUno 2024-11-07, 08:53

Trapper Gus wrote:I'm going out on another limb here and say that Trump will be forced to dial back his tariffs, which are only an excuse to cut taxes for the rich, anyway and also dial back his plans to reduce departments in the federal government when politicians start screaming as their pet programs are on the chopping block.

Much like his first term the only sure thing is tax cuts for the rich.

If his threats get China to drop some of their tariffs, that will be a good thing.

But, I'll believe that when I see it.
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Post by DWags 2024-11-07, 09:22

Heat Miser wrote:
Three_Putt_Par wrote:RFK is fucking psychopath that shouldn't be anywhere near government. This may be one of the most terrifying things of all.

Three_Putt_Par wrote:

This is one time I hope the free market/libertarian types get in his ear and prevent the tariffs.

Sign me up for all of it. I want Americans to get exactly what they voted for. Some very hard lessons need to be learned across the board, and it seems the only way to learn those lessons is thru experience.


Why do I get the feeling that, when it happens, and it will, the left gets the blame, and somehow his sycophants believe it.
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Post by The Pantry 2024-11-07, 09:32

Reduction of government should start with the IRS. The tax code has been in dire need of simplification for decades. Instead, it has gotten more complicated every year. Should be an adjusted (by income) flat rate, with adjustments for disabilities, etc. With no more loopholes, taxes could be calculated on a fairly simple spreadsheet.

Not that it matters. Looked up the composition of the IRS workforce and was astounded at the number of minorities and women employed, far beyond normal demographics.

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Post by Heat Miser 2024-11-07, 09:34

DWags wrote:
Heat Miser wrote:
Three_Putt_Par wrote:RFK is fucking psychopath that shouldn't be anywhere near government. This may be one of the most terrifying things of all.

Three_Putt_Par wrote:

This is one time I hope the free market/libertarian types get in his ear and prevent the tariffs.

Sign me up for all of it. I want Americans to get exactly what they voted for. Some very hard lessons need to be learned across the board, and it seems the only way to learn those lessons is thru experience.


Why do I get the feeling that, when it happens, and it will, the left gets the blame, and somehow his sycophants believe it.

Empires rise and fall. We had a good run. 250 years is nothing to sneeze at.
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Post by TravelinMan 2024-11-07, 09:37

The Pantry wrote:Reduction of government should start with the IRS. The tax code has been in dire need of simplification for decades. Instead, it has gotten more complicated every year. Should be an adjusted (by income) flat rate, with adjustments for disabilities, etc. With no more loopholes, taxes could be calculated on a fairly simple spreadsheet.

Not that it matters. Looked up the composition of the IRS workforce and was astounded at the number of minorities and women employed, far beyond normal demographics.

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Tell me the Fed is #2 right after the IRS, and you have an ally for life.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2024-11-07, 09:38

DWags wrote:
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Sign me up for all of it. I want Americans to get exactly what they voted for. Some very hard lessons need to be learned across the board, and it seems the only way to learn those lessons is thru experience.


Why do I get the feeling that, when it happens, and it will, the left gets the blame, and somehow his sycophants believe it.
yep - Russia and the mainstream media will always have their ones to blame, and it won't be republicans/libertarians.
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Post by Heat Miser 2024-11-07, 09:50

TravelinMan wrote:
The Pantry wrote:Reduction of government should start with the IRS. The tax code has been in dire need of simplification for decades. Instead, it has gotten more complicated every year. Should be an adjusted (by income) flat rate, with adjustments for disabilities, etc. With no more loopholes, taxes could be calculated on a fairly simple spreadsheet.

Not that it matters. Looked up the composition of the IRS workforce and was astounded at the number of minorities and women employed, far beyond normal demographics.

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Tell me the Fed is #2 right after the IRS, and you have an ally for life.

We'll take all the money we save and "invest" it in the military, ICE, CBP, DHS, etc. More badges. More guns. More surveillance. 1984 baby. Let's fucking go!
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Post by TravelinMan 2024-11-07, 09:53

Heat Miser wrote:
TravelinMan wrote:

Tell me the Fed is #2 right after the IRS, and you have an ally for life.

We'll take all the money we save and "invest" it in the military, ICE, CBP, DHS, etc. More badges. More guns. More surveillance. 1984 baby. Let's fucking go!

Huh, and your new schtick is getting old already? Amazing...
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Post by NigelUno 2024-11-07, 09:59

The Pantry wrote:Reduction of government should start with the IRS. The tax code has been in dire need of simplification for decades. Instead, it has gotten more complicated every year. Should be an adjusted (by income) flat rate, with adjustments for disabilities, etc. With no more loopholes, taxes could be calculated on a fairly simple spreadsheet.

Not that it matters. Looked up the composition of the IRS workforce and was astounded at the number of minorities and women employed, far beyond normal demographics.

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Not that it matters…

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Post by Heat Miser 2024-11-07, 10:07

TravelinMan wrote:
Heat Miser wrote:
TravelinMan wrote:

Tell me the Fed is #2 right after the IRS, and you have an ally for life.

We'll take all the money we save and "invest" it in the military, ICE, CBP, DHS, etc. More badges. More guns. More surveillance. 1984 baby. Let's fucking go!

Huh, and your new schtick is getting old already?  Amazing...

Not a schtick. The people have spoken. They deserve to get exactly what they voted for.
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Post by TravelinMan 2024-11-07, 10:12

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Huh, and your new schtick is getting old already?  Amazing...

Not a schtick. The people have spoken. They deserve to get exactly what they voted for.

That's just obnoxious and unfunny.
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Post by Heat Miser 2024-11-07, 10:19

TravelinMan wrote:
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Huh, and your new schtick is getting old already?  Amazing...

Not a schtick. The people have spoken. They deserve to get exactly what they voted for.

That's just obnoxious and unfunny.

It wasn't meant to be funny.
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Post by sεяεηιτλ 2024-11-07, 10:24

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Trapper Gus wrote:I'm going out on another limb here and say that Trump will be forced to dial back his tariffs, which are only an excuse to cut taxes for the rich, anyway and also dial back his plans to reduce departments in the federal government when politicians start screaming as their pet programs are on the chopping block.

Much like his first term the only sure thing is tax cuts for the rich.

This is one time I hope the free market/libertarian types get in his ear and prevent the tariffs.

Its funny that people believed him when he said Kamala Harris higher prices, trump lower prices but also his biggest plan is more tariffs.

This country is doomed. Make some back up plans to go elsewhere. I hear Portugal is a pretty reasonable place.
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Post by Heat Miser 2024-11-07, 10:30

sεяεηιτλ wrote:
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Trapper Gus wrote:I'm going out on another limb here and say that Trump will be forced to dial back his tariffs, which are only an excuse to cut taxes for the rich, anyway and also dial back his plans to reduce departments in the federal government when politicians start screaming as their pet programs are on the chopping block.

Much like his first term the only sure thing is tax cuts for the rich.

This is one time I hope the free market/libertarian types get in his ear and prevent the tariffs.

Its funny that people believed him when he said Kamala Harris higher prices, trump lower prices but also his biggest plan is more tariffs.

This country is doomed. Make some back up plans to go elsewhere. I hear Portugal is a pretty reasonable place.

Portugal is #1 on the Miser wish list.
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Post by Trapper Gus 2024-11-07, 11:20

NigelUno wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:I'm going out on another limb here and say that Trump will be forced to dial back his tariffs, which are only an excuse to cut taxes for the rich, anyway and also dial back his plans to reduce departments in the federal government when politicians start screaming as their pet programs are on the chopping block.

Much like his first term the only sure thing is tax cuts for the rich.

If his threats get China to drop some of their tariffs, that will be a good thing.

But, I'll believe that when I see it.

China is a problem all to itself because for decades the Chinese government has been providing the capital, for free, to sectors of industry they want to dominate, globally.

It's how they globally took over steel, auto parts, electronics and now EVs.
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Post by Heat Miser 2024-11-07, 11:29

Trapper Gus wrote:
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Trapper Gus wrote:I'm going out on another limb here and say that Trump will be forced to dial back his tariffs, which are only an excuse to cut taxes for the rich, anyway and also dial back his plans to reduce departments in the federal government when politicians start screaming as their pet programs are on the chopping block.

Much like his first term the only sure thing is tax cuts for the rich.

If his threats get China to drop some of their tariffs, that will be a good thing.

But, I'll believe that when I see it.

China is a problem all to itself because for decades the Chinese government has been providing the capital, for free, to sectors of industry they want to dominate, globally.

It's how they globally took over steel, auto parts, electronics and now EVs.

We've done the same thing with corn and other things. They're called subsidies. And the US govt. gives billions every year for research (AAU, etc.) into all sorts of sectors. The fruits of that research finds it's way into American business.
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Post by Three_Putt_Par 2024-11-07, 11:33

Heat Miser wrote:
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Tell me the Fed is #2 right after the IRS, and you have an ally for life.

We'll take all the money we save and "invest" it in the military, ICE, CBP, DHS, etc. More badges. More guns. More surveillance. 1984 baby. Let's fucking go!

Those military parades are gonna be sick tho bro!
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Post by Floyd Robertson 2024-11-07, 11:34

Say goodbye to the DOE, hello school of choice and prayer in the classroom.

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Post by Heat Miser 2024-11-07, 11:35

Three_Putt_Par wrote:
Heat Miser wrote:
TravelinMan wrote:

Tell me the Fed is #2 right after the IRS, and you have an ally for life.

We'll take all the money we save and "invest" it in the military, ICE, CBP, DHS, etc. More badges. More guns. More surveillance. 1984 baby. Let's fucking go!

Those military parades are gonna be sick tho bro!

Maybe they'll come up with a special style of marching! Maybe even a new form of salute! Maybe a catchphrase to go with it! It's gonna be really fucking cool.
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Post by Trapper Gus 2024-11-07, 11:37

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China is a problem all to itself because for decades the Chinese government has been providing the capital, for free, to sectors of industry they want to dominate, globally.

It's how they globally took over steel, auto parts, electronics and now EVs.

We've done the same thing with corn and other things. They're called subsidies. And the US govt. gives billions every year for research (AAU, etc.) into all sorts of sectors. The fruits of that research finds it's way into American business.

The government doesn't provide the capital to agribusiness like in China.  Yes there are all sorts of programs which encourage farming, and we all need food so that makes some sense.

If you are running a car company and don't have to pay for the buildings, the land or the equipment to build the cars with you can sell those cars for much less.
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Post by DWags 2024-11-07, 11:41

Floyd Robertson wrote:Say goodbye to the DOE, hello school of choice and prayer in the classroom.

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Jesus. So glad Im out of that business.
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Post by Floyd Robertson 2024-11-07, 11:44

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Floyd Robertson wrote:Say goodbye to the DOE, hello school of choice and prayer in the classroom.

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Jesus.  So glad Im out of that business.

There's already a teacher shortage, right? This isn't going to help with that.

We'll just raise kids to be barefoot and pregnant again.
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Post by TravelinMan 2024-11-07, 11:53

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Jesus.  So glad Im out of that business.

There's already a teacher shortage, right? This isn't going to help with that.

We'll just raise kids to be barefoot and pregnant again.

School is overrated anyway. We can use child labor to replace all the migrants we deport.
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Post by Heat Miser 2024-11-07, 11:54

TravelinMan wrote:
Floyd Robertson wrote:
DWags wrote:


Jesus.  So glad Im out of that business.

There's already a teacher shortage, right? This isn't going to help with that.

We'll just raise kids to be barefoot and pregnant again.

School is overrated anyway. We can use child labor to replace all the migrants we deport.

Now you're on to something.
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Post by sεяεηιτλ 2024-11-07, 12:42

Floyd Robertson wrote:Say goodbye to the DOE, hello school of choice and prayer in the classroom.

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This is what I'm talking about when I've said elsewhere that they are going to push all sorts of crap that helps move kids to the right. School of choice will long term take away power from the cities. Prayer will spread like a disease and again brainwash kids into moving right. They have a fucking disgusting long term plan. We have lost if he manages to do a lot in 2 years, 4 if we can't win back house or Senate
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