OT: Don't know if Trump's run is coming to an end, but it's been great so far!!

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:IB Fine and Goose seem to correlate with thinking that Trump is a moron, racist, etc with liking Obama.

Kind of portrays today's politics well. No middle ground, just hate.

Yah...you can thank the great divider for that one.

I've never seen a sitting US president attack and name call people who disagree with him moreso than Obama.  He's an embarrassment to the office and his pathetic lack of leadership is disgraceful.

But what did you expect?  The country voted for someone that was a community organizer brought up in one of the the most corrupt/extreme political environments anywhere.  All he knows is bullying, name calling, and lying to achieve his goals.  And now you see it in American society...more divisive than ever.

I dont even like Trump...but I support him because our political system is a fucking joke. The funny thing is that liberals hate him even though Trump is pretty much a Democrat.

Im holding out for the small chance that if he gets elected, we'll finally see some wholesale changes to our political process. Campaign finance reform and the shortening of the political season.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:Trump'show popularity really shows how many dumb people there are in this country. Scary.

just in one rally alone there was someone wanting to shoot a black man.. another wanted to "set the motherf**ker on fire", and someone shouted "Sieg Heil"...

so, yeah. Not only are they not terribly bright, but they are also very angry, racist and bigoted.

oh - and they love guns. It's a great combination, right?

Oh bob, you're such a shill...

The_Dude wrote:

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:IB Fine and Goose seem to correlate with thinking that Trump is a moron, racist, etc with liking Obama.

Kind of portrays today's politics well. No middle ground, just hate.

Yah...you can thank the great divider for that one.

I've never seen a sitting US president attack and name call people who disagree with him moreso than Obama.  He's an embarrassment to the office and his pathetic lack of leadership is disgraceful.

But what did you expect?  The country voted for someone that was a community organizer brought up in one of the the most corrupt/extreme political environments anywhere.  All he knows is bullying, name calling, and lying to achieve his goals.  And now you see it in American society...more divisive than ever.

I dont even like Trump...but I support him because our political system is a fucking joke. The funny thing is that liberals hate him even though Trump is pretty much a Democrat.

Im holding out for the small chance that if he gets elected, we'll finally see some wholesale changes to our political process. Campaign finance reform and the shortening of the political season.

I don't think most Democrats support hate-filled racist, bigoted and misogynistic speech.

Blanch32 wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:just in one rally alone there was someone wanting to shoot a black man.. another wanted to "set the motherf**ker on fire", and someone shouted "Sieg Heil"...

so, yeah. Not only are they not terribly bright, but they are also very angry, racist and bigoted.

oh - and they love guns. It's a great combination, right?

Oh bob, you're such a shill...

thanks - right back at ya.

Gomer wrote:

I.B. Fine wrote:
....and she's not even very bright, not that it matters to knee-jerk voters.
Just for accuracy sake, besides saying he's against illegal immigrants and allowing un-vetted Muslim immigration, what has Trump said that qualifies him as a a racist, outside of CAIR, La Raza and MSNBC?

Just for accuracy's sake, Trump called for via his own published press release, specifically, "a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States" for an indefinite period of time.

Yea and a ton of people are in in favor of a moratorium on immigration until it is fixed. They don't even check immigrants social media accounts when they come to the United States. See the San Bernardino shootings as a exhibit A.  But he sure is a racist!! Mentions true facts about the criminals crossing the border? RACIST.  Black people illegally disrupting his rally by entering the building (Shocker, we know how well they burn down shit across the country) ? Racist.

Gomer wrote:

I.B. Fine wrote:
....and she's not even very bright, not that it matters to knee-jerk voters.
Just for accuracy sake, besides saying he's against illegal immigrants and allowing un-vetted Muslim immigration, what has Trump said that qualifies him as a a racist, outside of CAIR, La Raza and MSNBC?

Just for accuracy's sake, Trump called for via his own published press release, specifically, "a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States" for an indefinite period of time.

And whats wrong with that? What about the rights for actual American citizens to be safe?

Its a time of war and Obama and his admin have no clue what they are doing...and it is costing actual Americans their lives now.

You know what Democrat hero FDR did to the Japanese that WERE AMERICAN CITIZENS? And we aren't talking about actual American citizens...just putting a halt until we pull our heads out of our asses on Muslim immigration.

Its scary to think how far liberals are willing to go to endanger lives just to push their ideology.

and don't even get met started on the horrific attacks in Benghazi..

The_Dude wrote:

Gomer wrote:

Just for accuracy's sake, Trump called for via his own published press release, specifically, "a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States" for an indefinite period of time.

And whats wrong with that? What about the rights for actual American citizens to be safe?

Its a time of war and Obama and his admin have no clue what they are doing...and it is costing actual Americans their lives now.

You know what Democrat hero FDR did to the Japanese that WERE AMERICAN CITIZENS? And we aren't talking about actual American citizens...just putting a halt until we pull our heads out of our asses on Muslim immigration.

Its scary to think how far liberals are willing to go to endanger lives just to push their ideology.

this brought you by the party who brought you the..... September 11th, 2001 Attacks

Trump is a populist. Plain and simple. He employs dangerous nationalist-like rhetoric to generate emotional support rather than relying on rational policy objectives. He has yet to demonstrate a desire to respect institutional checks on executive power. He would use the executive to serve his personal ambitions, his friends, and to harass opposition. His dream country features some form of "electoral autocracy" not entirely dissimilar from what what Hugo Chavez constructed in Venezuela. Actually, now that I think about it, subtract the socialism and Trump is a capitalist Chavez. I am surprised to see those committed to protecting "essential liberties" throw themselves behind such a power crazed candidate. Trump runs on a dangerous brand of identity politics. When victorious, Trump's brand of identity politics has a habit of deconstructing liberal democracy.

Turtleneck wrote:
Trump is a populist. Plain and simple. He employs dangerous nationalist-like rhetoric to generate emotional support rather than relying on rational policy objectives. He has yet to demonstrate a desire to respect institutional checks on executive power. He would use the executive to serve his personal ambitions, his friends, and to harass opposition. His dream country features some form of "electoral autocracy" not entirely dissimilar from what what Hugo Chavez constructed in Venezuela. Actually, now that I think about it, subtract the socialism and Trump is a capitalist Chavez. I am surprised to see those committed to protecting "essential liberties" throw themselves behind such a power crazed candidate. Trump runs on a dangerous brand of identity politics. When victorious, Trump's brand of identity politics identity has a habit of deconstructing liberal democracy.

because they don't support the Constitution and "essential liberties" - they merely detest and resent their country so much because it affords opportunity for everyone.. not just those who they self-identify with.

SpartanDawgs265 wrote:

Gomer wrote:

Just for accuracy's sake, Trump called for via his own published press release, specifically, "a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States" for an indefinite period of time.

Yea and a ton of people are in in favor of a moratorium on immigration until it is fixed. They don't even check immigrants social media accounts when they come to the United States. See the San Bernardino shootings as a exhibit A.  But he sure is a racist!! Mentions true facts about the criminals crossing the border? RACIST.  Black people illegally disrupting his rally by entering the building (Shocker, we know how well they burn down shit across the country) ? Racist.

Name calling is all they have left...they were all duped and lied to by the cool black guy...now his presidency is going down in flames...arguably the worst in modern history (him or Carter) and one of the absolute worse in American history.

Americans are now dead because of his extremely ignorant policies..economy cant grow or create new jobs..blacks are now worse off after 8 years of his presidency than they were when he took office (this is truly mind boggling how blacks are worse off under the first black potus)..so after 8 years of failure after failure...all you have left is to deflect and name call. There are no merits they can rely on. Just racist this, racist that.

Look at Bob's or Jims posts...thats what the typical leftist has been reduced to after having their great hope be reduced to a pile of shit. Not only are non leftists bitter about the past 8 years of failure, leftists are becoming bitter. Obamas presidency is coming to an end...and they have nothing to show for it but massive failures.

But they will never admit they are wrong about Obama...they are too emotionally and personally invested in it.

Turtleneck wrote:Trump is a populist. Plain and simple. He employs dangerous nationalist-like rhetoric to generate emotional support rather than relying on rational policy objectives. He has yet to demonstrate a desire to respect institutional checks on executive power. He would use the executive to serve his personal ambitions, his friends, and to harass opposition. His dream country features some form of "electoral autocracy" not entirely dissimilar from what what Hugo Chavez constructed in Venezuela. Actually, now that I think about it, subtract the socialism and Trump is a capitalist Chavez. I am surprised to see those committed to protecting "essential liberties" throw themselves behind such a power crazed candidate. Trump runs on a dangerous brand of identity politics. When victorious, Trump's brand of identity politics has a habit of deconstructing liberal democracy.

It sounds cool...but it sounds like you copy and pasted that from some liberal blog that uses big words and analogies but have no idea really wtf you're talking about.

Try again, I guess.

It also sounded like you just described Hilary to a T...power hungry, runs behind dangerous identity politics, serves her friends while oppressing her enemies. The difference is she is bought and paid for...Donald, not so much.

The other difference is...this is your own butthurt speculation about Trump. We all know for a fact Hilary is those things you just said...because shes done it time and time again.

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:IB Fine and Goose seem to correlate with thinking that Trump is a moron, racist, etc with liking Obama.

Kind of portrays today's politics well. No middle ground, just hate.

I don't know how I got lumped into this one. I think Trump is a jackass and Obama is a failed president, does that mean I like Obama? Of course thinking he's a failure doesn't mean I hate him though some do make that leap. I think Bob's a failure as a comedian, but I don't hate him for that.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

The_Dude wrote:


And whats wrong with that? What about the rights for actual American citizens to be safe?

Its a time of war and Obama and his admin have no clue what they are doing...and it is costing actual Americans their lives now.

You know what Democrat hero FDR did to the Japanese that WERE AMERICAN CITIZENS? And we aren't talking about actual American citizens...just putting a halt until we pull our heads out of our asses on Muslim immigration.

Its scary to think how far liberals are willing to go to endanger lives just to push their ideology.

this brought you by the party who brought you the......September 11th, 2001 Attacks

You mean that party that held the Presidency for the 8 years leading up to the attacks? The party that refused multiple chances to take out Bin Laden. Pretty weak effort Bob.

The_Dude wrote:

SpartanDawgs265 wrote:

Yea and a ton of people are in in favor of a moratorium on immigration until it is fixed. They don't even check immigrants social media accounts when they come to the United States. See the San Bernardino shootings as a exhibit A.  But he sure is a racist!! Mentions true facts about the criminals crossing the border? RACIST.  Black people illegally disrupting his rally by entering the building (Shocker, we know how well they burn down shit across the country) ? Racist.

Name calling is all they have left...they were all duped and lied to by the cool black guy...now his presidency is going down in flames...arguably the worst in modern history (him or Carter) and one of the absolute worse in American history.

Americans are now dead because of his extremely ignorant policies..economy cant grow or create new jobs..blacks are now worse off after 8 years of his presidency than they were when he took office (this is truly mind boggling how blacks are worse off under the first black potus)..so after 8 years of failure after failure...all you have left is to deflect and name call. There are no merits they can rely on. Just racist this, racist that.

Look at Bob's or Jims posts...thats what the typical leftist has been reduced to after having their great hope be reduced to a pile of shit. Not only are non leftists bitter about the past 8 years of failure, leftists are becoming bitter. Obamas presidency is coming to an end...and they have nothing to show for it but massive failures.

But they will never admit they are wrong about Obama...they are too emotionally and personally invested in it.

nice try but Obama has been a phenomenal president.. especially during his second term..

though I will say that I appreciate your attempt to voice my opinion for me..

Hillary and Obama suck.  Just like Osama bin Laden’s 1997 declaration of war against America received little media attention, so too did the Muslim Brotherhood’s 2010 war declaration against America by its Supreme leader Muhammad Badi. Badi called for jihad against the Muslim’s  enemies, not only Israel but also the United States. Not only did Obama and Clinton throw a party for their take over of our long time ally Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, Hillary's closest aid Huma Abedin, has enjoyed an intensely close relationship with the Brotherhood for decades.  Wow, what a great group of people.  Republicans will have no problem winning the election once all the skeletons are out on the table.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

The_Dude wrote:

Name calling is all they have left...they were all duped and lied to by the cool black guy...now his presidency is going down in flames...arguably the worst in modern history (him or Carter) and one of the absolute worse in American history.

Americans are now dead because of his extremely ignorant policies..economy cant grow or create new jobs..blacks are now worse off after 8 years of his presidency than they were when he took office (this is truly mind boggling how blacks are worse off under the first black potus)..so after 8 years of failure after failure...all you have left is to deflect and name call. There are no merits they can rely on. Just racist this, racist that.

Look at Bob's or Jims posts...thats what the typical leftist has been reduced to after having their great hope be reduced to a pile of shit. Not only are non leftists bitter about the past 8 years of failure, leftists are becoming bitter. Obamas presidency is coming to an end...and they have nothing to show for it but massive failures.

But they will never admit they are wrong about Obama...they are too emotionally and personally invested in it.

nice try but Obama has been a phenomenal president.. especially during his second term..

Repeating lies doesn't make it true, Bob.

But its easier to put your hands in your ears than it is to accept a difficult reality.

SpartanDawgs265 wrote:Hillary and Obama suck.  Just like Osama bin Laden’s 1997 declaration of war against America received little media attention, so too did the Muslim Brotherhood’s 2010 war declaration against America by its Supreme Guide, Muhammad Badi. Badi called for jihad against the Muslim’s  enemies, not only Israel but also the United States. Not only did Obama and Clinton throw a party for their take over of our long time ally Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, Hillary's closest aid Huma Abedin, has enjoyed an intensely close relationship with the Brotherhood for decades.  Wow, what a great group of people.  Republicans will have no problem winning the election once all the skeletons are out on the table.

you forgot Benghazi.. and.. The Death of Michael Jackson - The King of Pop

The_Dude wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:nice try but Obama has been a phenomenal president.. especially during his second term..

Repeating lies doesn't make it true, Bob.

But its easier to put your hands in your ears than it is to accept a difficult reality.

okay..

How is it even possible that under the first black potus, blacks are worse off than they were before he got office?

How is that even conceivable?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/mar/29/armstrong-williams-blacks-lose-progress-under-obam/

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

The_Dude wrote:


Repeating lies doesn't make it true, Bob.

But its easier to put your hands in your ears than it is to accept a difficult reality.

okay..

You seriously cannot make this up...


"That trend has not held under the Obama administration. In all three measures covered under the study — poverty, income and unemployment — blacks have fared worse under the Obama administration than under the previous administration"

The_Dude wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:okay..

You seriously cannot make this up...


"That trend has not held under the Obama administration. In all three measures covered under the study — poverty, income and unemployment — blacks have fared worse under the Obama administration than under the previous administration"

you seem unusually angry today.. seriously. Everything okay?

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

The_Dude wrote:

You seriously cannot make this up...


"That trend has not held under the Obama administration. In all three measures covered under the study — poverty, income and unemployment — blacks have fared worse under the Obama administration than under the previous administration"

you seem unusually angry today.. seriously. Everything okay?

Trump will save the blacks. - The Dude

LooseGoose wrote:

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:IB Fine and Goose seem to correlate with thinking that Trump is a moron, racist, etc with liking Obama.

Kind of portrays today's politics well. No middle ground, just hate.

I don't know how I got lumped into this one.  I think Trump is a jackass and Obama is a failed president, does that mean I like Obama?  Of course thinking he's a failure doesn't mean I hate him though some do make that leap.  I think Bob's a failure as a comedian, but I don't hate him for that.

I'd have to guess we've compromised his "Safe Zone"
It can be frightening to use critical thinking skills.


By the way, I'm currently solidly in the camp of 'none of the above', thank you, very much.

oh - after spending nearly 8 years criminalizing them, mocking them, advocating that they receive no healthcare, enacting voter ID laws, defunding public schools, etc.. republicans are suddenly concerned with the well-being of black people..  

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

The_Dude wrote:

You seriously cannot make this up...


"That trend has not held under the Obama administration. In all three measures covered under the study — poverty, income and unemployment — blacks have fared worse under the Obama administration than under the previous administration"

you seem unusually angry today.. seriously. Everything okay?

Pretty crazy you can say his presidency has been great...when black people are worse off under him than they were with W.  Astounding, actually, if you truly think about it.

The_Dude wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:you seem unusually angry today.. seriously. Everything okay?

Im bringing a gun to a knife fight...owning delusional libs is a hobby of mine.

Im sure you are the other libs will have a well thought out answer to blame Republicans on why blacks are worse off under the first black potus than they were under George W...or just like Obama, you'll deflect and give a non answer.

Pretty crazy you can say his presidency has been great...when black people are worse off under him than they were with W. Astounding, actually, if you truly think about it.

the black population appreciates your republican concern, I'm sure.. which is why they consistently support the Democrat candidate 80% of the time...

I.B. Fine wrote:

LooseGoose wrote:

I don't know how I got lumped into this one.  I think Trump is a jackass and Obama is a failed president, does that mean I like Obama?  Of course thinking he's a failure doesn't mean I hate him though some do make that leap.  I think Bob's a failure as a comedian, but I don't hate him for that.

I'd have to guess we've compromised his "Safe Zone"
It can be frightening to use critical thinking skills.


By the way, I'm currently solidly in the camp of 'none of the above', thank you, very much.

Some guy who is defending Trump is talking about "critical thinking skills"

this likely speaks to why there is so much anger coming from the right...

Blacks Outvoted Whites in 2012 - For the First Time in History

quick! Voter ID laws!!!

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

I.B. Fine wrote:
I'd have to guess we've compromised his "Safe Zone"
It can be frightening to use critical thinking skills.


By the way, I'm currently solidly in the camp of 'none of the above', thank you, very much.

Some guy who is defending Trump is talking about "critical thinking skills"

Mr. Lebowski - since when did you start caring about the "black animals"?

The_Dude wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
you seem unusually angry today.. seriously. Everything okay?

Pretty crazy you can say his presidency has been great...when black people are worse off under him than they were with W.  Astounding, actually, if you truly think about it.

He has preformed just the way you would expect a rabble rousing community organizer to preform.
Unfortunately that is not what the job description calls for.

The_Dude wrote:

Turtleneck wrote:Trump is a populist. Plain and simple. He employs dangerous nationalist-like rhetoric to generate emotional support rather than relying on rational policy objectives. He has yet to demonstrate a desire to respect institutional checks on executive power. He would use the executive to serve his personal ambitions, his friends, and to harass opposition. His dream country features some form of "electoral autocracy" not entirely dissimilar from what what Hugo Chavez constructed in Venezuela. Actually, now that I think about it, subtract the socialism and Trump is a capitalist Chavez. I am surprised to see those committed to protecting "essential liberties" throw themselves behind such a power crazed candidate. Trump runs on a dangerous brand of identity politics. When victorious, Trump's brand of identity politics has a habit of deconstructing liberal democracy.

It sounds cool...but it sounds like you copy and pasted that from some liberal blog that uses big words and analogies but have no idea really wtf you're talking about.

Try again, I guess.

It also sounded like you just described Hilary to a T...power hungry, runs behind dangerous identity politics, serves her friends while oppressing her enemies.  The difference is she is bought and paid for...Donald, not so much.

The other difference is...this is your own butthurt speculation about Trump. We all know for a fact Hilary is those things you just said...because shes done it time and time again.

Not copied from anywhere. My own thoughts. I am sorry my thoughts, and the associated concepts expressed in my post, are too complex for you. Your claim that I do not know what I am talking about, and your attempt to misrepresent my words through the rest of your post (clearly you do not know what is meant by identity politics in this case), just shows you are not the astute reader of politics you pretend to be.

I.B. Fine wrote:

The_Dude wrote:


Pretty crazy you can say his presidency has been great...when black people are worse off under him than they were with W.  Astounding, actually, if you truly think about it.

He has preformed just the way you would expect a rabble rousing community organizer to preform.
Unfortunately that is not what the job description calls for.

the job description definitely doesn't call for a preformer.

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

I.B. Fine wrote:
I'd have to guess we've compromised his "Safe Zone"
It can be frightening to use critical thinking skills.


By the way, I'm currently solidly in the camp of 'none of the above', thank you, very much.

Some guy who is defending Trump is talking about "critical thinking skills"

I didn't defend, I merely asked for some substance to your parroted notions. I am still waiting.
As I stated earlier, there are plenty of actual reasons to dislike Trump.
You sure you graduated? from MSU?

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

The_Dude wrote:

Im bringing a gun to a knife fight...owning delusional libs is a hobby of mine.

Im sure you are the other libs will have a well thought out answer to blame Republicans on why blacks are worse off under the first black potus than they were under George W...or just like Obama, you'll deflect and give a non answer.

Pretty crazy you can say his presidency has been great...when black people are worse off under him than they were with W.  Astounding, actually, if you truly think about it.

the black population appreciates your republican concern, I'm sure.. which is why they consistently support the Democrat candidate 80% of the time...

Yea black libs support dem's because of the government welfare, unemployment, food stamps etc. They also freely call all black conservatives Uncle Toms (officials too). Liberals have achieved what they wanted all along.  They have made a portion of the country dependent on the government and made them extremely entitled along the way. Young people favor liberals because they hand out free stuff when they are broke.  As for Trump, he opened a member's club in Miami in the 1990s. He insisted on accepting black and Jewish patrons even though the prevailing atmosphere was hostile to both groups.  Real racist, he might actually put black people to work.  It must be because he is so successful in business that liberals hate him.  I want Hillary as President who claimed she was broke when she left the White House for publicity

Turtleneck wrote:

The_Dude wrote:


It sounds cool...but it sounds like you copy and pasted that from some liberal blog that uses big words and analogies but have no idea really wtf you're talking about.

Try again, I guess.

It also sounded like you just described Hilary to a T...power hungry, runs behind dangerous identity politics, serves her friends while oppressing her enemies.  The difference is she is bought and paid for...Donald, not so much.

The other difference is...this is your own butthurt speculation about Trump. We all know for a fact Hilary is those things you just said...because shes done it time and time again.

Not copied from anywhere. My own thoughts. I am sorry my thoughts, and the associated concepts expressed in my post, are too complex for you. Your claim that I do not know what I am talking about, and your attempt to misrepresent my words through the rest of your post (clearly you do not know what is mean by identity politics in the case), just shows you are not the astute reader of politics you pretend to be.

like I said a bit ago, The Dude is awfully upset.. he told me what my opinion was and then commenced to do the same with your well-developed, well articulated thoughts.

I think he might need a hug. And to be told that everything will be okay.. despite the blacks.

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Mr. Lebowski - since when did you start caring about the "black animals"?

I care about all Americans and want a better quality of life for everyone...unfortunately, since blacks have become slaves to Dems...their quality of life has gone down, the inner cities have rotted, and black family structure is mind boggling bad.

How is it even remotely possible blacks were better off under W than they are Obama? Seriously though...let that last sentence sink in. Blacks were better off under Bush than they are under Obama...how the...I can't even...

Maybe its because massive handouts and a perpetual victim mentality in reality doesnt help people improve their lives?

Huh, who woulda thunk it.

The_Dude wrote:

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Mr. Lebowski - since when did you start caring about the "black animals"?

I care about all Americans and want a better quality of life for everyone...unfortunately, since blacks have become slaves to Dems...their quality of life has gone down, the inner cities have rotted, and black family structure is mind boggling bad.

How is it even remotely possible blacks were better off under W than they are Obama? Seriously though...let that last sentence sink in. Blacks were better off under Bush than they are under Obama...how the....I can't even...

Maybe its because massive handouts and a perpetual victim mentality in reality doesnt help people improve their lives?

Huh, who woulda thunk it.

like, literally..