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Post by SpartanInNH 2016-01-09, 21:31

Albert Breer wrote:3) Cousins will like the offseason. At one point earlier this season, before the leaves fell, the Washington Redskins weren't planning on using the franchise tag on Kirk Cousins, because of the promise that it fall north of $19 million, depending on where the cap is set. Now? They've come to grips with the fact that they might need to. Per sources, the Redskins intend to execute a blockbuster deal with their new franchise quarterback before the deadline to tag players in early March, but are fully prepared to franchise Cousins if they can't beat the clock. As one source explained it, "He's not getting out of the building." That's a pretty remarkable turn of events, when you consider only three quarterbacks have been franchised this decade -- Peyton Manning (2011), Mike Vick (2011) and Drew Brees (2012) -- and Cousins wasn't even the starter coming out of training camp. Thing is, he's answered pretty much every question there is to answer since then. He broke a 29-year-old club record with 4,166 yards passing, threw 29 touchdown passes, led the NFL in completion percentage (69.8), guided the team to a division title and cut way down on his turnovers, throwing just 11 picks on 543 attempts after throwing nine interceptions on 204 attempts last season. What's he worth on the open market? It's worth looking at the 2014 extension received by Andy Dalton (Jay Gruden's QB in Cincinnati), which has a base value of $96 million over six years, $19 million in additional upside and is structured in a year-to-year manner. Cousins played his rookie deal out, while Dalton got his extension with a year left, but Dalton had a longer track record of success when his new deal was executed than Cousins does now. And you can add two years of inflation, too. Still, this is a pretty good issue for the Redskins to have going forward. After four years, it looks like they did get their quarterback out of the 2012 draft. It's just not the one they invested so deeply in then.

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Albert Breer wrote:3) Cousins will like the offseason. At one point earlier this season, before the leaves fell, the Washington Redskins weren't planning on using the franchise tag on Kirk Cousins, because of the promise that it fall north of $19 million, depending on where the cap is set. Now? They've come to grips with the fact that they might need to. Per sources, the Redskins intend to execute a blockbuster deal with their new franchise quarterback before the deadline to tag players in early March, but are fully prepared to franchise Cousins if they can't beat the clock. As one source explained it, "He's not getting out of the building." That's a pretty remarkable turn of events, when you consider only three quarterbacks have been franchised this decade -- Peyton Manning (2011), Mike Vick (2011) and Drew Brees (2012) -- and Cousins wasn't even the starter coming out of training camp. Thing is, he's answered pretty much every question there is to answer since then. He broke a 29-year-old club record with 4,166 yards passing, threw 29 touchdown passes, led the NFL in completion percentage (69.8), guided the team to a division title and cut way down on his turnovers, throwing just 11 picks on 543 attempts after throwing nine interceptions on 204 attempts last season. What's he worth on the open market? It's worth looking at the 2014 extension received by Andy Dalton (Jay Gruden's QB in Cincinnati), which has a base value of $96 million over six years, $19 million in additional upside and is structured in a year-to-year manner. Cousins played his rookie deal out, while Dalton got his extension with a year left, but Dalton had a longer track record of success when his new deal was executed than Cousins does now. And you can add two years of inflation, too. Still, this is a pretty good issue for the Redskins to have going forward. After four years, it looks like they did get their quarterback out of the 2012 draft. It's just not the one they invested so deeply in then.

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I'm liking the sound of the "Kirk Cousins Family Spartan Stadium East Grand Stand Athletic Support Pavillion."
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Post by NigelUno 2016-01-10, 08:58

Is Shanahan a genius for drafting him?  And will it (help) get him another job?

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/18906859/mike-shanahan-says-drafting-kirk-cousins-was-a-steal

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Post by Nordic 2016-01-10, 19:32

Bump...playing like Hoyer
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Post by tanfan! 2016-01-10, 19:40

Nordic wrote:Bump...playing like Hoyer

Fire someone!
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Post by duffy munn 2016-01-10, 20:44

Nordic wrote:Bump...playing like Hoyer

Not even close.
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Post by duffy munn 2016-01-10, 20:46

Tanfan! wrote:
Nordic wrote:Bump...playing like Hoyer

Fire someone!

Yep. Anastos. Too bad apologists like you that embrace mediocrity want to keep him around. optimist, bonar.
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Post by GRR Spartan 2016-01-10, 20:54

Redskins had the 31st defense against the run and the 2nd half showed it. Gave up 140 yards to 3 players for 2 TD's .

Cousins 29-46 0 INT's 1 TD 329 yards franchise tag. Major fail
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Post by steveschneider 2016-01-10, 20:57

GRR Spartan wrote:Redskins had the 31st defense against the run and the 2nd half showed it. Gave up 140 yards to 3 players for 2 TD's .

Cousins 29-46 0 INT's 1 TD 329 yards franchise tag. Major fail

His receivers were blanketed in the 4th. Packers played great d and ran the ball well.
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Post by GRR Spartan 2016-01-22, 22:17

http://www.redskins.com/news-and-events/article-1/Kirk-Cousins-Named-NFL’s-2015-Most-Improved-Player/4c580b8d-0b51-4f6e-b293-242b650e3244
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Post by SpartanInNH 2016-01-23, 07:37

GRR Spartan wrote:http://www.redskins.com/news-and-events/article-1/Kirk-Cousins-Named-NFL’s-2015-Most-Improved-Player/4c580b8d-0b51-4f6e-b293-242b650e3244

Nice read. Thanks for posting.
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Chris Cooley: Robert Griffin III ‘was never willing to be friends with Kirk Cousins’
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Post by SpartanInNH 2016-03-09, 22:32

LooseGoose wrote:Chris Cooley: Robert Griffin III ‘was never willing to be friends with Kirk Cousins’

“Robert was never willing to be friends with Kirk Cousins,” Cooley said. “They never hung out together, they never spent time together, their families didn’t hang out together. … It was never a great relationship. I don’t think Robert ever wanted it to be a great relationship. And I think it became really contentious over the last two years, to where Rex Grossman, a guy who I’m close with, said ‘This is weird in here. This is a bad situation in here. These guys don’t like each other.’

“Colt McCoy had to deal with some stuff,” Cooley said. “Two years of who should be the starter, constant competition between a guy who doesn’t want to handle competition. And I think there was respect. I think there was enough working respect. But you have to understand, there’s a group of quarterbacks on every team, usually three, sometimes two. There’s a quarterbacks coach. Seventy-five percent of their professional time is spent in just that meeting room. Really. Quarterbacks spend more time [in meetings] than anybody else. Seventy-five percent of their time is spent not talking to each other, in the same room. That’s got to be so hard. You deal with it, but that’s got to be so weird.”

McCoy hinted at some of this to our Mike Jones and Liz Clarke, mentioning the “difficult circumstances” last season, and how “it was one of the most unusual rooms I’ve ever been a part of.”

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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2016-03-10, 10:32

bump..

so glad to see Him shining his loving light through the prism that is Kirk. My thoughts and prayers are always with this fine young man as he navigates the waters of such a tedious world.
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Post by duffy munn 2016-03-10, 11:39

Robert J Sakimano wrote:bump..

so glad to see Him shining his loving light through the prism that is Kirk. My thoughts and prayers are always with this fine young man as he navigates the waters of such a tedious world.

Damn Bob the time off has made you rusty. The lack of directly mocking Kirk's religious beliefs is glaring. Subtle is not going to get it done.

And it's been like years since you mentioned his public speaking ability.

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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2016-03-10, 11:48

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Robert J Sakimano wrote:bump..

so glad to see Him shining his loving light through the prism that is Kirk. My thoughts and prayers are always with this fine young man as he navigates the waters of such a tedious world.

Damn Bob the time off has made you rusty. The lack of directly mocking Kirk's religious beliefs is glaring. Subtle is not going to get it done.

And it's been like years since you mentioned his public speaking ability.

you got more upset at me for mentioning his astounding ability to communicate than discussing his religious beliefs. So I was able to adjust my commentary.

Either way, He simply reached down and touched Kirk with more.. and we're all the better for it.
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Post by duffy munn 2016-03-10, 11:56

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
duffy munn wrote:

Damn Bob the time off has made you rusty. The lack of directly mocking Kirk's religious beliefs is glaring. Subtle is not going to get it done.

And it's been like years since you mentioned his public speaking ability.

you got more upset at me for mentioning his astounding ability to communicate than discussing his religious beliefs. So I was able to adjust my commentary.

Either way, He simply reached down and touched Kirk with more.. and we're all the better for it.

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Post by Guest 2016-10-27, 12:00

I don't miss Blanch.

Kirk Cousins has a good reason for wearing sunglasses at night

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Kirk Cousins is a competitor. He will do whatever it takes to help the Washington Redskins win. For this week, with the team headed off to London to play the Cincinnati Bengals, Cousins is preparing in every way possible.

Remember, there is a big time zone difference (five hours ahead), and that requires some major sleep changes,
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Post by Floyd Robertson 2016-10-30, 18:00

38 / 56 458 2 TD 1 INT in that stupid tie this morning.
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Post by Death Roe 2016-10-30, 18:03

Josh Norman just blew up one of the referees from the game. He's gonna get a YUGE fine.
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Post by Blanch32 2016-10-30, 18:04

Floyd Robertson wrote:38 / 56 458 2 TD 1 INT in that stupid tie this morning.

yea....I might have been wrong with this one.....good for kirk
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Post by DWags 2016-10-30, 18:09

Death Roe wrote:Josh Norman just blew up one of the referees from the game. He's gonna get a YUGE fine.

Physically or verbally?
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Post by GRR Spartan 2016-10-30, 18:23

Cousins has had two great starts with a loss and a tie to show for it.

Through 8 games / 304 yards per game / 12 TD's / 7 INT

Can't fault Cousins for the defense allowing the Lions to score a TD with less than 2 minutes left last week and a FG kicker with the with the yips this week.
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Post by Death Roe 2016-10-30, 18:39

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Death Roe wrote:Josh Norman just blew up one of the referees from the game. He's gonna get a YUGE fine.

Physically or verbally?

Ripped him apart in the post-game presser.
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Post by tGreenWay 2016-10-30, 20:43

Death Roe wrote:
DWags wrote:

Physically or verbally?

Ripped him apart in the post-game presser.

Again, physically or verbally? Are we talking Bobby Knight vs official or Alien vs Bishop?
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Post by Death Roe 2016-10-30, 21:16

tGreenWay wrote:
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Ripped him apart in the post-game presser.

Again, physically or verbally?  Are we talking Bobby Knight vs official or Alien vs Bishop?

Tore him a new one post-game.
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Post by GRR Spartan 2016-11-14, 10:15

Its put up or shut up time


http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/kirk-cousins-looming-payday-is-enough-to-make-dan-snyder-say-oooo-wee/
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2016-11-14, 11:23

Kirk Cousins just makes me swell with pride.

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Post by Tim Wakefield 2016-11-14, 11:40

Robert J Sakimano wrote:Kirk Cousins just makes me SWILL with pride.


Woah he has trouble with the pun!
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! 2016-11-14, 11:43

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Robert J Sakimano wrote:Kirk Cousins just makes me SWILL with pride.


Woah he has trouble with the pun!

And the snark is free! It's picked up by Spartan Swill's Tim Wakefield, and he scORes on the last post of the thread!
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2016-11-14, 12:09

Tim Wakefield wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:Kirk Cousins just makes me SWILL with pride.


Woah he has trouble with the pun!
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Post by Rocinante 2016-11-14, 12:16

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Floyd Robertson wrote:38 / 56 458 2 TD 1 INT in that stupid tie this morning.

yea....I might have been wrong with this one.....good for kirk

"Trump 'apologizes' for grab them by the pussy"
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Post by Death Roe 2016-11-14, 12:24

Settle down, Roc. Daddy's here.
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Post by tGreenWay 2016-11-14, 13:10

Tim Wakefield wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:Kirk Cousins just makes me SWILL with pride.


Woah he has trouble with the pun!


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Post by Blanch32 2016-11-15, 08:16

ftr, there is still the 2nd half of the season, but so far so good for cousins
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Post by duffy munn 2016-11-15, 08:18

Blanch32 wrote:ftr, there is still the 2nd half of the season, but so far so good for cousins

Admitting you were dead wrong is very difficult for you.
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Post by Blanch32 2016-11-15, 08:23

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Blanch32 wrote:ftr, there is still the 2nd half of the season, but so far so good for cousins

so if the skins finish 5 and 11, I'm somehow not wrong? hell, 8 and 8 snd the jury is still out....

Admitting you were dead wrong is very difficult for you.
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Post by duffy munn 2016-11-20, 23:04

Bump. I wonder if blunch is watching tonight.
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Post by GRR Spartan 2016-11-21, 00:00

Another non starter night for Captain Kirk

21-30 for 375 yards / 3 TD / 0 INT

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