Re: General MSU thread

by **tGreenWay** Tue 13 Jun 2023 - 18:20

Floyd Robertson wrote:I gotta think, that is the weirdest investment a university can make. Maybe there more bizarre instances but this has to be right up there. Med school in Detroit?

Besides, what good did moving to WJR really do for MSU. Owing the building is going to help with that?

Pretty sure WJR moved out of the Fisher Building years ago, but I could be wrong.

Edit: I’m wrong. They’re still there. Maybe they just left the tower.

Edit #2: The only time I listen to WJR is thru an app for Spartan radio broadcasts. I just read that WJR has switched to an all local lineup, at least for prime time. Paul Smith was pulled from the morning drive to an early after slot; Guy Gordon takes over mornings. And it’s bringing back SportsWrap for an hour from 6p-7p. I’m old enough to remember when moves like this would’ve been front page news for a couple of days. Now it’s just… meh.

https://www.dbusiness.com/daily-news/detroits-760-wjr-moves-to-all-local-programming-and-announces-new-shows/

by AvgMSUJoe Tue 13 Jun 2023 - 21:26

Wait, isn't the hospital they are tied into essentially across the highway?

by **Floyd Robertson** Thu 15 Jun 2023 - 5:19

A little discussion from the Daily Detroit podcast

http://sites.libsyn.com/96606/msu-buys-fisher-building-ferndale-parking-lot-battle

by **Trapper Gus** Thu 15 Jun 2023 - 7:00

tGreenWay wrote:
Floyd Robertson wrote:I gotta think, that is the weirdest investment a university can make. Maybe there more bizarre instances but this has to be right up there. Med school in Detroit?

Besides, what good did moving to WJR really do for MSU. Owing the building is going to help with that?

Pretty sure WJR moved out of the Fisher Building years ago, but I could be wrong.

Edit: I’m wrong. They’re still there. Maybe they just left the tower.

Edit #2: The only time I listen to WJR is thru an app for Spartan radio broadcasts. I just read that WJR has switched to an all local lineup, at least for prime time. Paul Smith was pulled from the morning drive to an early after slot; Guy Gordon takes over mornings. And it’s bringing back SportsWrap for an hour from 6p-7p. I’m old enough to remember when moves like this would’ve been front page news for a couple of days. Now it’s just… meh.

https://www.dbusiness.com/daily-news/detroits-760-wjr-moves-to-all-local-programming-and-announces-new-shows/

They really were "The Great Voice of the Great Lakes" when I was a kid in the 1950's & 1960's. Then they sold out to corporate radio and it was a long slide downhill. JP's death was the final nail. I met his son, JP's once trying to buy a car from him, he looked just like his dad.

by **Turtleneck** Thu 15 Jun 2023 - 10:11

LANSING — A pair of former Michigan State University trustees has called for current board member Dianne Byrum to resign over a report that she and her husband underpaid tens of thousands of dollars in property taxes over a decade.

"The Detroit news report about Dianne Byrum's failure to pay her local school mileage tax, claiming homestead exemptions on two houses since 2017, shows she is unfit to govern any education institution," Brian Mosallam and Pat O'Keefe, both trustees emeriti, wrote in the letter.

https://www.lansingstatejournal.com/story/news/local/2023/06/15/dianne-byrum-michigan-state-university-board-resign/70324562007/

by **Turtleneck** Mon 19 Jun 2023 - 12:14

Detroit > Grand Rapids

Academic and research partnerships forged over the past decade in Grand Rapids provided a blueprint for Michigan State University’s recent investments in Detroit.

Specifically, building public-private partnerships that resulted in a health care and research campus along the city’s Medical Mile, along with collaborations with local health systems, helped MSU establish a base away from its East Lansing campus.

Now that same strategy is being applied in Detroit with major real estate investments and health care partnerships.

https://www.crainsgrandrapids.com/news/economic-development/grand-rapids-investments-create-blueprint-for-msu-in-detroit/

by **Floyd Robertson** Mon 19 Jun 2023 - 12:26

Turtleneck wrote:Detroit > Grand Rapids

Academic and research partnerships forged over the past decade in Grand Rapids provided a blueprint for Michigan State University’s recent investments in Detroit.

Specifically, building public-private partnerships that resulted in a health care and research campus along the city’s Medical Mile, along with collaborations with local health systems, helped MSU establish a base away from its East Lansing campus.

Now that same strategy is being applied in Detroit with major real estate investments and health care partnerships.

https://www.crainsgrandrapids.com/news/economic-development/grand-rapids-investments-create-blueprint-for-msu-in-detroit/

Who lost the blueprint to buy Sparrow hospital before u of m could get to it?

by **Turtleneck** Mon 19 Jun 2023 - 12:28

Floyd Robertson wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:Detroit > Grand Rapids

https://www.crainsgrandrapids.com/news/economic-development/grand-rapids-investments-create-blueprint-for-msu-in-detroit/

Who lost the blueprint to buy Sparrow hospital before u of m could get to it?

GreenWay

by AvgMSUJoe Mon 19 Jun 2023 - 17:07

Yeah, just imagine what downtown lansing could be with the investment they are putting everywhere else.

by **tGreenWay** Mon 19 Jun 2023 - 23:01

Turtleneck wrote:
Floyd Robertson wrote:

Who lost the blueprint to buy Sparrow hospital before u of m could get to it?

GreenWay

I gave you a chance to join my consortium of buyers. You were a big baby and didn’t want to sell your stock in Swanson Foods because of your crush on Tucker Carlson.

by **Trapper Gus** Tue 20 Jun 2023 - 7:43

https://www.woodtv.com/news/michigan/new-miss-michigan-will-use-platform-to-advocate-for-arts/

by **GRR Spartan** Tue 20 Jun 2023 - 8:17

Floyd Robertson wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:Detroit > Grand Rapids

https://www.crainsgrandrapids.com/news/economic-development/grand-rapids-investments-create-blueprint-for-msu-in-detroit/

Who lost the blueprint to buy Sparrow hospital before u of m could get to it?

Lots of moving parts. MSU had a relationship with Sparrow. Sparrow leadership was offended when MSU moved its Medical School to GR years ago.

MSU developed closer relationships with Spectrum and Beaumont. They recently merged into CoreWell) and MSU has strong affiliation with Karmanos Cancer Center. MSU invested $450M plus real estate into the new McLaren Lansing General.

University of Michigan Health purchase of Sparrow and GR Metro are business. They needed to buy both to keep a presence in two major markets in the state.

From a medical education standpoint due to the additional medical schools that have opened, both MSU and UofM need spots for their students to do rotations and residencies after graduation. In places like FL, private medical schools are buying spots for their students leaving public medical schools scrambling for places for their students .

by **Trapper Gus** Tue 20 Jun 2023 - 8:24

GRR Spartan wrote:
Floyd Robertson wrote:

Who lost the blueprint to buy Sparrow hospital before u of m could get to it?

Lots of moving parts. MSU had a relationship with Sparrow. Sparrow leadership was offended when MSU moved its Medical School to GR years ago.

MSU developed closer relationships with Spectrum and Beaumont. They recently merged into CoreWell) and MSU has strong affiliation with Karmanos Cancer Center. MSU invested $450M plus real estate into the new McLaren Lansing General.

University of Michigan Health purchase of Sparrow and GR Metro are business. They needed to buy both to keep a presence in two major markets in the state.

From a medical education standpoint due to the additional medical schools that have opened, both MSU and UofM need spots for their students to do rotations and residencies after graduation. In places like FL, private medical schools are buying spots for their students leaving public medical schools scrambling for places for their students .

Don't medical schools place residents nationally, not locally?

by **GRR Spartan** Tue 20 Jun 2023 - 10:42

Residencies are post grad and are applied for much like medical schools. The in hospital department rotations for med school students is a major issue.

Back in the day Michigan had 2 medical school. um started in 1850 then Wayne State in 1869 the MSU almost 100 years later. In the last 20 years Oakland, CMU and WMU have added medical schools. That’s a whole lot more students needing rotations than hospitals.

by **Robert J Sakimano** Tue 20 Jun 2023 - 10:45

Trapper Gus wrote:https://www.woodtv.com/news/michigan/new-miss-michigan-will-use-platform-to-advocate-for-arts/

love this:

She’s using her community service initiative, Arts for All, for “advocating for the arts, educating people about the benefits of it and ensuring that people have the resources to be creative.”

by **Trapper Gus** Tue 20 Jun 2023 - 11:33

GRR Spartan wrote:Residencies are post grad and are applied for much like medical schools. The in hospital department rotations for med school students is a major issue.

Back in the day Michigan had 2 medical school. um started in 1850 then Wayne State in 1869 the MSU almost 100 years later. In the last 20 years Oakland, CMU and WMU have added medical schools. That’s a whole lot more students needing rotations than hospitals.

An ex of one of my kids, UofM med school, did their residency in Seattle, so pretty sure Michigan's med school Doctors can go anywhere, not just in state.

by **GRR Spartan** Tue 20 Jun 2023 - 13:41

Trapper Gus wrote:
GRR Spartan wrote:Residencies are post grad and are applied for much like medical schools. The in hospital department rotations for med school students is a major issue.

Back in the day Michigan had 2 medical school. um started in 1850 then Wayne State in 1869 the MSU almost 100 years later. In the last 20 years Oakland, CMU and WMU have added medical schools. That’s a whole lot more students needing rotations than hospitals.

An ex of one of my kids, UofM med school, did their residency in Seattle, so pretty sure Michigan's med school Doctors can go anywhere, not just in state.

But did your child do their rotations in Chicago, Seattle, San Jose, Austin and OKC?

Residency is like getting into law or business school and some specialties like ophthalmology, dermatology, neurology are crazy competitive.
anesthesiology are very competitive.

by **tGreenWay** Tue 20 Jun 2023 - 17:32

Trapper Gus wrote:https://www.woodtv.com/news/michigan/new-miss-michigan-will-use-platform-to-advocate-for-arts/

Maya’s dad and I were fraternity brothers and housemates at State, going active in the same pledge class. We lost touch after he graduated and went on to med school. You know—life gets in the way. Hearing about his death a couple months ago was a real jolt—the second time within the past year that someone I had close ties to at MSU just dropped dead. Yet another reminder that life is short and tomorrow is promised to none of us.

by **Trapper Gus** Thu 22 Jun 2023 - 8:45

https://www.bridgemi.com/talent-education/michigan-states-breslin-scoreboard-go-sale-coming-weeks

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by Spartytruth Thu 22 Jun 2023 - 9:01

tGreenWay wrote:
Floyd Robertson wrote:I gotta think, that is the weirdest investment a university can make. Maybe there more bizarre instances but this has to be right up there. Med school in Detroit?

Besides, what good did moving to WJR really do for MSU. Owing the building is going to help with that?

Pretty sure WJR moved out of the Fisher Building years ago, but I could be wrong.

Edit: I’m wrong. They’re still there. Maybe they just left the tower.

Edit #2: The only time I listen to WJR is thru an app for Spartan radio broadcasts. I just read that WJR has switched to an all local lineup, at least for prime time. Paul Smith was pulled from the morning drive to an early after slot; Guy Gordon takes over mornings. And it’s bringing back SportsWrap for an hour from 6p-7p. I’m old enough to remember when moves like this would’ve been front page news for a couple of days. Now it’s just… meh.

https://www.dbusiness.com/daily-news/detroits-760-wjr-moves-to-all-local-programming-and-announces-new-shows/

I hear it in scratchy am in my mom's car when I visit. She gets mad when I change it although I cannot even discern what is being said.

by **NigelUno** Thu 22 Jun 2023 - 9:12

Trapper Gus wrote:https://www.bridgemi.com/talent-education/michigan-states-breslin-scoreboard-go-sale-coming-weeks

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I didn't hear about getting a new scoreboard. Usually that stuff has to be approved by the BoT. Maybe Ishbia is getting a new one in Phoenix, and giving us their old one.

by **NigelUno** Thu 22 Jun 2023 - 9:23

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by **tGreenWay** Mon 3 Jul 2023 - 19:51

Great big round of applause for the now-retired Paulette Martis. Paulette worked at MSU for 48 years, the past 33 in athletics. When I first started covering Spartan sports, Paulette was working in Sports Information and her weekly and sometimes daily assistance was invaluable. I always
felt a little bad for her because she was working for the perpetually scowling Ken Hoffman. Hoffman treated outsiders as the enemy; the antithesis of previous MSU SIDs Fred Stabley Sr. and Nick Vista. Whether or not she realized it, Paulette was always the bridge between Stabley and Vista, who were long credited nationally as setting the gold standard for Sport Information Directors. It was something Hoffman was incapable of doing, and Paulette was a natural at it.
I’m so happy she got the recognition she deserved once word got out she was calling it a career.

https://michiganstate.rivals.com/news/paulette-martis-celebrates-48-years-of-service-at-michigan-state-university

by **Floyd Robertson** Tue 18 Jul 2023 - 13:19

Anybody else here getting data verification emails from the MSU Almuni Office? Seems like there'd be a better way than asking me to call an 866 number unless they want to verify and hit people up for cash in one call.

by **The Pantry** Tue 18 Jul 2023 - 15:56

Floyd Robertson wrote:Anybody else here getting data verification emails from the MSU Almuni Office? Seems like there'd be a better way than asking me to call an 866 number unless they want to verify and hit people up for cash in one call.

Coincidence?

Major bridge on MSU campus undergoes makeover

$48M? Would like to be owner of the contracted company.

by gomersbro Tue 18 Jul 2023 - 16:06

The Pantry wrote:
Floyd Robertson wrote:Anybody else here getting data verification emails from the MSU Almuni Office? Seems like there'd be a better way than asking me to call an 866 number unless they want to verify and hit people up for cash in one call.
Coincidence?

Major bridge on MSU campus undergoes makeover

$48M? Would like to be owner of the contracted company.

The sign from MSU they show in the video (0:16) says $44M. Maybe they say where the other $4M went in the video (mute for me), or it could be fabulous reporting by Fox47.

by **The Pantry** Tue 18 Jul 2023 - 16:46

gomersbro wrote:
The Pantry wrote:
Coincidence?

$48M? Would like to be owner of the contracted company.

The sign from MSU they show in the video (0:16) says $44M. Maybe they say where the other $4M went in the video (mute for me), or it could be fabulous reporting by Fox47.

Forget Fox47. Even $44M is stupid high for that project. $30M would be more reasonable...even with the short projected timeline, still high IMHO.

The engineering study & design has obviously already completed since construction has commenced. Whom did that? Is that part of the $44/48M number?

Whomever approves design/construction contracts for projects at MSU must be idiots, and/or getting paid.

by **MiamiSpartan** Tue 18 Jul 2023 - 18:31

Floyd Robertson wrote:Anybody else here getting data verification emails from the MSU Almuni Office? Seems like there'd be a better way than asking me to call an 866 number unless they want to verify and hit people up for cash in one call.

I got it today. Is it legit? I thought it was a scam. It's from noreply@publishingcomcepts.com or something like that. And asking me to call an 866 number to verify personal data is also usually a red flag.

by **Floyd Robertson** Tue 18 Jul 2023 - 18:37

MiamiSpartan wrote:
Floyd Robertson wrote:Anybody else here getting data verification emails from the MSU Almuni Office? Seems like there'd be a better way than asking me to call an 866 number unless they want to verify and hit people up for cash in one call.

I got it today. Is it legit? I thought it was a scam. It's from noreply@publishingcomcepts.com or something like that. And asking me to call an 866 number to verify personal data is also usually a red flag.

Yeah, if they want me to verify something it better be at a link like alumni.michiganstate.edu

by **Turtleneck** Sat 29 Jul 2023 - 10:47

Returning To Your Roots With Michigan State’s Ashton Henderson

https://athleticdirectoru.com/video/returning-to-your-roots-michigan-state-henderson/

by **Trapper Gus** Wed 2 Aug 2023 - 7:52

https://www.bridgemi.com/talent-education/michigan-state-university-cancels-classes-anniversary-shooting

by **Trapper Gus** Sun 6 Aug 2023 - 11:40

https://www.wilx.com/2023/08/05/michigan-state-university-awarded-529m-nuclear-research/

by **Turtleneck** Sun 6 Aug 2023 - 19:49

Trapper Gus wrote:https://www.wilx.com/2023/08/05/michigan-state-university-awarded-529m-nuclear-research/

DWags, please please do not touch any buttons. Thanks.

by **The Pantry** Sun 6 Aug 2023 - 20:01

Trapper Gus wrote:https://www.wilx.com/2023/08/05/michigan-state-university-awarded-529m-nuclear-research/

That's a helluva lot a cash.

by **DWags** Sun 6 Aug 2023 - 20:44

Turtleneck wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:https://www.wilx.com/2023/08/05/michigan-state-university-awarded-529m-nuclear-research/

DWags, please please do not touch any buttons. Thanks.

I’m just touching everything I see.

by aualum06 Sun 6 Aug 2023 - 21:09

DWags wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:

DWags, please please do not touch any buttons. Thanks.

I’m just touching everything I see.

No reason to be Travis

by **Turtleneck** Sun 6 Aug 2023 - 21:53

DWags wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:

DWags, please please do not touch any buttons. Thanks.

I’m just touching everything I see.

by Rick Saunders Mon 7 Aug 2023 - 10:18

DWags wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:

DWags, please please do not touch any buttons. Thanks.

I’m just touching everything I see.

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by **tGreenWay** Mon 7 Aug 2023 - 12:16

aualum06 wrote:
DWags wrote:

I’m just touching everything I see.

No reason to be Travis

by **Trapper Gus** Mon 7 Aug 2023 - 13:04

The Pantry wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:https://www.wilx.com/2023/08/05/michigan-state-university-awarded-529m-nuclear-research/
That's a helluva lot a cash.

As noted, MSU is one of the top two schools in the US for this type of physics, MSU & MIT trade the top spot back and forth.

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