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Post by Floyd Robertson 2016-07-28, 14:07

LooseGoose wrote:Never any media bias - well maybe just a little.   All the time. - Page 4 1966794946 Never any media bias - well maybe just a little.   All the time. - Page 4 1966794946

The New York Times in 2012 RE: Mitt Romney
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The New York Times in 2016 RE: Donald Trump
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Where's that guy who compared Milania's speech with Michelle's when you need him to fact check.
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Post by Guest 2016-07-28, 18:51

Sean Spicer ‏@seanspicer 34m34 minutes ago
3 networks have given @thedemocrats 40% more air time: @demconvention 13hrs 21 min to @GOPconvention 9 hrs 47 mins
https://www.gop.com/unequal-convention-coverage-by-networks/ …
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Post by DWags 2016-07-28, 18:56

LooseGoose wrote:Never any media bias - well maybe just a little.   All the time. - Page 4 1966794946 Never any media bias - well maybe just a little.   All the time. - Page 4 1966794946

The New York Times in 2012 RE: Mitt Romney
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The New York Times in 2016 RE: Donald Trump
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Are both of those opinions or is just the first?  I believe they're both from the opinion section?  Correct?
They, hopefully we're both labeled as such. If not guys like the dude might not understand that
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Post by The_Dude 2016-07-29, 13:28

CNN Never any media bias - well maybe just a little.   All the time. - Page 4 502811600

http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/29/cnns-wolf-blitzer-dances-drinks-wine-after-hillarys-speech-video/
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Post by Guest 2016-07-29, 15:15

Does Politico cover ol' Bill dozing off during his wife's speech?   Nope.

But they make sure to cover the "conservative" media mocking poor Bill.

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Post by DWags 2016-07-29, 15:30

CNN Lib
Fox Con
Det news Con
Det Freep Lib


Is this really what we're trying to prove?

Newspapers have always slanted things their way, ever since William Randolph Hurst wanted to start a war with Spain, hell, even before that.

Is this really what we're talking about?
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Post by DWags 2016-07-29, 15:36

Detroit Freep and News.

Michigan or MSU?

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Post by DWags 2016-07-29, 15:37

Sports Illustrated:

East Coast bias?

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Post by Guest 2016-07-29, 15:52

DWags wrote:CNN Lib
Fox Con
Det news Con
Det Freep Lib


Is this really what we're trying to prove?

Newspapers have always slanted things their way, ever since William Randolph Hurst wanted to start a war with Spain, hell, even before that.

Is this really what we're talking about?

I love you Wags therefore I must argue with you so we can have hot makeup sex.
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Post by DWags 2016-07-29, 16:04

LooseGoose wrote:
DWags wrote:CNN Lib
Fox Con
Det news Con
Det Freep Lib


Is this really what we're trying to prove?

Newspapers have always slanted things their way, ever since William Randolph Hurst wanted to start a war with Spain, hell, even before that.

Is this really what we're talking about?

I love you Wags therefore I must argue with you so we can have hot makeup sex.

It's just that I know there are huge bias's in all media. It comes from the talent certainly, but it also comes from the suits and editorial boards within the organization. They gear their news and editorials to an audience who will click, watch or buy their stuff.

We see it down here constantly with the blue wall. It's a fact. And yes, owners are very complicit in the product they put out. There is always a purpose.


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Post by AnomanderRake 2016-07-29, 16:52

http://www.businessinsider.com/these-6-corporations-control-90-of-the-media-in-america-2012-6

Good read if you're interested in learning more about the 6 mega corps that own almost all media we consume.
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Post by Floyd Robertson 2016-07-30, 18:14

Interesting little 10 minute documentary from back in February how the media shaped the downfall of Howard Dean.

The Dean Scream: What Really Happened
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Post by Guest 2016-07-31, 08:39

Condemning Republicans, Cheering Democrats: The Media’s Biased 2016 Convention Coverage

With both the Republican and Democratic conventions now concluded, it’s time to judge the news media on how fairly they covered the two parties. Media Research Center analysts looked at various aspects of coverage, all of which demonstrate that journalists obviously favored the Democratic gathering.

By a 12-to-1 margin, journalists spent far more time deriding the Republican convention for its negativity, even as their reactions to Democratic speakers were consistently positive and often enthusiastic. Cable news had its own unique biases: MSNBC carved out time on each night of the GOP convention for interviews with top Democratic officials, but — despite promises to the contrary — aired no such interviews with Republicans during the Democratic convention. Meanwhile, CNN devoted more than an hour of airtime during the Democratic convention to airing 18 party-produced videos, but only included three such videos during the GOP convention.
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Post by GRR Spartan 2016-07-31, 09:17

I'm not a Roman Catholic.

Can anyone tell me the name of the saint for perpetual victims.  

This is the same whine I have read about since 1968 when Nixon won The White House.  If the GOP is always the victim of media how the hell have they won the Presidential elections in 1968, 1972, 1980, 1984, 1988, 2000 and 2004?

Thats winning a lot Presidential elections while the Democrats who allegedly get all the benefit of the doubt from the mean ole media have only won 5 going into 2016.

The GOP nominated a trainwreck candidate.  In a year where it was apparent early on HRC, a very well known, unlikeable candidate with high negatives (even before the server/email mess) the GOP bypassed multiple candidates and nominates a person with zero experience as a political candidate and with zero military experience.

Right now, if things don't get any worse for HRC the biggest decisions her campaign has to make is what video of Trump insulting who will be the next campaign ad.  Yet Trump can't/won't keep his mouth shut as witnessed in the events of the last few days.  Most candidates know you don't speak publicly about hitting people who are critical of you and don't go out of your way to insult the mother of a fallen veteranbut Trump proved again he isn't most candidates.
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Post by Turtleneck 2016-07-31, 13:19

LooseGoose wrote:Never any media bias - well maybe just a little.   All the time. - Page 4 1966794946 Never any media bias - well maybe just a little.   All the time. - Page 4 1966794946

The New York Times in 2012 RE: Mitt Romney
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The New York Times in 2016 RE: Donald Trump
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What are you trying to prove, Loose? Your insinuation that this implies bias is wrong.

1) Arguing that Russia is not America's #1 geopolitical threat does constitute admiration for Russia. To imply otherwise - that it is somehow contradictory to argue Russia is not America's #1 geopolitical threat is synonymous with admiration - requires quite a leap of imagination. If you argued that UM was not MSU's #1 threat in the B10 East, would it then be contradictory for you to criticize The Dude when he shows his admiration for Harbaugh? The obvious answer is no.

2) The 2012 editorial is consistent with the White House's 2010 National Security Strategy. At that time, most of the world was hoping Russia would be a cooperative partner in solving global issues, and the 2010 Security Strategy describes Russia as much and downplays a resurgent Russian threat. The 2015 National Security Strategy, which was the only one issued after 2010, describes Russia as a competitor rather than a cooperative partner. So the tuned changed inside the White House and around the world on Russia's place in world affair.

3) Either way, it makes no sense to find a contradiction in criticizing Romney for saying Russia is America's #1 geopolitical threat while criticizing Trump for admiring Putin. But I guess you are desperate to make a point.
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Post by Turtleneck 2016-07-31, 13:34

LooseGoose wrote:Condemning Republicans, Cheering Democrats: The Media’s Biased 2016 Convention Coverage

With both the Republican and Democratic conventions now concluded, it’s time to judge the news media on how fairly they covered the two parties. Media Research Center analysts looked at various aspects of coverage, all of which demonstrate that journalists obviously favored the Democratic gathering.

By a 12-to-1 margin, journalists spent far more time deriding the Republican convention for its negativity, even as their reactions to Democratic speakers were consistently positive and often enthusiastic. Cable news had its own unique biases: MSNBC carved out time on each night of the GOP convention for interviews with top Democratic officials, but — despite promises to the contrary — aired no such interviews with Republicans during the Democratic convention. Meanwhile, CNN devoted more than an hour of airtime during the Democratic convention to airing 18 party-produced videos, but only included three such videos during the GOP convention.

Evidence from peer reviewed academic studies ignored in favor of evidence of liberal bias delivered by conservative sources. For your next trick are you going to post a preview of the upcoming MSU football season written by a MGoBlog contributor?
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos 2016-07-31, 14:22

TURTLE!!!! What the fuck my man??? I've made multiple threads for you these last couple of weeks. You should see the "hey turtleneck I'm in Cincinnati" one. That one was real good for you :)
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Post by Guest 2016-07-31, 16:23

Turtle is back!! I pissed him off more than Travis - I win!!!
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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That 2016-07-31, 17:32

He just owned you goose. I missed you TN.
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Post by The_Dude 2016-07-31, 22:30

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:He just owned you goose. I missed you TN.

How so?
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Post by GRR Spartan 2016-07-31, 23:52

The_Dude wrote:
Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:He just owned you goose. I missed you TN.

How so?

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Post by The_Dude 2016-08-02, 12:58

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Post by Guest 2016-08-04, 10:30

Media Quiet About Dismissed Charges Against Planned Parenthood Whistleblowers

When Daleiden was indicted on political charges, here’s how the New York Times covered that story. On page 1. Above the fold. The first column. “Texas Charges Abortion Foes in Video Case,” the headline read. The 1,213-word story was written by Manny Fernandez, with Erik Eckholm contributing reporting.

The next day the New York Times editorial board weighed in. “Vindication for Planned Parenthood,” was their verdict.

That same day, Jackie Calmes wrote a “news” story headlined “Indictment Deals Another Blow to G.O.P. Campaign Against Planned Parenthood.” It was breathless right out of the gate:

On July 26, the judge cleared Daleiden of all charges. The New York Times did not put its story on page one. It did merit some 800 (rather boring) words on page 18. No editorial was published about Daleiden’s “vindication.” No concern trolling about blows to the Planned Parenthood narrative. No puffy profiles of the attorneys who fought the political indictments.

Okay, so what about the Washington Post?

According to Lexis-Nexis, the first two stories were posts about the indictment. The next day’s abortion-friendly story by Danielle Paquette was on page A3. The indictments were given prominent play in the Post’s Daily 202 newsletter. Paquette wrote a detailed “explainer” of the charges. The editorial pages featured Paul Waldman’s “Once again, Republicans go too far on abortion” column. Danielle Paquette and Sandhya Somashekhar teamed up for “Anti-Planned Parenthood filmmakers to turn themselves in.” When Merritt turned herself in, Somashekhar wrote a story on that. When Daleiden turned himself in the next day, Somashekhar wrote that up, too. Paquette wrote up a Planned Parenthood-friendly piece that mentioned the indictments a few days later.

And when the charges were dropped?

Well, when the first charge was dropped, the Washington Post put it in national news round-up provided by the Associated Press. “CALIFORNIA: Man charged with 3 weapons violations; TEXAS: Charge against activist dropped; more pending.” Seven sentences explaining the dropped charges followed.

When the final charge was dropped, the Post put it in the same national news round-up. “TEXAS: Last charges dropped in antiabortion sting.” A whopping 10 sentences followed. Whereas the original indictments had been tweeted out to the Washington Post’s 7 million followers, there was no mention of the charges being dropped.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2016-08-04, 10:35

bump.. this thread needs to stay at the top.

#MakeAmericaWhiteAgain
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos 2016-08-04, 10:47

LooseGoose wrote:Media Quiet About Dismissed Charges Against Planned Parenthood Whistleblowers

When Daleiden was indicted on political charges, here’s how the New York Times covered that story. On page 1. Above the fold. The first column. “Texas Charges Abortion Foes in Video Case,” the headline read. The 1,213-word story was written by Manny Fernandez, with Erik Eckholm contributing reporting.

The next day the New York Times editorial board weighed in. “Vindication for Planned Parenthood,” was their verdict.

That same day, Jackie Calmes wrote a “news” story headlined “Indictment Deals Another Blow to G.O.P. Campaign Against Planned Parenthood.” It was breathless right out of the gate:

On July 26, the judge cleared Daleiden of all charges. The New York Times did not put its story on page one. It did merit some 800 (rather boring) words on page 18. No editorial was published about Daleiden’s “vindication.” No concern trolling about blows to the Planned Parenthood narrative. No puffy profiles of the attorneys who fought the political indictments.

Okay, so what about the Washington Post?

According to Lexis-Nexis, the first two stories were posts about the indictment. The next day’s abortion-friendly story by Danielle Paquette was on page A3. The indictments were given prominent play in the Post’s Daily 202 newsletter. Paquette wrote a detailed “explainer” of the charges. The editorial pages featured Paul Waldman’s “Once again, Republicans go too far on abortion” column. Danielle Paquette and Sandhya Somashekhar teamed up for “Anti-Planned Parenthood filmmakers to turn themselves in.” When Merritt turned herself in, Somashekhar wrote a story on that. When Daleiden turned himself in the next day, Somashekhar wrote that up, too. Paquette wrote up a Planned Parenthood-friendly piece that mentioned the indictments a few days later.

And when the charges were dropped?

Well, when the first charge was dropped, the Washington Post put it in national news round-up provided by the Associated Press. “CALIFORNIA: Man charged with 3 weapons violations; TEXAS: Charge against activist dropped; more pending.” Seven sentences explaining the dropped charges followed.

When the final charge was dropped, the Post put it in the same national news round-up. “TEXAS: Last charges dropped in antiabortion sting.” A whopping 10 sentences followed. Whereas the original indictments had been tweeted out to the Washington Post’s 7 million followers, there was no mention of the charges being dropped.

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Post by Guest 2016-08-04, 20:34

Still waiting for factual counter-arguments.

Not going to happen because the media bias is ongoing and they really don't even hide it.

MSNBC Baffled by ‘Mystery’ of ‘Coincidental’ Iran Payoff

On her MSNBC show on Thursday, host Andrea Mitchell bemoaned the Obama administration’s “unforced error” in sending Iran $400 million at the exact same time American hostages were released from Tehran in January. She was puzzled by the decision: “...they never explained that this other money was going – the $400 million. It’s unrelated to the nuclear deal. Why do it on the same day?”

Washington Post political correspondent Anne Gearan was equally baffled: “It's a mystery why, exactly. They didn't need to do it that day, there was nothing in particular forcing their hand that we know of to do it that day.” She avoided the possibility of the White House paying the money as ransom for the hostages.

While Mitchell and her guests wrung their hands over the “impression” and “optics” of the obvious ransom payment, on FNC’s Special Report Wednesday night, columnist Charles Krauthammer cut right to the substance of the scandal:

...of course the Justice Department objected; it was illegal. They had to print the money here, ship it over to Switzerland, turn it into Swiss francs and Euros and ship it over to Iran. If a private company had done this, this is called money laundering. The CEO would be in jail right now
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Post by Guest 2016-08-04, 20:36

NBC: Just Imagine How Bad Hillary Would be Doing if We Actually Covered Her Scandals!

After hyping “campaign chaos” for Donald Trump on Thursday’s NBC Today, co-host Savannah Guthrie turned to Meet the Press moderator Chuck Todd and freely admitted the glaring media double standard in covering the presidential race: “And what irritates so many Republicans is that if it were any other candidate running against Hillary Clinton, this would be a pretty rough patch for Hillary Clinton given some of the items in the news.”

Todd agreed: “An incredibly rough patch.” He proceeded to list all of the Clinton controversies and scandals that the press have ignored: “Whether it's the current state of the economy, anemic growth. Whether it is her insistence again that somehow [FBI] Director Comey let her off the hook on e-mails when – and she sort of reinterpreted what Comey said in a way that was misleading. Throw in the discomfort for many on this Iran deal.... never mind we just started air strikes in Libya because ISIS is there.”

He concluded: “The point is, in the last five days this could easily have been Hillary Clinton's worst five days post-convention and instead the exact opposite and it's all due to Donald Trump's lack of self discipline.”

Well that...or the media choosing to go wall to wall on his shit and virtually ignoring her shit.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos 2016-08-04, 20:37

LooseGoose wrote:Still waiting for factual counter-arguments.

Not going to happen because the media bias is ongoing and they really don't even hide it.

MSNBC Baffled by ‘Mystery’ of ‘Coincidental’ Iran Payoff

On her MSNBC show on Thursday, host Andrea Mitchell bemoaned the Obama administration’s “unforced error” in sending Iran $400 million at the exact same time American hostages were released from Tehran in January. She was puzzled by the decision: “...they never explained that this other money was going – the $400 million. It’s unrelated to the nuclear deal. Why do it on the same day?”

Washington Post political correspondent Anne Gearan was equally baffled: “It's a mystery why, exactly. They didn't need to do it that day, there was nothing in particular forcing their hand that we know of to do it that day.” She avoided the possibility of the White House paying the money as ransom for the hostages.

While Mitchell and her guests wrung their hands over the “impression” and “optics” of the obvious ransom payment, on FNC’s Special Report Wednesday night, columnist Charles Krauthammer cut right to the substance of the scandal:

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Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:Still waiting for factual counter-arguments.

Not going to happen because the media bias is ongoing and they really don't even hide it.

MSNBC Baffled by ‘Mystery’ of ‘Coincidental’ Iran Payoff






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We're all so angry!!!!!!!

Why on earth would you be angry when your team benefits from the bias?
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos 2016-08-04, 22:08

LooseGoose wrote:
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We're all so angry!!!!!!!

Why on earth would you be angry when your team benefits from the bias?

Yes! All of the bias is on the liberal side! That's why me and my 15,000 friends are so angry! Us conservatives would never ever pick a picture from a sports rally and try to pass it off as support for our side! Never! And definitely not yesterday!
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Post by Guest 2016-08-11, 21:28

I've heard on and on this afternoon about Trump supposedly trying American citizens in Guantanamo Bay.   It's amazing how upset the press seems to be about that.

I'm pretty sure we've already heard more about that than we've heard for the past years about Obama killing American citizens with drones without the benefit of ANY trial.

Which would you choose?   To be erased by drone or tried on an American military base?   Thought so.    

Where's the press braying over the Obama killings?
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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That 2016-08-11, 21:44

Still can't believe you older folks still buy into this game.
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! 2016-08-11, 23:46

LooseGoose wrote:I've heard on and on this afternoon about Trump supposedly trying American citizens in Guantanamo Bay.   It's amazing how upset the press seems to be about that.

I'm pretty sure we've already heard more about that than we've heard for the past years about Obama killing American citizens with drones without the benefit of ANY trial.

Which would you choose?   To be erased by drone or tried on an American military base?   Thought so.    

Where's the press braying over the Obama killings?

Wut?
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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That 2016-08-11, 23:53

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:I've heard on and on this afternoon about Trump supposedly trying American citizens in Guantanamo Bay.   It's amazing how upset the press seems to be about that.

I'm pretty sure we've already heard more about that than we've heard for the past years about Obama killing American citizens with drones without the benefit of ANY trial.

Which would you choose?   To be erased by drone or tried on an American military base?   Thought so.    

Where's the press braying over the Obama killings?

Wut?

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I just read his post for a second time. Wow.  Never any media bias - well maybe just a little.   All the time. - Page 4 1431518612
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! 2016-08-12, 08:18

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:
Watch Out Pylon! wrote:

Wut?

Never any media bias - well maybe just a little.   All the time. - Page 4 502811600

I just read his post for a second time. Wow.  Never any media bias - well maybe just a little.   All the time. - Page 4 1431518612

Since no links were provided I did some quick research. No clue what he's saying about Guantanimo Bay. CNN, Fox, ABC, BBC, and even MSNBC doesn't have shit. And as far as I can tell he's talking about a drone strike in Yemen in 2009. So uh... yeah.  Never any media bias - well maybe just a little.   All the time. - Page 4 2599972566
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Post by Guest 2016-08-12, 11:21

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:
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Never any media bias - well maybe just a little.   All the time. - Page 4 502811600

I just read his post for a second time. Wow.  Never any media bias - well maybe just a little.   All the time. - Page 4 1431518612

Since no links were provided I did some quick research. No clue what he's saying about Guantanimo Bay. CNN, Fox, ABC, BBC, and even MSNBC doesn't have shit. And as far as I can tell he's talking about a drone strike in Yemen in 2009. So uh... yeah.  Never any media bias - well maybe just a little.   All the time. - Page 4 2599972566

Yes that was pretty hard to find coverage....lol...

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A strike? Again pretty hard to use google....the number is higher than 8 by now and rising. No trials, just killed.

3 were "not" targets...so that excuses the one that was?
Four U.S. citizens killed in Obama drone strikes, but 3 were not intended targets

Mother Jones asks?
The American Teen Whose Death-by-Drone Obama Won't Explain

Note that the Obama administration has asserted a right to kill you with a drone without a trial. Where's the fucking outrage over that? And yes I'd be outraged if ANY administration claimed that extra judicial power.
Who are the 8 Americans Killed by Drone Strikes?

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Post by Guest 2016-08-12, 11:23

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:
Watch Out Pylon! wrote:

Wut?

Never any media bias - well maybe just a little.   All the time. - Page 4 502811600

I just read his post for a second time. Wow.  Never any media bias - well maybe just a little.   All the time. - Page 4 1431518612

You need to pay better attention to the news before calling me a whacko....or do you support the government being able to execute you without a trial? And of course the Trump thing only got 39,000 "news" hits in one day so that was pretty obscure.
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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That 2016-08-12, 11:24

LooseGoose wrote:
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Never any media bias - well maybe just a little.   All the time. - Page 4 502811600

I just read his post for a second time. Wow.  Never any media bias - well maybe just a little.   All the time. - Page 4 1431518612

You need to pay better attention to the news before calling me a whacko....or do you support the government being able to execute you without a trial? And of course the Trump thing only got 39,000 "news" hits in one day so that was pretty obscure.

I don't watch the mainstream news or much news at all goose. You should try it - maybe you won't be such a sheep.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2016-08-12, 11:29

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LooseGoose wrote:

You need to pay better attention to the news before calling me a whacko....or do you support the government being able to execute you without a trial?    And of course the Trump thing only got 39,000 "news" hits in one day so that was pretty obscure.

I don't watch the mainstream news or much news at all goose. You should try it - maybe you won't be such a sheep.
someone like Goose is the only reason the mainstream media exists.. they play to the lowest common denominator.

and there's Goose - an angry old white guy living out in the country, clutching his guns and bible.. scared and afraid..  screaming at the TV.. unknowingly driving up their ratings.. 

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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That 2016-08-12, 11:31

LooseGoose wrote:
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Never any media bias - well maybe just a little.   All the time. - Page 4 502811600

I just read his post for a second time. Wow.  Never any media bias - well maybe just a little.   All the time. - Page 4 1431518612

You need to pay better attention to the news before calling me a whacko....or do you support the government being able to execute you without a trial? And of course the Trump thing only got 39,000 "news" hits in one day so that was pretty obscure.

and since when did you give a fuck about this? Or does this exclude cops doing it?
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